From steve@millsphoto.com Fri Sep 11 13:12:06 1998 From: steve@millsphoto.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Strangely quiet Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:12:06 -0700 Message-ID: <98091106192106.00274@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5882292420368449085==" --===============5882292420368449085== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been listening to this group about 2 weeks now.=20 A few rookies ( I hate that newbies word) such as myself have asked the usual questions and had great responses. I've watched higher level interchanges between some obviously very experienced folk.=20 Something is missing. This is a new release, this 5.3. There seem to be no major problems with it. = Am I right? Other than something about sound and a syntax error, I haven't heard of a really difficult problem. We can even talk tomatoes, there's so much roo= m. My hat is off to the SuSE development team. Even THIS Windows pup can install 5.3. The Linux community needs to see what a really great distribution looks like. I can hardly wait to see what happens next. Danke schoen. -- Steve Mills steve(a)millsphoto.com http://www.millsphoto.com> Great wallpapers live here. =20 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============5882292420368449085==-- From mantel@suse.de Fri Sep 11 14:24:44 1998 From: mantel@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Strangely quiet Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:24:44 +0200 Message-ID: <19980911162444.C4030@suse.de> In-Reply-To: <98091106192106.00274@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8514993388704055460==" --===============8514993388704055460== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, Sep 11, Steve Mills wrote: > I've been listening to this group about 2 weeks now.=20 >=20 > A few rookies ( I hate that newbies word) such as myself have asked the usu= al > questions and had great responses. I've watched higher level interchanges > between some obviously very experienced folk.=20 >=20 > Something is missing. ;-) > This is a new release, this 5.3. There seem to be no major problems with it= . Am > I right? Other than something about sound and a syntax error, I haven't hea= rd > of a really difficult problem. We can even talk tomatoes, there's so much r= oom. Well, there IS one major bug: When doing an installation in English language, YaST will crash on certain partition layouts. But this bug has been fixed and replacement CD-ROMs will leave the factory on monday.=20 Besides of that we just have the "usual" problems that will always exist (I'm still investigating the PCMCIA problems with some hardware). Judging from the support here in Germany, there really doesn't seem to exist some killer bug. I think the only way to assure quality is automation of the production process. We have invested very much time on our autobuild system that is capable of creating the whole distribution with (almost) one single command. This way we can avoid most of the human factor that is responsible for many errors like typos and so on.=20 > My hat is off to the SuSE development team. Even THIS Windows pup can insta= ll > 5.3. The Linux community needs to see what a really great distribution looks > like. I can hardly wait to see what happens next. >=20 > Danke schoen. Bitte sehr ;-) > Steve Mills steve(a)millsphoto.com -o) Hubert Mantel /\\ _\_v - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============8514993388704055460==-- From phil@ktuu.com Fri Sep 11 14:38:06 1998 From: phil@ktuu.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Strangely quiet Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:38:06 -0800 Message-ID: <35F935CE.86FBE582@ktuu.com> In-Reply-To: <98091106192106.00274@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5577451033635613877==" --===============5577451033635613877== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And even I, least among the humble, have finally received 5.3: expect more noise. phil Steve Mills wrote: >=20 > I've been listening to this group about 2 weeks now. >=20 > A few rookies ( I hate that newbies word) such as myself have asked the usu= al > questions and had great responses. I've watched higher level interchanges > between some obviously very experienced folk. >=20 > Something is missing. >=20 > This is a new release, this 5.3. There seem to be no major problems with it= . Am > I right? Other than something about sound and a syntax error, I haven't hea= rd > of a really difficult problem. We can even talk tomatoes, there's so much r= oom. >=20 > My hat is off to the SuSE development team. Even THIS Windows pup can insta= ll > 5.3. The Linux community needs to see what a really great distribution looks > like. I can hardly wait to see what happens next. >=20 > Danke schoen. >=20 > -- > Steve Mills steve(a)millsphoto.com > http://www.millsphoto.com> > Great wallpapers live here. >=20 > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============5577451033635613877==-- From darreld@mail.his.com Fri Sep 11 14:47:34 1998 From: darreld@mail.his.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Strangely quiet Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:47:34 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <98091106192106.00274@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1689338206852135457==" --===============1689338206852135457== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree, it has been quiet. I am a Suse newbie although I've been using linux for a while (redhat, slackware) and, to be honest, when I first installed Suse (5.3). I really did not like it; it was different from the distro's I know. After having gotten Informix SE/ESQLC working (the reason I chose Suse) and DBD::Informix. I must say I am starting to really warm to it. It is a very good distribution, and I can't tell you how good it is to see quick responses from the Suse development team on this mailing list. Mind you, I still have some issues that drive me crazy; I still can't build WindowMaker (even after a reinstall and checking the wraster.h situation) or BitchX (missing libnsl) but, overall, I think I'll stay with this distribution and recommend it to others.=20 Keep up the good work. -darrel On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Steve Mills wrote: >=20 > I've been listening to this group about 2 weeks now.=20 >=20 > A few rookies ( I hate that newbies word) such as myself have asked the usu= al > questions and had great responses. I've watched higher level interchanges > between some obviously very experienced folk.