From jlboers@usa.net Mon Feb 1 00:41:47 1999 From: jlboers@usa.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] 6.0 International (final) available on ftp Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:41:47 -0600 Message-ID: <000a01be4d7b$a7d01260$0401a8c0@jl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9207465188683236780==" --===============9207465188683236780== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Dear SuSuser, I am highly interested in getting and installing SuSE 6.0=20 (because the on board AIC 7890) and simply because the 6 should be much bette= r!=20 However I have SusE 5.2 and NT installed on the only HD I have.=20 Q1: What could be the safer way to Upgrade my SuSE 5.2 to SuSE 6.0 ? Today, I have just successeffully installed apache and the=20 Local Doc Support DataBase (I am so happy ! It is so fast ! so useful !)=20 but right now I did not find topics on how to answer how to pass=20 from 5.XX to newer versions.=20 Q2: Can I find SuSE 6 international version in France ! Thank you very much in advance for your help Naceur=20 --===============7375687446313570163==-- From grimmer@suse.de Thu Feb 4 13:28:33 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Network Printing Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:28:33 +0100 Message-ID:In-Reply-To: <36B9A61E.36DDFDA8@opentv.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2783772679525801558==" --===============2783772679525801558== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Scott Bronson wrote: > We have a Sun print server here. All NT machines can print to it, but > I'm unable to get my Linux machine to talk to it. Here's what I've > done: >=20 > My /etc/printcap: >=20 >=20 > lp|hpj: > :sd=3D/var/spool/lpd/dj: > :rm=3Dulysse.europe.opentv.com: > :rp=3Dprinter_2: > :lp=3D/dev/null: > :sh: >=20 > But, when I try to lpr, a small file, nothing happens except the > following /var/log/messages entry: > =20 > Feb 4 14:50:53 nikita lpd[837]: /dev/lp: No such file or directory Hm. lpd is looking for /dev/lp. Did you restart ldp after making the changes to /etc/printvap? > And the job just sits in the lpq until I lprm it. >=20 > Can someone tell me how to proceed? How do I make a network /dev/lp? You can use YaST to setup network printers. Did you try it this way? Bye, LenZ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2783772679525801558==-- From sbronson@opentv.com Thu Feb 4 13:52:30 1999 From: sbronson@opentv.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Network Printing Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:52:30 +0100 Message-ID: <36B9A61E.36DDFDA8@opentv.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0657744629123142388==" --===============0657744629123142388== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We have a Sun print server here. All NT machines can print to it, but I'm unable to get my Linux machine to talk to it. Here's what I've done: My /etc/printcap: lp|hpj: :sd=3D/var/spool/lpd/dj: :rm=3Dulysse.europe.opentv.com: :rp=3Dprinter_2: :lp=3D/dev/null: :sh: But, when I try to lpr, a small file, nothing happens except the following /var/log/messages entry: =20 Feb 4 14:50:53 nikita lpd[837]: /dev/lp: No such file or directory And the job just sits in the lpq until I lprm it. Can someone tell me how to proceed? How do I make a network /dev/lp? Thank you - Scott - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0657744629123142388==-- From zulfiqar@shaw.wave.ca Thu Feb 4 15:45:06 1999 From: zulfiqar@shaw.wave.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: Floppy disk and FSTAB Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 10:45:06 -0500 Message-ID: <36B9C082.F91C2016@shaw.wave.ca> In-Reply-To: <19990205161310.C598@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8128148435294581685==" --===============8128148435294581685== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I do put that line in and try to mount it by giving the command mount /f= loppy/ it says that only root can do that... However when I change the fstab entry to...... /dev/fd0 /floppy auto rw,noauto,user,exec= ,umask=3D000 and issue a mount /floppy/ command it says...... zuli(a)L31:/home/zuli > mount /floppy/ mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0, or too many mounted file systems And also when I issue just the mount command to see what is mounted it says..= ...... zuli(a)L31:/home/zuli > mount /dev/hda5 on / type ext2 (rw) proc on /proc type proc (rw) It's werid :-) I don't think the AUTO entry works. When I change it to ext2 or msdos, it wo= rks just fine > > You could also use something like > > /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto defaults 0 0 > > This way the file system is detected automatically. > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8128148435294581685==-- From zulfiqar@shaw.wave.ca Thu Feb 4 15:47:49 1999 From: zulfiqar@shaw.wave.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Floppy disk and FSTAB Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 10:47:49 -0500 Message-ID: <36B9C125.81B22F9B@shaw.wave.ca> In-Reply-To: <"H00006a0061b4645*/I=A/S=Crowe/OU=OPENMAIL1/OU=TSEA-E/O=SHELLEXPRO ABERDEEN/PRMD=SHELL/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/"@MHS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0471159073581623831==" --===============0471159073581623831== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes I did the same thing and put 2 lines in...... 1 for ext2 and one for msdos, but it's kinda cumbersome to have 2 mount points for 2 different formats of floppies. Is it possible to enter this into the fstab? /dev/fd0 /floppy ext2 defaults 0 0 /dev/fd0 /floppy msdos defaults 0 0 Both filesystems pointing to the same mount point? A.Crowe(a)OPENMAIL1.TSEA-E.sukepabe.simis.com wrote: > Hi, > > Add a line something like > > /dev/fd0 /floppy ext2 defaults 0 0 > > I tend to have two lines in my /etc/fstab - one for FAT FDs and one for > ext2 FDs. I dunno if it's absolutely necessary, but it works for me. > The line for FAT disks looks something like > > /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat defaults 0 0 > > Alan. > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0471159073581623831==-- From grimmer@suse.de Thu Feb 4 16:32:58 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Floppy disk and FSTAB Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:32:58 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36B9C125.81B22F9B@shaw.wave.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5274534202397471826==" --===============5274534202397471826== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: > Yes I did the same thing and put 2 lines in...... >=20 > 1 for ext2 and one for msdos, but it's kinda cumbersome to have 2 mount > points for 2 different formats of floppies. >=20 > Is it possible to enter this into the fstab? >=20 > /dev/fd0 /floppy ext2 defaults 0 0 > /dev/fd0 /floppy msdos defaults 0 0 >=20 > Both filesystems pointing to the same mount point? No, this does not work. I suspect, that mount will alway use ext2 as the filesystem to mount. You should change "defaults" to "rw,user,noauto", otherwise the system will try to mount the floppy on each reboot. Bye, LenZ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5274534202397471826==-- From rachel@epinet.co.uk Thu Feb 4 18:28:50 1999 From: rachel@epinet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.1 on SuSE 6.0 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 18:28:50 +0000 Message-ID: <36B9E6E2.E4A7A869@epinet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0313639978828509533==" --===============0313639978828509533== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I've blasted my installation and put SuSE 6.0 on it from scratch - to be precise, the installation from the 6.0-evaluation directory, which was a reasonable size to mirror locally for the process. It works very nearly perfectly, except for the following: Running YAST resets KDM's backdrop settings to their defaults, overriding what's been set. Just the backdrop setting as far as I can tell. There were a couple of other oddities but they were probably my fault. :-} Then, with everything working fine (I like the "done" messages in green), I installed kernel 2.2.1 This seems to be working fine except: Loading of the network modules didn't work. The dummy and ne modules which are all I use didn't load on startup and those parts of the boot showed "Failed". This was fixed for the real network card by adding "modprobe 8390 modprobe ne " at the start of /etc/rc.d/network - this may not be the best way of adding things to those scripts, but it does solve the problem for now. Definitive fix? However, it doesn't solve the Dummy driver not loading. "modprobe dummy" has no apparent effect in the same place. I'm not terribly worried about this as it doesn't seem to do very much at the best of times, but it's slightly irritating to see a failure notice. :-) --=20 Rachel - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0313639978828509533==-- From raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu Thu Feb 4 19:29:09 1999 From: raffo@neuronet.pitt.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Specified icons won't stick Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:29:09 -0500 Message-ID: <36B9F505.AA2AB112@neuronet.pitt.edu> In-Reply-To: <36B88BC2.2B2ED6F@neuronet.pitt.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0373192221926870819==" --===============0373192221926870819== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I still can't get KDE icons I specify to stay after I run YAST. Can anybody at SuSE give any suggestion? Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > mmmm.... That doesn't happen on my SuSE 5.3 installation. What does > happen is that the +s permissons in the /sbin directory are removed and > I have to reset the pppd every time YaST is run. >=20 Look at the output of YAST after you've made some change to your system. It checks the file permissions of certain files and "fixes" them. Look at the file '/etc/permissions'. I'm not sure where this is documented. Does anybody know? --=20 Rafael Herrera Laboratory for Computational Neuroscience University of Pittsburgh http://www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~raffo> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0373192221926870819==-- From martin_moeller@technologist.com Thu Feb 4 20:04:28 1999 From: martin_moeller@technologist.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] The whole YaST thing Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:04:28 +0100 Message-ID: <36B9FD4C.330B8F6E@technologist.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3832531731097340263==" --===============3832531731097340263== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > Martin Moeller wrote: > > [Can other distributions use Yast if they want to? And can users add to it?] > >From what I read of the copyright on YaST it is pretty much a LGPL. ??? > The license talks about being able to add code to it, etc..., as long as > you leave the original copyright notice in and follow certain steps to > mark who added what and/or changed what. And, the usual legal stuff so > legal reprecussions don't fall back on SuSE. Okay then. It seems anyone can do just about anything, then. That's great. Regards, Martin Moeller. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3832531731097340263==-- From cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl Thu Feb 4 20:16:39 1999 From: cees-list@griend.xs4all.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Network Printing Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:16:39 +0100 Message-ID: <19990204211639.A14077@griend.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <36B9A61E.36DDFDA8@opentv.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7380758622879158940==" --===============7380758622879158940== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 02:52:30PM +0100, Scott Bronson wrote: >=20 > My /etc/printcap: >=20 > lp|hpj: > :sd=3D/var/spool/lpd/dj: > :rm=3Dulysse.europe.opentv.com: > :rp=3Dprinter_2: > :lp=3D/dev/null: > :sh: You forgot to put '\' after the lines. Try the following printcap: lp|hpj:\ :sd=3D/var/spool/lpd/dj:\ :rm=3Dulysse.europe.opentv.com:\ :rp=3Dprinter_2:\ :lp=3D/dev/null:\ :sh: Succes, Cees. --=20 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7380758622879158940==-- From zulfiqar@shaw.wave.ca Thu Feb 4 20:36:55 1999 From: zulfiqar@shaw.wave.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Console printing......... Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:36:55 -0500 Message-ID: <36BA04E7.FE33CD64@shaw.wave.ca> In-Reply-To: <19990204211639.A14077@griend.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4625690225405846635==" --===============4625690225405846635== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I use a Xwindows based program like WP8, everything prints real nice. However when I use the console and do a cat foo.bar /dev/lp0 then it prints in landscape format. Is there a way where I can change it to portrait mode? - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4625690225405846635==-- From zulfiqar@shaw.wave.ca Thu Feb 4 21:25:11 1999 From: zulfiqar@shaw.wave.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Floppy disk and FSTAB Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:25:11 -0500 Message-ID: <36BA1037.5010A208@shaw.wave.ca> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8579328298631196335==" --===============8579328298631196335== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One more thing..... When I do get the floppy mounted and go to the mount point and type ls, it shows the files on the floppy, however, when I remove the floppy and ls again, it still shows the cached info from the previous floppy. Is there a way where it doesn't cache floppy info? Lenz Grimmer wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: > > > Yes I did the same thing and put 2 lines in...... > > > > 1 for ext2 and one for msdos, but it's kinda cumbersome to have 2 mount > > points for 2 different formats of floppies. > > > > Is it possible to enter this into the fstab? > > > > /dev/fd0 /floppy ext2 defaults 0 0 > > /dev/fd0 /floppy msdos defaults 0 0 > > > > Both filesystems pointing to the same mount point? > > No, this does not work. I suspect, that mount will alway use ext2 as the > filesystem to mount. You should change "defaults" to "rw,user,noauto", > otherwise the system will try to mount the floppy on each reboot. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8579328298631196335==-- From wybo@servalys.hobby.nl Thu Feb 4 21:52:38 1999 From: wybo@servalys.hobby.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] xgrabsc -> segmentation fault Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 22:52:38 +0100 Message-ID: <199902042152.WAA01045@servalys.hobby.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8426297707836690227==" --===============8426297707836690227== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 After installing SuSE-5.3 over 5.2 xgrabsc invariantly produces a segmentation fault. It worked fine before. Does anybody know why? --=20 Hartelijke groet, Wybo Dekker ___________________Servalys Analytical Chemistry Services__________________ wybo(a)servalys.hobby.nl | Deilsedijk 60 | tel +31-345-652164 www.hobby.nl/~servalys | 4158 CH Deil, The Netherlands | fax +31-345-652383 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8426297707836690227==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Thu Feb 4 22:19:54 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.1 on SuSE 6.0 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:19:54 -0500 Message-ID: <36BA1D0A.ED5719D3@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <36B9E6E2.E4A7A869@epinet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7266126841960241646==" --===============7266126841960241646== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rachel Greenham wrote: > Loading of the network modules didn't work. The dummy and ne modules > which are all I use didn't load on startup and those parts of the boot > showed "Failed". This was fixed for the real network card by adding > "modprobe 8390 modprobe ne " at the start of /etc/rc.d/network - > this may not be the best way of adding things to those scripts, but it > does solve the problem for now. Definitive fix? >=20 > However, it doesn't solve the Dummy driver not loading. "modprobe dummy" > has no apparent effect in the same place. I'm not terribly worried about > this as it doesn't seem to do very much at the best of times, but it's > slightly irritating to see a failure notice. :-) >=20 I know that the ne module should be set up in /etc/conf.modules to make it work as advertised. There should be 2 lines: alias etho ne and=20 ne irq# and ioport# - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7266126841960241646==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Feb 5 00:00:24 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Floppy disk and FSTAB Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 01:00:24 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BA1037.5010A208@shaw.wave.