From mperry@basin.com Mon Nov 23 17:17:42 1998 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] WordPerfect 8 is coming and other notes Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:17:42 -0800 Message-ID: <199811231714.JAA08608@sj.znet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0421609578197197677==" --===============0421609578197197677== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I visited corel's web site and they will be offering the full version of Corel WordPerfect 8 for a low price of $50. This seems like a great deal and rounds out what I need to move off of NT. With applixware 4.4.1 reading adabas D files, using qddb to support a few smaller databases, SO 5 as a backup, and wordperfect 8, I think I can consider moving from NT and freeing up all that wasted disk space. As a matter of interest, one can attach to a adabas D database quite easily using applix 4.4.1. This means that one has a gui tool to build queries and other stuff against a complex data source. This is quite cool. Thanks to Rolf at suse for the web site. If you want to see how easy it is, drop me an email and I can send the url along. Now if I can find some manuals and howto's on the art of building simple to medium adabas databases, I am getting closer to whatever goal I want to reach. I know there is a mailing list for adabas D. The list first appeared primarily in German. Are there english posters to the list? Since I am talking applications, applix has released new filters for office97 on the errata portion of their website. If you are wanting to build small database applications and want a gui tool, consider qddb from hsdi. They are at www.hsdi.com/qddb. They provide all their database tools in rpm format. One other thing since I am kind of wandering here, is that filerunner makes a really nice file manager. It does ftp, nice management approaches, etc. I use tkdesk as my only application selector and it shines far beyond tkdesk's file manager. Filerunner also has a rather unusual configuration routine. This is one nice file manager which is simple and complex at the same time. A version exists on suse's 5.3 distro. I like compiling things though. Then I can get mad and irritated at make errors :-) -- Michael Perry mperry@basin.com ------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============0421609578197197677==-- From sandyseeds@iname.com Mon Nov 23 23:20:38 1998 From: sandyseeds@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WordPerfect 8 is coming and other notes Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:20:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3659EDC6.808DFBD5@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <199811231714.JAA08608@sj.znet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3549159578507791087==" --===============3549159578507791087== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Perry wrote: >=20 > I visited corel's web site and they will be offering the full version > of Corel WordPerfect 8 for a low price of $50. This seems like a great > deal and rounds out what I need to move off of NT. =20 Yep, and for those of us with less demanding needs, Corel will be releasing WordPerfect 8 For Linux in a FREE "personal edition." This is not a demo! You can read about it, and register for release information at: ht= tp://linux.corel.com/> andy --=20 Sandy Seeds 100% MS Free! - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============3549159578507791087==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Tue Nov 24 00:15:16 1998 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] WordPerfect 8 is coming and other notes Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 00:15:16 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199811231714.JAA08608@sj.znet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7535871200790525878==" --===============7535871200790525878== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 23-Nov-98 Michael Perry wrote: > > As a matter of interest, one can attach to a adabas D database quite > easily using applix 4.4.1. This means that one has a gui tool to build > queries and other stuff against a complex data source. This is quite > cool. Thanks to Rolf at suse for the web site. If you want to see how > easy it is, drop me an email and I can send the url along. Yes please! Better still, post it to the list! Best wishes, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 24-Nov-98 Time: 00:15:15 -------------------------------------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============7535871200790525878==-- From jayell@mcmail.com Tue Nov 24 19:52:55 1998 From: jayell@mcmail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WordPerfect 8 is coming and other notes Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:52:55 +0000 Message-ID: <365B0E97.A919C07C@mcmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6491705784190972011==" --===============6491705784190972011== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 23-Nov-98 Michael Perry wrote: > > As a matter of interest, one can attach to a adabas D database quite > easily using applix 4.4.1. This means that one has a gui tool to build > queries and other stuff against a complex data source. This is quite > cool. Thanks to Rolf at suse for the web site. If you want to see how > easy it is, drop me an email and I can send the url along. Is adabas D easy to use for simple database needs. I have a couple of databas= es setup in access which I would like to switch to a linux based system. I can u= se Star Office but it is a bit clunky (in version 4.0 at least). These are club membership databases and require nothing complicated being little more than computerised card indexes. I saw a reference to qddb but suspect this is likely to be a command line interface whereas I, and my wife who looks after the club membership, would prefer a gui. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============6491705784190972011==-- From mperry@basin.com Sat Nov 28 00:12:07 1998 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WordPerfect 8 is coming and other notes Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:12:07 -0800 Message-ID: <19981127161207.A375@basin.com> In-Reply-To: <365B0E97.A919C07C@mcmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9131133057822243577==" --===============9131133057822243577== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thus spake John Lewis (jayell@mcmail.com):=20 >=20 > On 23-Nov-98 Michael Perry wrote: > > > > As a matter of interest, one can attach to a adabas D database quite > > easily using applix 4.4.1. This means that one has a gui tool to build > > queries and other stuff against a complex data source. This is quite > > cool. Thanks to Rolf at suse for the web site. If you want to see how > > easy it is, drop me an email and I can send the url along. >=20 > Is adabas D easy to use for simple database needs. I have a couple of datab= ases > setup in access which I would like to switch to a linux based system. I can= use > Star Office but it is a bit clunky (in version 4.0 at least). These are club > membership databases and require nothing complicated being little more than > computerised card indexes. >=20 > I saw a reference to qddb but suspect this is likely to be a command line > interface whereas I, and my wife who looks after the club membership, would > prefer a gui. Hi- adabas D is not easy to use by any stretch of the imagination. The worst part is that there is no real written documentation for it and one has to glean setup and other stuff from web stuff. I am still trying to figure out some of the database creation stuff. What I do is create a database using adabas D personal version, launch xuser or tkuser to edit and create sql commands, search and query, try again, etc. I have programmed in access for quite some time so I am wanting to switch a live and hot database to adabas D but this is difficult. As far as qddb, it is not a command line interace. It ships with a gui tool. What you do is create a database using a command line tool, edit a file with database fields in it, and then call up the gui tool to add, modify, or delete records. For small database projects, qddb offers an easy to use tcl/tk interface which can be changed quite easily. OTOH, adabas D has a lot of power; but its hard to find a road to that power without adequate written docs. It would be nice to get some of the SuSE brainpower on a adabas D english mailing list if that were possible. Perhaps we could start with the basics as a tutorial assignment. I would like to propose that SuSE consider the following: 1) create a adabas-e mailing list 2) provide basic database creation tools to the members 3) put together basic tools and techniques that SuSE folks may know I have used informix and it was quite easy to get to the stage of actually building a database. adabas D has some pages of configuration options. I dont understand the last three which refer to either raw or file options whatsoever. I just set them to file since I have no idea what they mean. So, my answer is that adabas D has lots to offer but one needs to be able to either attend training or start from some common point and learn the basics. Thats how I learned access. A mailing list would help each person reach some basic starting point with regard to database creation and use. I would install the qddb from the pay section and play around a bit and see if it does what you want. Also get the usersguide from www.hsdi.com/qddb. Sorry about the meandering direction that this response has taken. I was just considering these points with trying to export a rather complicated access database the other day --=20 Michael Perry mperry@basin.com ------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============9131133057822243577==--