=20 >=20 > Something is missing. >=20 > This is a new release, this 5.3. There seem to be no major problems with it= . Am > I right? Other than something about sound and a syntax error, I haven't hea= rd > of a really difficult problem. We can even talk tomatoes, there's so much r= oom. >=20 > My hat is off to the SuSE development team. Even THIS Windows pup can insta= ll > 5.3. The Linux community needs to see what a really great distribution looks > like. I can hardly wait to see what happens next. >=20 > Danke schoen. >=20 >=20 > -- > Steve Mills steve(a)millsphoto.com > http://www.millsphoto.com> > Great wallpapers live here. > =20 > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Darrel Davis darreld(a)his.com darreld(a)hotmail.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============1689338206852135457==-- From steve@millsphoto.com Fri Sep 11 15:20:19 1998 From: steve@millsphoto.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: Strangely quiet Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:20:19 -0700 Message-ID: <98091108222100.00438@studio> In-Reply-To: <19980911162444.C4030@suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7096892462741974417==" --===============7096892462741974417== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Hubert Mantel wrote: >Well, there IS one major bug: When doing an installation in English >language, YaST will crash on certain partition layouts. But this bug has >been fixed and replacement CD-ROMs will leave the factory on monday.=20 > I have meant to ask, does this replacement disk also go to those who ordered early, such as myself? I did experience this problem and worked my way around it. -- Steve Mills steve(a)millsphoto.com http://www.millsphoto.com> Great Wallpapers Live Here. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============7096892462741974417==-- From misc.word.corp@pobox.com Fri Sep 11 16:40:15 1998 From: misc.word.corp@pobox.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Strangely quiet Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:40:15 -0400 Message-ID: <35F9526F.53B4F226@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4678588555012765646==" --===============4678588555012765646== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Mind you, I still have some issues that drive me crazy; I still can't > build WindowMaker (even after a reinstall and checking the wraster.h > situation) or BitchX (missing libnsl) but, overall, I think I'll > stay with this distribution and recommend it to others. I just installed WindowMaker 0.19.2 using the binary provided by Michael Lankton, and it installed perfectly. Yes, I also went thru the runaround with wraster.h and /wrlib. Sorry, can't find the e-mail with the link to the site. Best of luck. Believe me -- the current release of WM is _well worth checking out_. It's fabulous. -- Glenn -- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============4678588555012765646==-- From misc.word.corp@pobox.com Fri Sep 11 16:44:27 1998 From: misc.word.corp@pobox.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Question on the zshell. Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:44:27 -0400 Message-ID: <35F9536B.40366C41@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4861045357653389416==" --===============4861045357653389416== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not a problem, just a question. To all zshell-philes: What would you consider to be the best selling points of using the zshell as a login shell? What about the zshell appeals to you, in terms of command-line functions and the like? What ways have you found to configure the zshell to your liking? Just curious. I've been using bash for awhile, and wonder if I should make the switch. -- Glenn -- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============4861045357653389416==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Fri Sep 11 17:04:47 1998 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Strangely quiet Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:04:47 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3678045714998274193==" --===============3678045714998274193== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Darrel Davis wrote: > Mind you, I still have some issues that drive me crazy; I still can't > build WindowMaker (even after a reinstall and checking the wraster.h > situation) or BitchX (missing libnsl) but, overall, I think I'll > stay with this distribution and recommend it to others. Strange. I compile BitchX with no probs. I looked at the stuff for BX.. blaze# ldd /usr/local/bin/BitchX libncurses.so.3.0 => /lib/libncurses.so.3.0 libdl.so.1 => /lib/libdl.so.1 libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5 It doesn't even mention libnsl as a linking library as you see... As far as WM goes, I've seen 3 posts re compiling on S.u.S.E. 5.3 or more saying they can't build it. The two responses: Dan: get rid of old wraster.h Alfredo: delete any libwraster.a files on your system. Did you try both of these? both in prob in /usr/local/include and /usr/local/library respectively. -M One is most dishonest towards one's God; he is not _permitted_ to sin. mail: mjohnson(a)pop3.aebc.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============3678045714998274193==-- From lach@lach.net Fri Sep 11 23:29:21 1998 From: lach@lach.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: Strangely quiet Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 00:29:21 +0100 Message-ID: <35F9B251.43B26920@lach.net> In-Reply-To: <98091108222100.00438@studio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8491025995882543939==" --===============8491025995882543939== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve, Why wait for the disk, it's available from ftp.suse.com! Good Luck & nice website. Lach Steve Mills wrote: > On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Hubert Mantel wrote: > > >Well, there IS one major bug: When doing an installation in English > >language, YaST will crash on certain partition layouts. But this bug has > >been fixed and replacement CD-ROMs will leave the factory on monday. > > > > I have meant to ask, does this replacement disk also go to those who > ordered early, such as myself? I did experience this problem and worked > my way around it. > > -- Steve Mills steve(a)millsphoto.com > http://www.millsphoto.com> > Great Wallpapers Live Here. > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============8491025995882543939==--