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7127797230091494737==" --===============7127797230091494737== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: > When I do get the floppy mounted and go to the mount point and type > ls, it shows the files on the floppy, however, when I remove the > floppy and ls again, it still shows the cached info from the previous > floppy. Is there a way where it doesn't cache floppy info? Yes - unmount it before. If you don't do that, you might get a corrupted floppy filesystem. You will notice, that Linux will write the changes to the floppy, as soon as is gets unmounted. Bye, LenZ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7127797230091494737==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Feb 5 00:02:48 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Howto_SuSE 5.2 --> SuSE 6.0 Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 01:02:48 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36B9928C.F297F5F9@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2299333652519244406==" --===============2299333652519244406== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Naceur wrote: I am highly interested in getting and installing SuSE 6.0 (because the on board AIC 7890) and simply because the 6 should be much better! However I have SusE 5.2 and NT installed on the only HD I have. Q1: What could be the safer way to Upgrade my SuSE 5.2 to SuSE 6.0 ? Today, I have just successeffully installed apache and the Local Doc Support DataBase (I am so happy ! It is so fast ! so useful !) but right now I did not find topics on how to answer how to pass from 5.XX to newer versions. Usually you boot from the new installation floppy or CD and select "update installed system". This will upgrade all packages and the base system to the new version. Bye, LenZ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2299333652519244406==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Fri Feb 5 03:25:14 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Story: Consumer NT? Why It Will *Never* Happen Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 22:25:14 -0500 Message-ID: <36BA649A.33D1E83F@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3616464439000083754==" --===============3616464439000083754== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.zdnet.co= m/anchordesk/story/story_3060.html> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3616464439000083754==-- From deem@wdm.com Fri Feb 5 04:13:39 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Alpha SuSE Linux! Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:13:39 -0900 Message-ID: <199902050413.TAA00433@wdm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5818620813184841800==" --===============5818620813184841800== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://linuxtoday.com/stories/2826.html> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5818620813184841800==-- From oceansand@mindspring.com Fri Feb 5 04:42:51 1999 From: oceansand@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: Floppy disk and FSTAB Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 23:42:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990204234251.007c2a50@pop.mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <36B9C082.F91C2016@shaw.wave.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5079679404225185063==" --===============5079679404225185063== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Here is the entry for your fstab file /dev/fd0 /floppy ext2 rw,noauto,user 0 0 Note: You must creat the directory /floppy before trying to mount the floppy disk. Also this will only mount a linux formatted floppy. To mount the floppy from the command line 1. Make sure a format floppy is in drive A 2. Issue this command: mount /dev/fd0 3. To change disk you must unmount the floppy and then remount the floopy disk. umount /dev/fd0 now change disks and then mount /dev/fd0 Christopher At 10:45 AM 2/4/99 -0500, you wrote: > >When I do put that line in and try to mount it by giving the command mount /floppy/ it >says that only root can do that... > > >However when I change the fstab entry to...... > > >/dev/fd0 /floppy auto rw,noauto,user,exec,umask=3D000 > >and issue a mount /floppy/ command it says...... > >zuli(a)L31:/home/zuli > mount /floppy/ >mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0, > or too many mounted file systems > > >And also when I issue just the mount command to see what is mounted it says........ > >zuli(a)L31:/home/zuli > mount >/dev/hda5 on / type ext2 (rw) >proc on /proc type proc (rw) > >It's werid :-) > >I don't think the AUTO entry works. When I change it to ext2 or msdos, it works just fine > > > >> >> You could also use something like >> >> /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto defaults 0 0 >> >> This way the file system is detected automatically. >> > >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archiv at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5079679404225185063==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Fri Feb 5 05:04:49 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] X-server & X-client Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:04:49 -1000 Message-ID: <36BA7BF1.43BCC917@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <36B6BE79.EF7CBEED@iname.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3513937995374505409==" --===============3513937995374505409== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks all - the xhost +oahu worked great. George - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3513937995374505409==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Fri Feb 5 05:12:16 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Floppy disk and FSTAB Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:12:16 -1000 Message-ID: <36BA7DB0.5B6417C7@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990203235132.007c4c20@pop.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1737184841944398311==" --===============1737184841944398311== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Christopher Ballog wrote: >=20 > Hello >=20 > You should not put your floppy disk in the fstab unless you want to use noa= uto option; and reason being is that if there is no floppy in the driver the = mount will fail. >=20 > Take a look at the manual pages "man fstab" and "man mount"for more informa= tion. >=20 > To mount the floppy from the command prompt use >=20 > mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy (for Linux format disks) -or- > mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy (for Dos format disks) I'm somewhat adverse to typing long lines, so I have /dev/fd0 in fstab in two locations, thus: /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy ext2 =20 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/vfat vfat =20 user,noauto 0 0 Works fine, and all I have to do to mount a Linux floppy is type: mount /mnt/floppy or a Win95 floppy: mount /mnt/vfat (The /mnt/floppy is a carry-over from my Red Hat days.) George - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1737184841944398311==-- From TXDELBAE@ctrl.co.uk Fri Feb 5 09:58:27 1999 From: TXDELBAE@ctrl.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] New Linux User Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:58:27 +0000 Message-ID: <90D7336CE2B9D211A18408002BB777096B97A6@ctrl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5114346692654977948==" --===============5114346692654977948== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Well, this Wednesday, I finally plucked up courage and installed Linux onto my home PC. Nothing great for you guy's and gal's, but for a total newbie to anything other than MS Windows, it was a big step. Biggest problem's I had were trying to get my graphics card to work (Diamond Fire GL1000 Pro), and I could not get X Windows configure my mouse. I had to get a new server for my graphics card, and had to disable USB support in my PC Bios. All in all, quite a painless task, and now I have a totally new OS to play around with. Can anyone recommend some good book's for getting to grips with Linux?, and are there any C.A.D. Programs that run under Linux? Thanks Tim Delbaere - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5114346692654977948==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Feb 5 10:56:03 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] New Linux User Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:56:03 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <90D7336CE2B9D211A18408002BB777096B97A6@ctrl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2172779995791361180==" --===============2172779995791361180== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Delbaere, Tim wrote: > Well, this Wednesday, I finally plucked up courage and installed Linux > onto my home PC. Nothing great for you guy's and gal's, but for a > total newbie to anything other than MS Windows, it was a big step. Welcome to the club :) > Biggest problem's I had were trying to get my graphics card to work > (Diamond Fire GL1000 Pro), and I could not get X Windows configure my > mouse. I had to get a new server for my graphics card, and had to > disable USB support in my PC Bios. All in all, quite a painless task, > and now I have a totally new OS to play around with. Congratulations. > Can anyone recommend some good book's for getting to grips with > Linux?, and are there any C.A.D. Programs that run under Linux? As far as CAD programs are concerned: there's Microstation, Arcad and some other free implementations. There are plenty of books available, I find it hard to recommend a certain one. Maybe you should start with "Linux for Dummies" (no pun intended) or "Running Linux". You should have a look at your local book store. Bye, LenZ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2172779995791361180==-- From awol@STAT.UNIMAAS.NL Fri Feb 5 11:00:29 1999 From: awol@STAT.UNIMAAS.NL To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 12:00:29 +0100 Message-ID: <99020512482400.00301@for> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4856720865788819611==" --===============4856720865788819611== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 Chris Martin wrote: >I encourage you to repost this under a different heading. I have to admit, I >almost didn't read it. But, I am glad I did. It is good to hear intelligent >questions/opinions, etc. I am curious whether you think the rather dim futu= re >you paint (if status quo remains status quo) means that we should all just >switch to RedHat right now? (despite knowing SuSE is nicer) Thanks for you reaction but I don't think I will repost under a different heading. There have only been 2 reactions from the hundreds(thousands?) of list followers so I do not think they find the subject very interesting. Personally I don't know what to think. I like SuSE, I like RedHat and next month I will also be trying out Debian. I don't think I am willing, at this time, to make any definite choice.=20 They all have nice and irritating features. And I don't think there is any reason, at the moment, to switch from one to the other (except 'personal compatibility and taste' reasons). But it is quite possible that if agreements on a Linux standard base are not reached and implemented we might find that the minor discrepencies between the distributions which occasionaly cause some irritation when switching between distributions might become gradually less minor. I have no idea what the consequences will be. But such a situation might necessitate a definite choice. You might like to look at the pronouncements of RedHat's Bob Young, see:=20 http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-01/lw-01-thesource.ht= ml>, on 'balkanization' of Linux. I think they are woolly and not very convincing because he only adresses the 'larger' picture and not the nitty gritty of existing differences. See also a differing view by Ian Nandhra: http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1998-10/lw-10-thesource2= .html>, but he stresses the libc-glibc difference too much, the one difference that in the short run will disappear (or become irrelevant). Alexander ------------------------------------- Alexander Volovics Dept of Methodology & Statistics Maastricht University, Maastricht, NL ------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4856720865788819611==-- From copernico@tin.it Fri Feb 5 11:00:45 1999 From: copernico@tin.it To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] leafnode Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 12:00:45 +0100 Message-ID: <000001be5172$1a498520$3ea7d8d4@copernico> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7181100715226614110==" --===============7181100715226614110== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not able to make leafnode work. What shall I put in the nntp server dialog of Knews (or Netscape Comm.) to make it go? I've tried with the name of my computer (as it is written in /etc/HOSTNAME) or with "loclhost" but the news-clients still refuse to connect to the (local)server. I've followed all the steps in the documentation supplied with leafnode.....and I don't know what to do anymore!! Please take a minute to helo me. Thank you. AS - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7181100715226614110==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Feb 5 11:03:34 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Floppy disk and FSTAB Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 12:03:34 +0100 Message-ID: <19990205120334.A276@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: <36B9C082.F91C2016@shaw.wave.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1852867060035223427==" --===============1852867060035223427== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 10:45 -0500, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: > However when I change the fstab entry to...... >=20 > /dev/fd0 /floppy auto rw,noauto,user,ex= ec,umask=3D000 >=20 > and issue a mount /floppy/ command it says...... >=20 > zuli(a)L31:/home/zuli > mount /floppy/ > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0, > or too many mounted file systems [...] > It's werid :-) Indeed. When I put it in, it works. The mount man page says that with the auto option the superblock gets probed and that the heuristics used for the probing sometimes fails. Ciao, Stefan - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1852867060035223427==-- From rachel@epinet.co.uk Fri Feb 5 11:41:48 1999 From: rachel@epinet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.1 on SuSE 6.0 Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:41:48 +0000 Message-ID: <36BAD8FC.F06CCE66@epinet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <36BA1D0A.ED5719D3@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4048714840254315090==" --===============4048714840254315090== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable zentara wrote: >=20 > Rachel Greenham wrote: >=20 > > Loading of the network modules didn't work. The dummy and ne modules > > which are all I use didn't load on startup and those parts of the boot > > showed "Failed". This was fixed for the real network card by adding > > "modprobe 8390 modprobe ne " at the start of /etc/rc.d/network - > > this may not be the best way of adding things to those scripts, but it > > does solve the problem for now. Definitive fix? > > > > However, it doesn't solve the Dummy driver not loading. "modprobe dummy" > > has no apparent effect in the same place. I'm not terribly worried about > > this as it doesn't seem to do very much at the best of times, but it's > > slightly irritating to see a failure notice. :-) > > >=20 > I know that the ne module should be set up in /etc/conf.modules > to make it work as advertised. >=20 > There should be 2 lines: > alias etho ne >=20 > and >=20 > ne irq# and ioport# Hmm. My /etc/conf.modules does indeed hold the following: alias eth0 ne options ne io=3D0x220 The fact remains that with the exact same scripts and conf.-files 2.2.1 exhibits a fault that 2.0.36 doesn't. Albeit not a showstopper. --=20 Rachel - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4048714840254315090==-- From awol@STAT.UNIMAAS.NL Fri Feb 5 11:53:00 1999 From: awol@STAT.UNIMAAS.NL To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 12:53:00 +0100 Message-ID: <99020512544902.00301@for> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2594402588688639793==" --===============2594402588688639793== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 zentara wrote: >alexander volovics wrote: >> But I for one would not like to see fundamentally different Linuxes come >= into >> existence. I would like to see essentialy one basis agreed upon and >adher= ed >> to. The distributions only putting different flavored icing on the same >> cake. And working together to promote and deliver a superior product. >>=20 >> I am very interested in hearing your opinions on these matters and I do >t= hink >> >> Should we users make our voice heard with respect to LSB? Can we leave it >> to the companies? Do we even want a commercialy succesfull Linux? >It goes without saying that the point has been made for standardizing >directory structures and config files. But I can use Midnight=20 >Commander on any distribution so far. Elf's run on all the machines, >except for the annoying glibc problem. I too compile and run programs like Lyx, Xisp, Enlightenment, etc. without any problems on both SuSE 5.3 and RH 5.2. But that is not the whole story:=20 I professionaly use a program that does/did not compile without problems on RH but gave problems on SuSE because SuSE had an older version of 'readline' than RH and also an older (or other?) version of 'f2c' than RH. (Fortran progs compiling without problems on RH would give all kinds of errors on SuSE). Furthermore there were some changes necessary due to differing locations of files. At the moment I have a commercial Linux app that gives problems on both SuSE and RH. 'Strace' shows different things happening when trying to open files on both. You certainly know that RPM's made for SuSE (base) will not necessarily work on RH and vice versa (and I am not talking about libc-glibc) These are only minor irritations of course, often easily corrected. But what if these small differences start becoming larger? And think of commercial ISV's developing for Linux? =20 >Also, if there were standards, it would slow down development because >if there was something you really needed to change, you would need the >consent of all your colleagues. That depends on WHAT is standardized. >Currently, all the distros can do what they >want, and let the distro "speak for itself". Who will set the standard? >Will it be an "International Convention of Linux Developers", or a >dictatorial proclamation from Linus Torvalds, or will it be Redhat >ramming it down our throats? The distros are (or should be) represented in the LSB project. I myself would not like everything 'fixed' or 'dictated' (I am an anarchist at heart) but on the other hand I use Linux for work=3Dmoney=3Dbread and I don't want to have to spend too much time with "unnecessary" tinkering and endless searches: Linux should be Linux. It is pretending to be 'grown up' now and not any longer (solely) a hackers plaything. Alexander ------------------------------------- Alexander Volovics Dept of Methodology & Statistics Maastricht University, Maastricht, NL ------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2594402588688639793==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Fri Feb 5 11:56:58 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re:[SuSE Linux] New Linux User Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 06:56:58 -0500 Message-ID: <36BADC89.46D0EC0F@connix.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] New Linux User> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0785204683683335516==" --===============0785204683683335516== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lenz Grimmer wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Delbaere, Tim wrote: > hard to recommend a certain one. Maybe you should start with "Linux for > Dummies" (no pun intended) or "Running Linux". You should have a look at > your local book store. > > Bye, > LenZ Id second the running Linux by Mat Walsh. Although I wouldnt waste any $ on the Dummies book. IMO the dummies book gives an overall snapshot of the picture similar to reading a newspaper rather than a book.The dummies book may be ok for your grandmother to read about what her grandson is interested in but wont do anything for you the user. An Excellent book on networking is The Linux Network by Butzon& Hilton.IDG books You'll also find the hard core reference to be from Oreilly. The best experience is from doing, get some tips from this list (once the fanfare of 6.0 and kerenl 2.1 dust settles maybe this list will go back to the basics) and apply them, make mistakes and you'll learn more of how linux and suse does things. Also lurk/read/print/file info from = news:comp.os.linux.setup> ne= ws:comp.os.linux.help> rob ps: why does the replyto seem to go to only the sender? I strongly suspect my messages not making it to this list. Must i reply to *all*. Many messages Ive sent... Ive not seen appear on this list ideas? Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0785204683683335516==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Fri Feb 5 12:04:26 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] external modems for linux Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 12:04:26 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990205120426.00afcc1c@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0316862521414542387==" --===============0316862521414542387== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an internal 56K modem , and my pc is really short on irqs ect... I am considering purchasing an external 56 k modem.=20 1/ are these easier to set up ? 2/ what brands/models work with linux ? 3/ can a linux/samba server be set up so that win95/8 users can use a single modem to dial out to the isp using the same modem ?? If so is this difficult to set up ?? thanks Samy - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0316862521414542387==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Fri Feb 5 12:08:08 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] samba 2 and suse 6.x Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 12:08:08 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990205120808.00ae98dc@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6383897409375862571==" --===============6383897409375862571== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any one know if suse 6.x comes with the new 2.0 version of samba on the distribution set ? Have any of you used the new verion of Samba 2.0 ? How does it compare to the older version. Is it dificult to upgrade the server from 1. to 2. ?? Am I beter off instaling the 2.0 not use the 1.x till I get the 2.0 ?? Thanks Samy - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6383897409375862571==-- From crumb@midwest.net Fri Feb 5 12:20:12 1999 From: crumb@midwest.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Boot Message Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 06:20:12 -0600 Message-ID: <199902051213.GAA23404@cdale3.midwest.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2829095576136255506==" --===============2829095576136255506== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone tell me what these boot messages mean, and=20 should I be concerned? SuSE 5.3 and everything SEEMS to work=20 fine. =20 Partition check: hda:hda: set_multimode: status =3D 0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete=20 Error} hda: set_multimode: error =3D 0x04 {DriveStatus Error} - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2829095576136255506==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Feb 5 12:21:50 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] New Linux User Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:21:50 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2819884846592243269==" --===============2819884846592243269== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Ole Kofoed Hansen wrote: > Usually, I find your advice very usable, unfortunately not this time. >=20 > I just borrowed Linux for Dummies at a local library, and I was apalled at > the errors and mistakes in the book. For instance in the description of > the ls command, they insist on option 1 (number one) instead of l (letter > L) for long format. >=20 > Even worse is, that they are probably not allowed to distribute the Linux > Cd accompanying the book... Yes, it sounds strange that they should not be > allowed, when all the rest of us are, but in their end user license > agreement at the end of the book, they specifically FORBID ANY COPYING and > REDISTRIBUTION of any material on the CD. And the GPL says that if you > accept the GPL, you must follow the rules therein. If you do not follow > those rules, you do not have any of the rights granted in the GPL.=20 I apologize. I must admit, that I've never looked in this book by myself. I just read about others recommending it to newbies, I've given up on reading books about Linux. They get obsolete so fast... ;-) > The other book, Running Linux, however is useful. I'd like to add, that we also have a package "books", which contains a selection of Books in PostScript format, like "Linux Installation and getting started" - Matt Welsh, "Linux Network Administrators Guide" - Olaf Kirch and the "Linux Users Guide" - Larry Greenfield. Bye, LenZ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2819884846592243269==-- From k01164@ko.hhs.dk Fri Feb 5 12:22:45 1999 From: k01164@ko.hhs.dk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] New Linux User Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 12:22:45 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5996986762817344048==" --===============5996986762817344048== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Lenz Grimmer wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Delbaere, Tim wrote: >=20 > > Well, this Wednesday, I finally plucked up courage and installed Linux > > onto my home PC. Nothing great for you guy's and gal's, but for a > > total newbie to anything other than MS Windows, it was a big step. >=20 > Welcome to the club :) >=20 > > Biggest problem's I had were trying to get my graphics card to work > > (Diamond Fire GL1000 Pro), and I could not get X Windows configure my > > mouse. I had to get a new server for my graphics card, and had to > > disable USB support in my PC Bios. All in all, quite a painless task, > > and now I have a totally new OS to play around with. >=20 > Congratulations. >=20 > > Can anyone recommend some good book's for getting to grips with > > Linux?, and are there any C.A.D. Programs that run under Linux? >=20 > As far as CAD programs are concerned: there's Microstation, Arcad and some > other free implementations. There are plenty of books available, I find it > hard to recommend a certain one. Maybe you should start with "Linux for > Dummies" (no pun intended) or "Running Linux". You should have a look at > your local book store. Usually, I find your advice very usable, unfortunately not this time. I just borrowed Linux for Dummies at a local library, and I was apalled at the errors and mistakes in the book. For instance in the description of the ls command, they insist on option 1 (number one) instead of l (letter L) for long format. Even worse is, that they are probably not allowed to distribute the Linux Cd accompanying the book... Yes, it sounds strange that they should not be allowed, when all the rest of us are, but in their end user license agreement at the end of the book, they specifically FORBID ANY COPYING and REDISTRIBUTION of any material on the CD. And the GPL says that if you accept the GPL, you must follow the rules therein. If you do not follow those rules, you do not have any of the rights granted in the GPL.=20 The other book, Running Linux, however is useful. Regards Ole >=20 > Bye, > LenZ >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH > mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 > http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Ger= many >=20 > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5996986762817344048==-- From Surjit.Bains@hsam.co.uk Fri Feb 5 12:24:11 1999 From: Surjit.Bains@hsam.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org 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--===============7330485388016353180==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Feb 5 12:47:08 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Boot Message Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:47:08 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199902051213.GAA23404@cdale3.midwest.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0158447434934720403==" --===============0158447434934720403== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 crumb(a)midwest.net wrote: > Can anyone tell me what these boot messages mean, and should I be > concerned? SuSE 5.3 and everything SEEMS to work fine. >=20 > Partition check: > hda:hda: set_multimode: status =3D 0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete=20 > Error} > hda: set_multimode: error =3D 0x04 {DriveStatus Error} You should be converned. It seems, that your hard disk is having some trouble. Try to disable UDMA in your bios, or start linux with the following boot option: ide0=3Dnoautotune. Also check your cabling to the hard disk, maybe you have a bad connection or a too long cable. Bye, LenZ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0158447434934720403==-- From phil@stokes.demon.co.uk Fri Feb 5 13:38:59 1999 From: phil@stokes.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Floppy disk and FSTAB Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:38:59 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990205120334.A276@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5095459597607671320==" --===============5095459597607671320== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Stefan Troeger wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 10:45 -0500, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: >=20 > > However when I change the fstab entry to...... > >=20 > > /dev/fd0 /floppy auto rw,noauto,user,= exec,umask=3D000 > >=20 > > and issue a mount /floppy/ command it says...... > >=20 > > zuli(a)L31:/home/zuli > mount /floppy/ > > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0, > > or too many mounted file systems > [...] > > It's werid :-) >=20 > Indeed. When I put it in, it works. The mount man page says that > with the auto option the superblock gets probed and that the > heuristics used for the probing sometimes fails. I get the same error, but I've found that it works if I use the "defaults" option. Of course then the system tries to mount /floppy at boot time, which leads to a different error message in the syslog. Phil --=20 Philip Stokes Email: phil(a)stokes.demon.co.uk Fax: +44 (0)870 164 1242 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5095459597607671320==-- From wybo@servalys.hobby.nl Fri Feb 5 13:44:31 1999 From: wybo@servalys.hobby.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] grep recursive Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 14:44:31 +0100 Message-ID: <199902051344.OAA04667@servalys.hobby.nl> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] grep recursive> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8879474533569764875==" --===============8879474533569764875== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nico wrote: > I have to search all the files in a directory and its subdirectories=20 > and their subdirectories for a string. >=20 > I can search a directory at a time with fgrep 'string' *.*, but this > is taking ages to do for every dirictory. Is their a way to grep > recursively through the directories? I could not find anything like > that in the manual. Here is my perl script that does this: #!/usr/bin/perl # rgrep - recursive grep=20 use Getopt::Std; require "finddepth.pl"; getopts('lih'); $opt_h and usage(); $pat=3Dshift or usage(); $d=3Dshift or usage(); -d $d or die "$d is not a directory\n"; finddepth($d); sub wanted { -f $_ or return; # we only want plain files: -z _ and return; # but no empty files: -B _ and return; # and no binary files: open(IN,$_); while( ) { ($opt_i ? /$pat/i : /$pat/) or next; $opt_l and do { print "$name\n"; last }; print "$name: $_"; } } sub usage { die "Usage: rgrep [-l] [-i] pattern ($pat) directory ($d)\n" } --=20 Hartelijke groet, Wybo Dekker ___________________Servalys Analytical Chemistry Services__________________ wybo(a)servalys.hobby.nl | Deilsedijk 60 | tel +31-345-652164 www.hobby.nl/~servalys | 4158 CH Deil, The Netherlands | fax +31-345-652383 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8879474533569764875==-- From martin_moeller@technologist.com Fri Feb 5 14:18:47 1999 From: martin_moeller@technologist.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] MAC addresses. Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:18:47 +0100 Message-ID: <36BAFDC7.6AC21C83@technologist.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0599740912558288957==" --===============0599740912558288957== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi SuSE'ers. Would any of you know of a generic way of querying an Ethernet adapthers MAC Address? It's not something I need terribly, but it's something I'd like to be able to do.=20 Would there be any way of detecting Ethernet cards in the machine without modprobing drivers? Some standard way of finding out 'this is a Ethernet adapter' of some type or other? Regards, Martin Moeller. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0599740912558288957==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Fri Feb 5 14:21:01 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: No Subject Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 14:21:01 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990205142101.00aff6b0@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4524832263672380973==" --===============4524832263672380973== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have stock 5.3 cd set , Which one do I need to use ?? Thanks Samy ftp://ftp.su= se.com/pub/suse_update/XFree86-3.3.3.1-SuSE/> .. glibc2/ 04.02.98 14:39:00 libc5/ 25.01.99 16:46:00 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4524832263672380973==-- From grimmer@suse.de Fri Feb 5 14:46:05 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Console printing......... Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:46:05 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BA04E7.FE33CD64@shaw.wave.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2384969778132636427==" --===============2384969778132636427== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: > When I use a Xwindows based program like WP8, everything prints real > nice. However when I use the console and do a cat foo.bar /dev/lp0 > then it prints in landscape format. Is there a way where I can change > it to portrait mode? Try to use "lpr foo.bar" to print regular text files. You can also change the orientation in /etc/apsfilterrc. Look for the keyword "FEATURE", there are several examples listed. Bye, LenZ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2384969778132636427==-- From nils@bourbon.propertymall.com Fri Feb 5 14:46:21 1999 From: nils@bourbon.propertymall.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Linux Books Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:46:21 +0100 Message-ID: <199902051446.PAA05097@bourbon.propertymall.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2964802405431491547==" --===============2964802405431491547== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Talking of Linux books, can anyone suggest a book that goes in depth into the Linux environment. What I am looking for is a book which does not give basic details of how to use Linux, but one which goes into details about system libraries (i.e. explaining a.out, ELF, glibc) and similiar topics? Nils nils(a)propertymall.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2964802405431491547==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Feb 5 15:13:10 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Floppy disk and FSTAB Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:13:10 +0100 Message-ID: <19990205161310.C598@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: <"H00006a0061b4645*/I=A/S=Crowe/OU=OPENMAIL1/OU=TSEA-E/O=SHELLEXPRO ABERDEEN/PRMD=SHELL/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/"@MHS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1294898737197158522==" --===============1294898737197158522== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 09:09 +0000, A.Crowe(a)OPENMAIL1.TSEA-E.sukepabe.simi= s.com wrote: > Add a line something like >=20 > /dev/fd0 /floppy ext2 defaults 0 0 >=20 > I tend to have two lines in my /etc/fstab - one for FAT FDs and one for > ext2 FDs. I dunno if it's absolutely necessary, but it works for me. > The line for FAT disks looks something like >=20 > /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat defaults 0 0 You could also use something like=20 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto defaults 0 0 This way the file system is detected automatically. Ciao, Stefan - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1294898737197158522==-- From johnvv@hotmail.com Fri Feb 5 15:20:53 1999 From: johnvv@hotmail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Consumer NT? CXN take :) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 07:20:53 -0800 Message-ID: <19990205152053.2712.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2607716741976299411==" --===============2607716741976299411== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I spent 2 full days killing myself with single-floppy-linux, and=20 I can say that, if I cant handle the stress, how the h*ll is Gates gunna=20 do it ?? :) So anyway, the ThinMan project is unfolding as a browser based java=20 station running on a SuSE base/cyrix w/ the best pub-dom stuff I can=20 find, with as much from IBM as possible. So I am interested in making an X version of CE, knowing full well that=20 CE will never be a development envrio. Every set-top-box OS=20 dilbert-ately locks down the user, the Corp/MBA is not here to enable=20 you, he/she/they are here to knock you down, maintain control, and=20 squeeze you for $. Needless to say there are companies that support the=20 pub-dom/linux/gnu/artistic principles, but in the consumer market (or=20 arena) the sadder reality is true, and Microsoft, with Bill Gates as=20 founder, is inherit-ly committed to "the squeeze" >>Hey, johnvv, lighten up, its Friday OK Oh yea, I installed debian yesterday from floppies, and in the haze I=20 accidently ordered SuSE. > >http://www.zdnet.c= om/anchordesk/story/story_3060.html> >- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2607716741976299411==-- From mperry@basin.com Fri Feb 5 15:42:31 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] New Linux User Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 07:42:31 -0800 Message-ID: <199902051542.HAA00369@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: <90D7336CE2B9D211A18408002BB777096B97A6@ctrl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0477008335342302712==" --===============0477008335342302712== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5 Feb, Delbaere, Tim wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > Well, this Wednesday, I finally plucked up courage and installed Linux onto > my home PC. Nothing great for you guy's and gal's, but for a total newbie to > anything other than MS Windows, it was a big step. Biggest problem's I had > were trying to get my graphics card to work (Diamond Fire GL1000 Pro), and I > could not get X Windows configure my mouse. I had to get a new server for my > graphics card, and had to disable USB support in my PC Bios. All in all, > quite a painless task, and now I have a totally new OS to play around with. >=20 > Can anyone recommend some good book's for getting to grips with Linux?, and > are there any C.A.D. Programs that run under Linux? >=20 > Thanks > Tim Delbaere > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> I like the manual which ships with SuSE 5.3 because it seems split into the parts I can digest the easiest and I also like a "Practical Guide to Linux" by Sobell. Sobell's book is not oriented toward any particular brand of linux and it is written in a way that I can read and take away. To get an idea about applications across the spectrum, take a look at the Linux Utilities and Applications Page at: http://www.xnet.com/~blatura/linux.shmtl> This is one of those pages you bookmark and come back to often. Take care and have fun!! --=20 Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com ------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0477008335342302712==-- From jperser@airmail.net Fri Feb 5 16:17:35 1999 From: jperser@airmail.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] grep recursive Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 10:17:35 -0600 Message-ID: <36BB199F.BBD88DEA@airmail.net> In-Reply-To: <19990110.205051.14806.4.gordster@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4253710711215727054==" --===============4253710711215727054== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's a perl script that you can use. Just call mfind at any directory level with a string you want to search for. It will recurse through every directory and scan the files. I use it many times every day. regs, -jrp Gordon E Heiitzman wrote: > >I have to search all the files in a directory and its subdirectories > >and their subdirectories for a string. > > > >I can search a directory at a time with fgrep 'string' *.*, but this > >is >taking ages to do for every dirictory. > >>Is their a way to grep recursively through the directories? I could > >not find anything like that in the manual. > > > >Thanks >Nico > >- > > A friend of mine has a utility called "tgrep" which does exactly > what you describe. Has anyone else heard of this? If it's not > available out there I could see about getting it to you. > Gordy gordy(a)usjet.net > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com= /getjuno.html> > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html>
#!/usr/bin/perl # # This script looks for a string in every text file it # can find # # John Perser (1-12-97) rev1 # Brenden Tennant (7-15-97) added linenumber printouts # added -v flag to print out every occurance in each file # added -a flag to print out only the lines that contain all= words in list # added -h flag to print out a help summary # added -q flag for quiet listing of filenames only # =20 # # printhelp prints a help screen to stdout. # sub printhelp { print "\n"; print " Usage for mfind:\n\n"; print " mfind [-hva] search_word [search_word] [search_word] [...]\n"; print " -h prints out this help text\n"; print " -v displays every line with a match in each file (not just th= e first)\n"; print " -a displays only the lines that contain all words to search o= n\n"; print " -w strips whitespace from the begining of matched lines\n"; print " -q prints a quiet listing with only filenames\n"; die "\n"; } # check command line parms for switches if (index($ARGV[0], "-") =3D=3D 0) { $flags =3D shift; } else { $flags =3D ""= ; } # make sure there is something to search for if ($ARGV[0] eq "") { &printhelp; } # handle switches if (index($flags, "h") >=3D 0) { &printhelp; } if (index($flags, "v") >=3D 0) { $verbose =3D 1; print "Verbose listing ON.\n= "; } else { $verbose =3D 0; } if (index($flags, "a") >=3D 0) { $andwords =3D 1; print "And word list ON.\n"= ; } else { $andwords =3D 0; } if (index($flags, "w") >=3D 0) { $stripwhitespace =3D 1; print "Whitespace st= riping ON.\n"; } else { $stripwhitespace =3D 0; } if (index($flags, "q") >=3D 0) { $nameonly =3D 1 } else { $nameonly =3D 0; } open ( FIND, "find . -print |") || die "Couldn't run find: $!\n"; FILE: while ($filename =3D) { chop $filename; next FILE unless -T $filename; if ( !open (TEXTFILE, $filename )) { print STDERR "Can't open $filename -- continuing...\n"; next FILE; } $linenumber =3D 0; while ( ) { $linenumber ++; if ($andwords =3D=3D 0) { foreach $word (@ARGV) { if (index($_, $word) >=3D 0) { if ($nameonly =3D=3D 1) { print "$filename\n"; next F= ILE; } =20 if ($stripwhitespace =3D=3D 1) { s/^\s*//; } print "$filename ($linenumber)-> $_"; if ($verbose =3D=3D 0) { next FILE; } } } } else { $valid =3D 1; foreach $word (@ARGV) { if ((index($_, $word) >=3D 0) && ($valid =3D=3D 1)) {=20 $valid =3D 1;=20 } else { $valid =3D 0; } =20 } if ($valid =3D=3D 1) { if ($stripwhitespace =3D=3D 1) { s/^\s*//; } print "$filename ($linenumber)-> $_"; if ($verbose =3D=3D 0) { next FILE; } } } } } --===============4253710711215727054==-- From wybo@servalys.hobby.nl Fri Feb 5 16:20:12 1999 From: wybo@servalys.hobby.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] grep recursive Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 17:20:12 +0100 Message-ID: <199902051620.RAA03148@servalys.hobby.nl> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] grep recursive> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5543833825140815750==" --===============5543833825140815750== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ralph Clark wrote: > Honestly! You perl fanatics would write a perl script to do > anything. There is no need for this really, it can be done with > standard unix commands. Just pick one of the following: >=20 > To print out all the matching lines themselves: >=20 > 1) find -type f -exec grep ' ' {} \; >=20 > To print out the names of all the files which contained a matching string: >=20 > 2) find -type f -exec grep -q ' ' {} \; -print > or > 3) find -type f -exec grep -l ' ' {} \; >=20 > To print out both (with the file's name appearing _after_ each list > of matching strings) >=20 > 4) find -type f -exec grep ' ' {} \; -print >=20 > I do this all the time. It might be interesting to compare memory > usage, CPU utilisation and execution time of these methods vs. the > above perl script. OK. First of all: find -f sees ELF binaries, .dvi- files etcetera, which you don't want to scan with grep-like programs. They can mess up your screen. Then: 1) does not show filenames at all, 2) and 3) work fine (except for the binaries) if you just want the filenames 4) shows the filenames at the end, which is not what you want because the output if difficult to parse. Even worse: you get the name on a separate line, and only after the last matching line.=20 Finally: speed and memory usage: Your command 4): elap 1.104 user 0.600 syst 0.500 CPU 99.65 My script: elap 0.296 user 0.260 syst 0.030 CPU 97.82 Yes, you are slower, because you start a process for every file you find. Which is also why you use more memory. Its your turn!! I hope you'll also become a Perl fanatic, sometime. --=20 Hartelijke groet, Wybo Dekker ___________________Servalys Analytical Chemistry Services__________________ wybo(a)servalys.hobby.nl | Deilsedijk 60 | tel +31-345-652164 www.hobby.nl/~servalys | 4158 CH Deil, The Netherlands | fax +31-345-652383 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5543833825140815750==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Feb 5 16:33:52 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.1 on SuSE 6.0 Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:33:52 -0500 Message-ID: <36BB1D70.2347BC76@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <36BAD8FC.F06CCE66@epinet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7787493615921479910==" --===============7787493615921479910== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rachel Greenham wrote: >=20 > zentara wrote: > Hmm. >=20 > My /etc/conf.modules does indeed hold the following: >=20 > alias eth0 ne > options ne io=3D0x220 >=20 > The fact remains that with the exact same scripts and conf.-files 2.2.1 > exhibits a fault that 2.0.36 doesn't. Albeit not a showstopper. I'm still waiting for my disks, so I'm just guessing. :-) Is it pnp? Maybe the card isn't getting setup right with the new "built-in-pnp" feature of the new kernel. Do the boot messages show the card being initialized? Did you enable the pnp feature of the 2.2.1 kernel? - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7787493615921479910==-- From jperser@airmail.net Fri Feb 5 16:35:38 1999 From: jperser@airmail.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] New Linux User Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 10:35:38 -0600 Message-ID: <36BB1DDA.CAF63278@airmail.net> In-Reply-To: <36BADC89.46D0EC0F@connix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4202857286438533574==" --===============4202857286438533574== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think the book that comes with the SuSE is pretty good. I've been using Unix for years and it seemed to be as informative on many topics as the things I've seen on the shelves in bookstores. If you are totally new to Unix, the Running Linux book would be a good choice. dizzy wrote: > Lenz Grimmer wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Delbaere, Tim wrote: > > hard to recommend a certain one. Maybe you should start with "Linux > for > > Dummies" (no pun intended) or "Running Linux". You should have a look > at - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4202857286438533574==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Feb 5 16:44:42 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:44:42 -0500 Message-ID: <36BB1FFA.D6F67185@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <99020512544902.00301@for> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3270109304523890368==" --===============3270109304523890368== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable alexander volovics wrote: >=20 > On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 zentara wrote: >=20 > At the moment I have a commercial Linux app that gives problems on both > SuSE and RH. 'Strace' shows different things happening when trying to > open files on both. That is a bit scary, isn't it? Why would strace show a difference? Because of differences in the shared libraries? Or something more "sinister" :-) > I myself would not like everything 'fixed' or 'dictated' (I am an > anarchist at heart) but on the other hand I use Linux for work=3Dmoney=3Dbr= ead > and I don't want to have to spend too much time with "unnecessary" tinkering > and endless searches: Linux should be Linux. > It is pretending to be 'grown up' now and not any longer (solely) a hackers > plaything. What is the problem of "linux not being the same everywhere"? Do you switch around to different machines alot? Or is it getting difficult to write a software application that will run on all versions of linux? - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3270109304523890368==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Feb 5 16:52:22 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Books Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:52:22 -0500 Message-ID: <36BB21C6.7DC94E51@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <199902051446.PAA05097@bourbon.propertymall.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1443094666614350964==" --===============1443094666614350964== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nils wrote: >=20 > Talking of Linux books, can anyone suggest a book that goes in depth into > the Linux environment. What I am looking for is a book which does not > give basic details of how to use Linux, but one which goes into details > about system libraries (i.e. explaining a.out, ELF, glibc) and similiar > topics? Well, it dosn't go into depth about glibc, but it does explain shell scripts, libaraires, curses, tcl, sockets, X, etc. It does it in an easy to understand style. It comes with example source code for you to compile also. Look at " Beginning Linux Programming" from Wrox Press Cheapbytes.com has it in their books section - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1443094666614350964==-- From mwagnon@ixpres.com Fri Feb 5 16:57:36 1999 From: mwagnon@ixpres.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] New Linux User Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 08:57:36 -0800 Message-ID: <36BB2300.5198DA0@ixpres.com> In-Reply-To: <199902051542.HAA00369@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6540682711840228501==" --===============6540682711840228501== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Perry wrote: >=20 > To get an idea about applications across the spectrum, take a look at > the Linux Utilities and Applications Page at: >=20 > http://www.xnet.com/~blatura/linux.shmtl> >=20 > This is one of those pages you bookmark and come back to often. I believe the URL is <= A HREF=3D"http://www.xnet.com/~blatura/linapps.shtmlhttp://www.xnet.com/= ~blatura/linapps.shtml> It is an excellent resource. --=20 __ _ Mark Wagnon -o) / / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chula Vista, CA /\\/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / mailto:mwagnon(a)ixpres.com _\_= v____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6540682711840228501==-- From lunaslyd@pacbell.net Fri Feb 5 17:02:14 1999 From: lunaslyd@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] New Linux User Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:02:14 -0800 Message-ID: <99020508590502.02403@sterling> In-Reply-To: <90D7336CE2B9D211A18408002BB777096B97A6@ctrl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7630993622898541088==" --===============7630993622898541088== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 05 Feb 1999, you wrote: >Hello, > >Well, this Wednesday, I finally plucked up courage and installed Linux onto >my home PC. Nothing great for you guy's and gal's, but for a total newbie to >anything other than MS Windows, it was a big step. Biggest problem's I had >were trying to get my graphics card to work (Diamond Fire GL1000 Pro), and I >could not get X Windows configure my mouse. I had to get a new server for my >graphics card, and had to disable USB support in my PC Bios. All in all, >quite a painless task, and now I have a totally new OS to play around with. > >Can anyone recommend some good book's for getting to grips with Linux?, and >are there any C.A.D. Programs that run under Linux? > The three books that never leave my side are: "Running Linux", Matt Welch and Lar Kaufman, O'Rielly and Associates; "UNIX Power Tools" by Jerry Peek, Tim O'Reilly and Mike Loukides, O'Reilly and Associates and "Essential System Administration" by AEleen Frisch, O'Reilly and Associates. If you're getting the impression that O'Reilly and Associates make great books on UNIX and Linu= x, you're paying attention. The latter two are more general UNIX info, but very useful. Running Linux is the bible. Well, I've heard Linus is a cad...oh! You mean computer aided design ;-) Doing a search at Google on "CAD/CAM", I came up with this: http://sal.kachinatech.com/E/2/index.shtm= l> Looks like most of the CAD stuff is still commercial, but I did notice one effort for a GPL CAD program in there. -- lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * * =20 In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is *=20 getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is =20 stupidity. * -Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas * =20 * * * * * - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7630993622898541088==-- From lunaslyd@pacbell.net Fri Feb 5 17:10:14 1999 From: lunaslyd@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Books Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:10:14 -0800 Message-ID: <99020509172506.02403@sterling> In-Reply-To: <199902051446.PAA05097@bourbon.propertymall.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7531830084789701241==" --===============7531830084789701241== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 05 Feb 1999, you wrote: >Talking of Linux books, can anyone suggest a book that goes in depth into >the Linux environment. What I am looking for is a book which does not >give basic details of how to use Linux, but one which goes into details >about system libraries (i.e. explaining a.out, ELF, glibc) and similiar >topics? I don't know if this meets your needs exactly. You can probably get an explaination of those topics on the net at the Linux Documentation Project: http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/> Anyway, as for books, "Beginning Linux Programming" by Wrox does explain some of the system libraries and how to use the UNIX/Linux enviornment for programming. It isn't for beginning programmers, but people who know how to program and want to learn on Linux. -- lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * * =20 In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is *=20 getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is =20 stupidity. * -Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas * =20 * * * * * - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7531830084789701241==-- From jxfish2@uswest.net Fri Feb 5 17:14:12 1999 From: jxfish2@uswest.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] 6.0 shipping... Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 10:14:12 -0700 Message-ID: <36BB26E4.AEEDAB6C@uswest.net> In-Reply-To: <36BB1DDA.CAF63278@airmail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1377581458583806784==" --===============1377581458583806784== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those interested... I just spoke with the North American SuSE distribution center... 6.0 is shipping NOW... Just thought I'd let ya all know... ;-) - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1377581458583806784==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Fri Feb 5 17:44:48 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] external modems for linux Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 17:44:48 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990205174448.00afd7b4@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <36BB69E3.91FB8B4@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5414402533776851497==" --===============5414402533776851497== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 05:00 PM 2/5/1999 -0500, you wrote: > >Samy Elashmawy wrote: hmmm. I was hoping that it(external modem) would use the irq and io address of the com port that it was on. ie com2 / irq3 com3 irq11 . Doent the new asus p5 mb allready have the new dast uart ? With an internal modem you need an empty irq and io address otherwise you need to disable something esle. Therfore I might as well use an external modem. I am realy getting tired of opening the case just to fiddle with the modem settings. Cheaper in the long run to use the external , and use my time elsewhere. =20 >> I have an internal 56K modem , and my pc is really short on irqs ect... >> I am considering purchasing an external 56 k modem. >>=20 >> 1/ are these easier to set up ? > >Well you don't have to worry about the pnp aspect of setting >it up. You still will need to use an irq for it. So you won't >be saving anything there. You will need to assign the irq to the=20 >onboard uart connected to your serial port. If the internal modem >is working now, you can move it to the irq your serial port is >on. Go into bios setup, find com port settings , and under >com2, disable it. Then irq 3 should be available to your >modem. Seyup the isapnp.conf to give irq 3 to the modem,=20 >or ghange the jumpers. >>3/ can a linux/samba server be set up so that win95/8 users can use a >=20 >> 2/ what brands/models work with linux ? > >I think any external works. >=20 > >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archiv at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5414402533776851497==-- From jperser@airmail.net Fri Feb 5 17:57:11 1999 From: jperser@airmail.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] grep recursive Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:57:11 -0600 Message-ID: <36BB30F7.65CF4123@airmail.net> In-Reply-To: <199902051620.RAA03148@servalys.hobby.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2093877659508777681==" --===============2093877659508777681== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well I'm not a perl fanatic, but I prefer to type less if possible. On my machine I can't tell the difference in run time between mfind and a find command. mfind -v ' ' is much simpler than find -type f -exec grep ' ' {} \; -print or find . -type f | xargs grep ' ' The advantage of the perl script is the output can be further refined by pipi= ng to grep. For example: mfind -v class | grep -n public Will locate and print out filename, linenumber and string for every occurrance of class AND public on the same line. and won't look through files that aren't of type TEXT. That's what I used before I learned perl. regs, -jrp "W.H. Dekker" wrote: > Ralph Clark wrote: > > > Honestly! You perl fanatics would write a perl script to do > > anything. There is no need for this really, it can be done with > > standard unix commands. Just pick one of the following: > > > > To print out all the matching lines themselves: > > > > 1) find -type f -exec grep ' ' {} \; > > > > To print out the names of all the files which contained a matching string: > > > > 2) find -type f -exec grep -q ' ' {} \; -print > > or > > 3) find -type f -exec grep -l ' ' {} \; > > > > To print out both (with the file's name appearing _after_ each list > > of matching strings) > > > > 4) find -type f -exec grep ' ' {} \; -print > > > > I do this all the time. It might be interesting to compare memory > > usage, CPU utilisation and execution time of these methods vs. the > > above perl script. > > OK. First of all: find -f sees ELF binaries, .dvi- files etcetera, > which you don't want to scan with grep-like programs. They can mess up > your screen. > > Then: > 1) does not show filenames at all, > 2) and 3) work fine (except for the binaries) if you just want the filenames > 4) shows the filenames at the end, which is not what you want because > the output if difficult to parse. Even worse: you get the name on a > separate line, and only after the last matching line. > > Finally: speed and memory usage: > > Your command 4): elap 1.104 user 0.600 syst 0.500 CPU 99.65 > My script: elap 0.296 user 0.260 syst 0.030 CPU 97.82 > > Yes, you are slower, because you start a process for every file you > find. Which is also why you use more memory. > > Its your turn!! I hope you'll also become a Perl fanatic, sometime. > -- > Hartelijke groet, Wybo Dekker > ___________________Servalys Analytical Chemistry Services__________________ > wybo(a)servalys.hobby.nl | Deilsedijk 60 | tel +31-345-6521= 64 > www.hobby.nl/~servalys | 4158 CH Deil, The Netherlands | fax +31-345-652383 > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2093877659508777681==-- From larry.yates@compaq.com Fri Feb 5 18:24:48 1999 From: larry.yates@compaq.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2 and Penguin Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 10:24:48 -0800 Message-ID: <9FFA13EBD965D1119BB700805FE646330256A072@excpla-19601.telecom.tandem.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0303146025105883642==" --===============0303146025105883642== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I compiled kernel 2.2 mainly to see the penguin upon logon, but I see no penguin... Seriously, I had other reasons for checking out the 2.2 kernel, but I 'really' wanted to see that penguin... What did I do wrong? -Larry - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0303146025105883642==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Feb 5 19:22:06 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Reply-To (was: Re: New Linux User) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 20:22:06 +0100 Message-ID: <19990205202206.A1859@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: <36BADC89.46D0EC0F@connix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5664072538156420099==" --===============5664072538156420099== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 06:56 -0500, dizzy wrote: > ps: why does the replyto seem to go to only the sender? I strongly > suspect my messages not making it to this list. Must i reply to *all*. > Many messages Ive sent... Ive not seen appear on this list > ideas? Well, the SuSE guys have finally removed the Reply-To pointing to the mailinglist address. This will (hopefully) safe us a lot of mail bounces. If you want to reply to the list, use the group reply feature of your mailer (or list reply if it has that). Ciao, Stefan - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5664072538156420099==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Feb 5 19:35:23 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Floppy disk and FSTAB Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 20:35:23 +0100 Message-ID: <19990205203523.B1859@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: <36B9C082.F91C2016@shaw.wave.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0367367124585093463==" --===============0367367124585093463== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 10:45 -0500, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: > However when I change the fstab entry to...... >=20 >=20 > /dev/fd0 /floppy auto rw,noauto,user,ex= ec,umask=3D000 >=20 > and issue a mount /floppy/ command it says...... >=20 > zuli(a)L31:/home/zuli > mount /floppy/ > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0, > or too many mounted file systems Try /dev/fd0 /floppy auto rw,noauto,user,exec If the umask=3D000 option is given, (v)fat disks can be mounted (that's what I tried), but ext2 disks not, because this option does not make sense with ext2. Ciao, Stefan - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0367367124585093463==-- From rachel@epinet.co.uk Fri Feb 5 19:51:16 1999 From: rachel@epinet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.1 on SuSE 6.0 Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 19:51:16 +0000 Message-ID: <36BB4BB4.1E2AD07B@epinet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <36BB1D70.2347BC76@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8638155744473599359==" --===============8638155744473599359== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable zentara wrote: >=20 > Rachel Greenham wrote: > > > > zentara wrote: >=20 > > Hmm. > > > > My /etc/conf.modules does indeed hold the following: > > > > alias eth0 ne > > options ne io=3D0x220 > > > > The fact remains that with the exact same scripts and conf.-files 2.2.1 > > exhibits a fault that 2.0.36 doesn't. Albeit not a showstopper. >=20 > I'm still waiting for my disks, so I'm just guessing. :-) >=20 > Is it pnp? Maybe the card isn't getting setup right with > the new "built-in-pnp" feature of the new kernel. > Do the boot messages show the card being initialized? > Did you enable the pnp feature of the 2.2.1 kernel? PNP is not enabled at any stage. I can't remember right now if it reads the card details during bootup. --=20 Rachel - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8638155744473599359==-- From rachel@epinet.co.uk Fri Feb 5 19:55:15 1999 From: rachel@epinet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2 and Penguin Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 19:55:15 +0000 Message-ID: <36BB4CA3.4A4403E1@epinet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9FFA13EBD965D1119BB700805FE646330256A072@excpla-19601.telecom.tandem.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4902774033819945642==" --===============4902774033819945642== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Yates, Larry" wrote: >=20 > Hi! >=20 > I compiled kernel 2.2 mainly to see the penguin > upon logon, but I see no penguin... >=20 > Seriously, I had other reasons for checking out > the 2.2 kernel, but I 'really' wanted to see > that penguin... >=20 > What did I do wrong? I understand you "see the penguin" when running framebuffer console. You can configure this to run with 2.2 kernels, but it's not the default and I haven't figured out how to do it either. Was going to ask myself at some point... :-} --=20 Rachel - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4902774033819945642==-- From mperry@basin.com Fri Feb 5 19:58:33 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] minimal rescue boot system Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:58:33 -0800 Message-ID: <199902051958.LAA00562@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3800324124049803740==" --===============3800324124049803740== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just downloaded a rather nice minimal boot rescue system that fits on a floppy diskette called ramfloppy. This includes utilities, will mount ide disks interactively with mount commands, and the process creates a bootable floppy diskette for those times you need it. It took me about 10 minutes to build the rescue diskette but you will need the RAR archiver/unarchiver to decompress it. Pretty cool stuff. It launches with mc running and an editor in place. Its at sunsite incoming now. =20 --=20 Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com ------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3800324124049803740==-- From rachel@epinet.co.uk Fri Feb 5 19:59:36 1999 From: rachel@epinet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] BitchX is not an X application. :-) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 19:59:36 +0000 Message-ID: <36BB4DA7.1DAAC629@epinet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6145331148868891482==" --===============6145331148868891482== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just thought I'd mention it, as it's listed under xap for X applications (or Applications that run under X to be exact). It's a terminal program, not X. :-) Probably should be under n for Networking stuff - where ircii lives... --=20 Rachel - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6145331148868891482==-- From rachel@epinet.co.uk Fri Feb 5 20:03:17 1999 From: rachel@epinet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 bug: Acrobat plugin for Netscape Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 20:03:17 +0000 Message-ID: <36BB4E85.7AC3EBF7@epinet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5470120056756741446==" --===============5470120056756741446== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK this is all with virgin stuff installed from SuSE 6.0, not downloaded or installed from anywhere else - the Acrobat Plugin for Netscape Communicator doesn't work because it's looking for libc5 (libc.so.5) and can't find it. The exact error message is: "ERROR: libc.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Can't load plugin /usr/X11R6/lib/Acrobat3/Browsers/intellinux/nppdf.so. Ignored. The listed file ...nppdf.so is there, and accessible under my user, so I think it's the library that's missing not the plugin. :-) acroread itself seems to work OK. And I've just checked my /lib and guess what? No libc.so.5 (standard install from SuSE-Linux.6.0-evaluation, no subsequent modifications by me). I'm just looking at the SuSE ftp site... Downloading shlibs.rpm and shlibs5.rpm in the hope that this is what I need - although YAST *tells* me I already have them... Anyway, we'll see - this could of course kill my system... :-} Nope, that wasn't it. What should I do to run stuff that needs libc.so.5? (Hey, I thought Netscape needed it, but that's working... Is SuSE distributing the glibc version these days?) --=20 Rachel - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5470120056756741446==-- From linux1@mail.crc.com Fri Feb 5 20:04:00 1999 From: linux1@mail.crc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.1 on SuSE 6.0 Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:04:00 -0500 Message-ID: <9902059182.AA918245369@mail.crc.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] 2.2.1 on SuSE 6.0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5314197372883386304==" --===============5314197372883386304== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I discovered that I had to add a "sleep 3" to the /etc/rc.d/pcmcia at the end of the start block when I went to the 2.2.x kernels over the 2.0.36 kernels. -----Original Message----- From: Rachel Greenham at Internet To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com at Internet Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 2:51 PM Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] 2.2.1 on SuSE 6.0 > >zentara wrote: >> >> Rachel Greenham wrote: >> > >> > zentara wrote: >> >> > Hmm. >> > >> > My /etc/conf.modules does indeed hold the following: >> > >> > alias eth0 ne >> > options ne io=3D0x220 >> > >> > The fact remains that with the exact same scripts and conf.-files >2.2.1 >> > exhibits a fault that 2.0.36 doesn't. Albeit not a showstopper. >> >> I'm still waiting for my disks, so I'm just guessing. :-) >> >> Is it pnp? Maybe the card isn't getting setup right with >> the new "built-in-pnp" feature of the new kernel. >> Do the boot messages show the card being initialized? >> Did you enable the pnp feature of the 2.2.1 kernel? > >PNP is not enabled at any stage. I can't remember right now if it reads >the card details during bootup. > >-- >Rachel >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archiv at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5314197372883386304==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Feb 5 20:12:29 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] XFree 3.3.3.1 (was: no subject) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 21:12:29 +0100 Message-ID: <19990205211229.A3304@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990205142101.00aff6b0@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6759974612969181460==" --===============6759974612969181460== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 14:21 +0000, Samy Elashmawy wrote: > I have stock 5.3 cd set , Which one do I need to use ?? [...] > ftp://ftp.s= use.com/pub/suse_update/XFree86-3.3.3.1-SuSE/> > .. > glibc2/ 04.02.98 14:39:00 > libc5/ 25.01.99 16:46:00 libc5. Ciao, Stefan - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6759974612969181460==-- From mathowel@nmsu.edu Fri Feb 5 21:07:48 1999 From: mathowel@nmsu.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] PCMCIAsupport Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 14:07:48 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7074202015619302442==" --===============7074202015619302442== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable how can I compile PCMCIA support for a Linksys Ethernet Card. Currently there is no PCMCIA support at all, no lights on the dongle or anything. If anyone has any suggestions at all I would appreciate it. Matthew D. Howell mathowel(a)nmsu.edu NMSU - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7074202015619302442==-- From tsteven@maptel.es Fri Feb 5 21:27:08 1999 From: tsteven@maptel.es To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] New Linux User Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 22:27:08 +0100 Message-ID: <001101be514e$4cc91ca0$95964dc3@tstevenmaptel> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] New Linux User> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8369240819545679021==" --===============8369240819545679021== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- From: Delbaere, Tim To: 'Linux List' Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 10:58 AM Subject: [SuSE Linux] New Linux User > >Hello, > >Well, this Wednesday, I finally plucked up courage and installed Linux onto >my home PC. Nothing great for you guy's and gal's, but for a total newbie to >anything other than MS Windows, it was a big step. Biggest problem's I had >were trying to get my graphics card to work (Diamond Fire GL1000 Pro), and I >could not get X Windows configure my mouse. I had to get a new server for my >graphics card, and had to disable USB support in my PC Bios. All in all, >quite a painless task, and now I have a totally new OS to play around with. Hi, Me too,now have SuSE 5.3 up and running without many problems. I also had a problem when setting up my mouse:- if i set it up first with YaST when doing the initial installation and then set up X with SAX then I got a multiple entry problem. I resolved this by saying no in YaST then using SAX to configure it later. After following this list for some time before trying linux I thought the biggest problems would be with some kinds of hardware, eg soundcards but happily my awe 64 card worked perfectly ( using tcd ) the first time after changing kernels to 2.0.36 and using the sound options when building the new kernel. In fact all i had to change was the irq to 10 and dma channel 1 to 0, what puzzles me is how one would know these figures if it wasnt set up on a windows box first?. Complaints?? only one so far, I have found it absolutely impossible :) to get the simplest form of connection to my isp up and running, How come its so easy under W9x?? and so complicated under linux??? Trevor. >Tim Delbaere >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archiv at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8369240819545679021==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Feb 5 22:00:03 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] external modems for linux Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 17:00:03 -0500 Message-ID: <36BB69E3.91FB8B4@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990205120426.00afcc1c@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8535938273683433722==" --===============8535938273683433722== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Samy Elashmawy wrote: >=20 > I have an internal 56K modem , and my pc is really short on irqs ect... > I am considering purchasing an external 56 k modem. >=20 > 1/ are these easier to set up ? Well you don't have to worry about the pnp aspect of setting it up. You still will need to use an irq for it. So you won't be saving anything there. You will need to assign the irq to the=20 onboard uart connected to your serial port. If the internal modem is working now, you can move it to the irq your serial port is on. Go into bios setup, find com port settings , and under com2, disable it. Then irq 3 should be available to your modem. Seyup the isapnp.conf to give irq 3 to the modem,=20 or ghange the jumpers. >=20 > 2/ what brands/models work with linux ? I think any external works. =20 > 3/ can a linux/samba server be set up so that win95/8 users can use a > single modem to dial out to the isp using the same modem ?? If so is this > difficult to set up ?? I never tried it, but others have done it. It will probably take you a Saturday afternoon of fiddling with it. I think you need to setup gateway, and ip masquerading. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8535938273683433722==-- From eck@ti.com Fri Feb 5 22:10:11 1999 From: eck@ti.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2 and Penguin Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:10:11 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9FFA13EBD965D1119BB700805FE646330256A072@excpla-19601.telecom.tandem.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8302453379963348237==" --===============8302453379963348237== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You need to compile 2.2 for framebuffers and inorder to do this I think you need to check yes for expermental compile options. Terry On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Yates, Larry wrote: >=20 > Hi! >=20 > I compiled kernel 2.2 mainly to see the penguin > upon logon, but I see no penguin... >=20 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8302453379963348237==-- From mlmayo@texas.net Fri Feb 5 23:23:51 1999 From: mlmayo@texas.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] New Linux User / ISP connection Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 17:23:51 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001101be514e$4cc91ca0$95964dc3@tstevenmaptel> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6910421194470947930==" --===============6910421194470947930== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Complaints?? only one so far, I have found it absolutely impossible :) > to get the simplest form of connection to my isp up and running, How come > its so easy under W9x?? and so complicated under linux??? > Trevor. Try a program called wvdial, you can't beat it for quick easy setup. I can't recall the URL but any search engine will point in the right direction. It has a pretty universal conf file which you edit with your user name and password so hooking up with your ISP should not be a problem. The modem auto-recognition/config feature is great. I'm using it with a USR Courier external which was good when I had Windows on my machine but it screams now. I haven't even bothered to tweak the init string. The interface isn't pretty and you will have to alt-F* to another console after you start it from the command line since it does not let go of the console you start it at, but this has some advantages too. Mike > > >Tim Delbaere > >- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > >archiv at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6910421194470947930==-- From tschlemmer@gmswireless.com Sat Feb 6 00:05:37 1999 From: tschlemmer@gmswireless.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] external modems for linux Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:05:37 -0800 Message-ID: <36BB8751.EE5391FF@gmswireless.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990205174448.00afd7b4@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4387088646131987589==" --===============4387088646131987589== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An external modem uses the IRQ of whatever COM port you connect it to.=20 Samy Elashmawy wrote: >=20 > At 05:00 PM 2/5/1999 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Samy Elashmawy wrote: >=20 > hmmm. I was hoping that it(external modem) would use the irq and io address > of the com port that it was on. ie com2 / irq3 com3 irq11 . Doent the new > asus p5 mb allready have the new dast uart ? >=20 > With an internal modem you need an empty irq and io address otherwise you > need to disable something esle. Therfore I might as well use an external > modem. I am realy getting tired of opening the case just to fiddle with the > modem settings. Cheaper in the long run to use the external , and use my > time elsewhere. >=20 >=20 >=20 > >> I have an internal 56K modem , and my pc is really short on irqs ect... > >> I am considering purchasing an external 56 k modem. > >> > >> 1/ are these easier to set up ? > > > >Well you don't have to worry about the pnp aspect of setting > >it up. You still will need to use an irq for it. So you won't > >be saving anything there. You will need to assign the irq to the > >onboard uart connected to your serial port. If the internal modem > >is working now, you can move it to the irq your serial port is > >on. Go into bios setup, find com port settings , and under > >com2, disable it. Then irq 3 should be available to your > >modem. Seyup the isapnp.conf to give irq 3 to the modem, > >or ghange the jumpers. > >>3/ can a linux/samba server be set up so that win95/8 users can use a > > > >> 2/ what brands/models work with linux ? > > > >I think any external works. > > > > > >- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > >archiv at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > > > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> -- Tony Schlemmer | Phone : 425-372-2246 Software Developer | Fax : 425-372-2222 Global Mobility Systems, Inc. | Mobile: 425-503-8544 11201 SE 8th Street, Suite 110 | mailto:tschlemmer(a)gmswireless.com Bellevue, WA 98004 | http://www.gmswireless.com> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4387088646131987589==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Sat Feb 6 02:01:53 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ATI Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 21:01:53 -0500 Message-ID: <36BBA291.55BC194@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3385051578627209072==" --===============3385051578627209072== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, the Adaptec 7890 controller may be supported in 6.0, now if only the ATI Rage Pro 3D which is imbedded on Dell Poweredge 2300s is supported, because it sure isn't in 5.3. Anyone know? Thanks, Fred - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3385051578627209072==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Sat Feb 6 02:41:03 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2 and Penguin Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 18:41:03 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9FFA13EBD965D1119BB700805FE646330256A072@excpla-19601.telecom.tandem.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3710016251266694682==" --===============3710016251266694682== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Yates, Larry wrote: > Seriously, I had other reasons for checking out > the 2.2 kernel, but I 'really' wanted to see > that penguin... > What did I do wrong? You have to check out the docs..I am probably forgetting..but I _believe_ you have to enable it when you run make config/make menuconfig or whatever. Then you have to set it up in lilo. It won't just show the penguin by default just because you have the new kernel. Also your mobo has to support it. This is what I recall: configure vesafb into the kernel, add vga=3Dask to /etc/lilo.conf, press 305 when asked for the mode. If you get invalid mode it's due to the mobo, I _think_.=20 Now I could be dead wrong on this. I don't run the penguin so your mileage may vary. Happy penguining (sic) .=20 -M - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3710016251266694682==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Sat Feb 6 02:46:37 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] New Linux User Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 21:46:37 -0500 Message-ID: <36BBAD0C.9B8DC643@connix.com> In-Reply-To: <41A241233152D211A75800805FAD5713025B48@EXCHANGE1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2704957448763579466==" --===============2704957448763579466== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Surjit Bains wrote: > > Networking Linux (Can't Remember who the publisher it's got a blue > cover) can't remember the price > Excellent book ( as a Network Newbie )on Networking explains concepts > very clearly and explains how to setup IP Masq, PPP, Web Server Setup, > Kernel compliation... > > I hope this helps... > Surjit. Yes! Thats the book I was talking about The Linux Network by Fred Butzen and Christopher Hilton ISBN 1-55828-589-X $39.95 rob Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2704957448763579466==-- From rachel@epinet.co.uk Sat Feb 6 03:15:13 1999 From: rachel@epinet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 bug: Acrobat plugin for Netscape Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 03:15:13 +0000 Message-ID: <36BBB3C1.F5A6CD76@epinet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] SuSE 6.0 bug: Acrobat plugin for Netscape> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6506544979450984626==" --===============6506544979450984626== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andreas Gerstlauer wrote: >=20 > > What should I do to run stuff that needs libc.so.5? (Hey, I thought > > Netscape needed it, but that's working... Is SuSE distributing the > > glibc version these days?) >=20 > Netscape (as everything in SuSE 6.0--- well, almost) is glibc. > If you install the shlibs5 package, libc.so.5 will be there > (in /usr/i486-linux/libc5/lib). Oh yeah. :-} Actually /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib ^ > I had the same problem and tried it with a link to libc.so.5 > in the /lib directory. Bad idea, netscape crashes when trying > to load a PDF document. yep. > Luckily I found an article in the German support database about > the problem. Solution: disable the nppdf.so plugin and revert > to executing "acroread" external to netscape for PDF docs Oh poo. It was working on SuSE 6.0 beta as well... --=20 Rachel Who on Monday will attempt to get the ShockWave Flash plugin working again... :-} - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6506544979450984626==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Sat Feb 6 03:25:46 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] New Linux User Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 19:25:46 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <90D7336CE2B9D211A18408002BB777096B97A6@ctrl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4684810830965845275==" --===============4684810830965845275== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Delbaere, Tim wrote: > Can anyone recommend some good book's for getting to grips with Linux?, and > are there any C.A.D. Programs that run under Linux? >=20 > Thanks > Tim Delbaere Well, I think it depends a bit on what you want to learn and why you use Linux as well. Are you into programming? Are you coming at it purely from a user standpoint? How much detail do you want?=20 I think there are a number of good beginner texts out there ( which you'll rapidly outgrow). Running Linux is a good starting Linux specific text. ( I'm sure we'll see it recommended several times.) Beginning Linux Programming is a good intro for programming Linux on intel. There are also some good basic Unix books that with some care can be applied to Linux ( keeping in mind, that some Unix commands and programs act slightly differently from their GNU counterparts, with the latter being an improvement or degradation depending on your viewpoint and taste. :-), in this regard, I would include the good, but somewhat dated Essential System Administration for the 'next level' of books, as it goes a bit beyond just learning basic commands to actually getting more familiar with scripting, and the details and philosophy of administering Linux and Unix systems. ( Unix System Administrator's Handbook, IMHO, right now is the clearly superior text, but omits specific mention of Linux and 'linuxisms', and costs about twice what Aesch' ESA does. )=20 One thing I'd recommend: Take some day when you have time and go to a book with a massive computer section and just look at what the various titles have to offer. There is new stuff coming out all the time, with a variety of focuses, you might want to 'expose' yourself to the market. I also think it's good not to underestimate the already existing FREE information like the LDP ( Note that S.u.S.E. includes alot of faqs and docs with the distribution ) and online man pages. I think you might be often surprised that with a little patience, a lot of questions, if addressed on an 'as needed' basis can still be found there. Not all, though, and some of the data is not 1000p to date. Welcome aboard, and happy Linuxing,=20 -M - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4684810830965845275==-- From tomas@primenet.com Sat Feb 6 03:33:58 1999 From: tomas@primenet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] leafnode Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 19:33:58 -0800 Message-ID: <36BBB825.B64916EA@primenet.com> In-Reply-To: <000001be5172$1a498520$3ea7d8d4@copernico> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2468630526973998684==" --===============2468630526973998684== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Antonino Sabetta wrote: >=20 > I'm not able to make leafnode work. What shall I put in the nntp > server dialog of Knews (or Netscape Comm.) to make it go? I've tried > with the name of my computer (as it is written in /etc/HOSTNAME) or > with "loclhost" but the news-clients still refuse to connect to the > (local)server. I've followed all the steps in the documentation > supplied with leafnode.....and I don't know what to do anymore!! > Please take a minute to helo me. > Thank you. This is assuming that you run a standalone system that you just want to download news to so you can read at your leisure. If this is the case then you don't want to use what you put in your '/etc/HOSTNAME'. Make sure that your '/etc/NNTPSERVER' or $NNTPSERVER says 'localhost', then within your news reader, put the newsserver as 'localhost' as well. Run '/usr/local/sbin/fetch -vv' so that it will get all the available news groups (this takes a VERY long time) when done, open your newsreader and subscribe to the groups you wish to read. Then run fetch again so that it will download your selected news groups. Hope this helps. also I noticed above that you typed loclhost, hopefully that was a typo and not what you actually put. Let me know if this helps. --=20 Ec|ipse on EFnet - tomas(a)primenet.com - http://www.primenet.com= /~tomas> Ec|ipse@|Watcher| - botnet webpage down until further notice Slackware Linux v3.6+ - Kernels 2.0.35/2.2.1 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2468630526973998684==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Sat Feb 6 03:40:44 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 19:40:44 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <99020512544902.00301@for> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6844603711142569977==" --===============6844603711142569977== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, alexander volovics wrote: > I myself would not like everything 'fixed' or 'dictated' (I am an > anarchist at heart) but on the other hand I use Linux for work=3Dmoney=3Dbr= ead > and I don't want to have to spend too much time with "unnecessary" tinkering > and endless searches: Linux should be Linux. > It is pretending to be 'grown up' now and not any longer (solely) a hackers > plaything. This has been an interesting thread to watch. Pathologically laziness and an absence of time to spend 50 minutes trying to create a response that is 'worthy' kept me away from the keys, but... I think this is a good thing, --this move to standardize things across distributions. For one thing, I think it, in the _long_ run, will improve the 'image' of Linux ( and like it or not, image is important ) and helps get rid of the 'wild man' element that helped launh Linux, but now seems to be holding it back from becoming _universally_ acknowledged as a viable platform solution. I do think people underestimate the complexity of the project and the things that need to happen for it to be done The Right Way.=20 I also think it would be nice to see how they handle the vast differences in installation routines.. I think it would be nice to have some kind of standardization across the board on what it takes to build and install a Linux system INTERACTIVELY--- if you read the recent comments in LJ, you know one of the main concerns/issues by major companies about Linux from moving to the next level as a platform solution for manufactors is that it is still not easy and smooth enough in the configuration and installation of Linux boxes.=20 Thank you all for your thoughtful posts. It has been a fun read.=20 -M - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6844603711142569977==-- From hagenmik@pipeline.com Sat Feb 6 03:42:13 1999 From: hagenmik@pipeline.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] PCMCIA module for SCSI CD-ROM? Repeat query... Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 22:42:13 -0500 Message-ID: <006d01be5182$b02a19a0$3d8156d1@mikehagen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1698504321689975482==" --===============1698504321689975482== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --===============1698504321689975482==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Sat Feb 6 03:48:42 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 19:48:42 -0800 Message-ID:Am attempting to install SuSE 5.3 on a So= ny 505F=20 laptop.Have booted from a floppy and need to rec= ognize=20 Panasonic CD-ROM KXL-D740 .(DejaNews tells me the Panasonic SCSI card is based on QLogic CSE ch= ip=20 set.)When I attempt to load PCMCIA modules, it finds i82365 ch= ipset=20 and asks for"Parameters for PCMCIA core modules." I=20 have no idea what to enter.If I leave it blank, system freezes.Can anyone help?In-Reply-To: <99020512482400.00301@for> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5159517230962311059==" --===============5159517230962311059== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Personally I don't know what to think. I like SuSE, I like RedHat and next > month I will also be trying out Debian. I don't think I am willing, at this > time, to make any definite choice.=20 > They all have nice and irritating features. > And I don't think there is any reason, at the moment, to switch from > one to the other (except 'personal compatibility and taste' reasons). I agree. I have mixed reactions to the 'competitive' attitude users have about the dists. I think most of the time, people prefer dists for personal reasons of taste, as opposed to reasons that are primarily of a logistic nature. I think some of this creates a hostile and divisive climate. I think S.u.S.E., RedHat ( especially now ), Debian, are all good distributions. The main thing that is needed is more common ground between distributions of Linux so as to merge with that larger world that has no vested interest in seeing Linux succeed, so that the growth can continue in a positive direction. I think, at the end of this we could have Linuxes with distinct personalities and flavours that retain their technical 'personality' while at the same time acknowledging those things that need to happen across the board to promote universal acceptance of Linux as a platform solution for a variety of services. I'll love it when the 'hacker' and 'wild man' image that still infests ( bad choice of words, sorry ) Linux--is traded in for one of even more increasing acceptance and respectability, not just for 'special interests' but for potentially everyone that wants to benefit from the technical superiorty (IMHO ) of inexpensive Unices for big companies and even single user workstations. -M - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5159517230962311059==-- From fmiller@lightlink.com Sat Feb 6 04:17:10 1999 From: fmiller@lightlink.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ZDNN: Linux desktop move still on hold Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 23:17:10 -0500 Message-ID: <36BBC246.5EC69E69@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8385123165309001526==" --===============8385123165309001526== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable htt= p://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2204202,00.html> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8385123165309001526==-- From dag@umr.edu Sat Feb 6 04:27:47 1999 From: dag@umr.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2 and Penguin Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 22:27:47 -0600 Message-ID: <001a01be5189$0cde0980$7b409783@cleo> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2 and Penguin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5058474376898715827==" --===============5058474376898715827== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have the penguin when i boot up. All i did was when i installed kernel version 2.1.130 with slackware 3.6, it had a place for my Matrox Millennium g200 card. It didn't ever ask me if i wanted the Penguin, just if i wanted to enable all of the features for my video card. I'm pretty sure it has to do with the video settings of your card, the buffering that was mentioned before is a good guess. > >On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Yates, Larry wrote: >> Seriously, I had other reasons for checking out >> the 2.2 kernel, but I 'really' wanted to see >> that penguin... >> What did I do wrong? >You have to check out the docs..I am probably forgetting..but I _believe_ >you have to enable it when you run make config/make menuconfig or >whatever. Then you have to set it up in lilo. It won't just show the >penguin by default just because you have the new kernel. Also your mobo >has to support it. This is what I recall: > >configure vesafb into the kernel, add vga=3Dask to /etc/lilo.conf, press 305 >when asked for the mode. If you get invalid mode it's due to the mobo, I >_think_. > >Now I could be dead wrong on this. I don't run the penguin so your >mileage may vary. Happy penguining (sic) . >-M > > >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archiv at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5058474376898715827==-- From phil@stokes.demon.co.uk Sat Feb 6 05:18:57 1999 From: phil@stokes.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: SuSE 6.0 bug: Acrobat plugin for Netscape Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 05:18:57 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BBB3C1.F5A6CD76@epinet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5573118592298174727==" --===============5573118592298174727== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Rachel Greenham wrote: >=20 > Andreas Gerstlauer wrote: > >=20 > Actually /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib > ^ > > I had the same problem and tried it with a link to libc.so.5 > > in the /lib directory. Bad idea, netscape crashes when trying > > to load a PDF document. >=20 > yep. >=20 > > Luckily I found an article in the German support database about > > the problem. Solution: disable the nppdf.so plugin and revert > > to executing "acroread" external to netscape for PDF docs >=20 > Oh poo. >=20 > It was working on SuSE 6.0 beta as well... There's a Netscape update for 6.0 on SuSE's ftp server that apparently "works better with libc5 plugins". I haven't tried it yet - looks like 6.0 should be arriving here Monday or Tuesday next week :) Phil --=20 Philip Stokes Email: phil(a)stokes.demon.co.uk Fax: +44 (0)870 164 1242 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5573118592298174727==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Sat Feb 6 07:12:54 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] HUMOR: New OSI seven layer model Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 21:12:54 -1000 Message-ID: <36BBEB76.E8CDDEB3@iname.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2471004089280954903==" --===============2471004089280954903== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The new OSI seven layer model exposed: http://www.europa.com/~dogman/osi/> (Sorry, Barbara, I had to pass this on.) George - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2471004089280954903==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Sat Feb 6 09:00:05 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] New Linux User Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 23:00:05 -1000 Message-ID: <36BC0495.E9A02732@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <90D7336CE2B9D211A18408002BB777096B97A6@ctrl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1318556833909252645==" --===============1318556833909252645== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Delbaere, Tim wrote: >=20 > Can anyone recommend some good book's for getting to grips with Linux? And my $0.02: The book that comes with SuSE is good, and "The No B.S. Guide to Linux" is good. --=20 George - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1318556833909252645==-- From birgitt@hamburg.citde.net Sat Feb 6 09:39:19 1999 From: birgitt@hamburg.citde.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Are there archives of this list on the web ? Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 09:39:19 +0000 Message-ID: <36BC0DC7.96CFDBD8@hamburg.citde.net> In-Reply-To: <99020614012302.02528@madeleine> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3039538611338693090==" --===============3039538611338693090== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject line says it all. Thanks. B.Funk - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3039538611338693090==-- From lunaslyd@pacbell.net Sat Feb 6 12:10:05 1999 From: lunaslyd@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Recomended laptops Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 04:10:05 -0800 Message-ID: <99020604164100.02676@sterling> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2782449895167516379==" --===============2782449895167516379== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. I am seriously looking into a laptop and I'd like to ask for recommendations. I want something with at least a PII 266, 64MB and *at least* a 6GB drive. Linux compatablility is of the utmost importance and FreeBSD compatability would be a bonus. Thanks in advance. -- lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * * =20 In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is *=20 getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is =20 stupidity. * -Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas * =20 * * * * * - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2782449895167516379==-- From dieguillo@usa.net Sat Feb 6 12:53:26 1999 From: dieguillo@usa.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ORACLE 8.0.5 and SuSE 6 Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:53:26 +0100 Message-ID: <99020614012302.02528@madeleine> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5449133790022046086==" --===============5449133790022046086== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 I had ORACLE 8.0.5. p.e. running on my SuSE 5.3 box. Now I have upgraded to SuSE 6, do I need opatch.rmp? I suppose I don't.=20 But maybe the file oracle.patch included in that rmp is still needed for installing the Oracle Intelligent Agent. I say this because Oracle Intelligent Agent didn't install completely until I patched it with oracle.patch. After doing this, svrmgrl seems to work, I can do a "connect internal" but wh= en I try to create a new database, the script (which worked with SuSE 5.3) hangs. Can this be related with the fact of using oracle.patch over SuSE 6? --=20 Diego Berea Cabaleiro Dieguillo(a)usa.net Diego(a)fadesa.es UIN: 17297138 Powered by SuSE Linux 5.3 kernel 2.2.1 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5449133790022046086==-- From dieguillo@usa.net Sat Feb 6 13:01:28 1999 From: dieguillo@usa.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Interbase 4 and TCP_NO_DELAY Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 14:01:28 +0100 Message-ID: <99020614060804.02528@madeleine> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3994764011121292161==" --===============3994764011121292161== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, We have a SuSE 5.3 server with Borland Interbase 4 When we use the TCP_NO_DELAY option, Interbase is much faster, it works as fa= st as ORACLE 8. But clients using windows 95 hang and crash lots of times.=20 Someone told us that win98 clients don't have this problem, and also told us that win 95 clients have the same problem with Interbase 5. Have you heard about this? -- Diego Berea Cabaleiro Dieguillo(a)usa.net Diego(a)fadesa.es UIN: 17297138 Powered by SuSE Linux 5.3 kernel 2.2.1 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3994764011121292161==-- From naurgrim@karn.org Sat Feb 6 14:16:11 1999 From: naurgrim@karn.org To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ATI Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 14:16:11 +0000 Message-ID: <99020614311400.00732@cranky> In-Reply-To: <36BBA291.55BC194@lightlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2159575174528812557==" --===============2159575174528812557== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 06 Feb 1999, Fred A. Miller wrote: >Well, the Adaptec 7890 controller may be supported in 6.0, now if only >the ATI Rage Pro 3D which is imbedded on Dell Poweredge 2300s is >supported, because it sure isn't in 5.3. Anyone know? Got something that might help you. I'm running an ATI 3D Rage IIC under 5.3. I've never been able to make it work using sax, but if you run XF86Config, use the Mach64 server, and under detailed card setup there is an area to enter options, where I insert a "ChipID 0x4755" statement.=20 This can also be done manually in your XF86Config file, like so: Section "Device" Identifier "Primary Card" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "ATI Mach64" ChipId 0x4755 HTH, I know ATI has made many variations on this chip, and I found this little trick at xfree86.org deep in some of the documentation... -- The modern child will answer you back before you've said anything. -- Laurence J. Peter - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2159575174528812557==-- From birgitt@hamburg.citde.net Sat Feb 6 14:17:31 1999 From: birgitt@hamburg.citde.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Sorry Re: [SuSE Linux] Are there archives of this list on the web ? Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 14:17:31 +0000 Message-ID: <36BC4EFB.B2D6B435@hamburg.citde.net> In-Reply-To: <36BC0DC7.96CFDBD8@hamburg.citde.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0452188511142530632==" --===============0452188511142530632== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Birgitt Funk wrote: >=20 > Subject line says it all. Thanks. > B.Funk > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> orry, I must be drunk. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0452188511142530632==-- From camst65+@pitt.edu Sat Feb 6 14:37:33 1999 From: camst65+@pitt.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 09:37:33 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7369112342899670161==" --===============7369112342899670161== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree with pretty much everything said. But, let me say that the average J= oe computer user doesn't like this sorta talk. By the very fact that we are all reading a mailing list, we are already much different than the vast majority = of computer users, and potential Linux users, out there. The average Joe hears "cheap/free" and "powerful" in conjuncton with Linux. From this, they don't want to make any choices of flavor, they just want Linux installed as easily = and running as transparently (up to some point) as possible. So, while we all sit back and agree about things in theory, and about how this or that will or will not affect various distbns, I think that things will not go this way. T= he average Joe (and big $$) drives the market (hence, microslop). So, this brings us back to the fact that like it or not, RedHat and their buddies are on a track wholly different than the others; one in which they have paid some attention to detail, at least as regards image and the like and being involved with the "right" people. I know this does not a good product make. . .but good products aren't what people spend millions on every year (again., witness microslop). But hey, I am still rooting for Linux generally, and especially for SuSE. But SuSE can't even keep a website maintained and up to date (6.0?), so how can they possibly keep the uneducated masses even vagu= ely happy. . . .I fear they can't. Just wait until RH spends a little time and we= ll funded effort on German distbns. . . .I think SuSE's claim to German fame will quickly fall by the wayside too. . . .$$$ knows no borders. . . ..boo hoo. = =20 On 06-Feb-99 Michael Johnson wrote: >> Personally I don't know what to think. I like SuSE, I like RedHat and next >> month I will also be trying out Debian. I don't think I am willing, at this >> time, to make any definite choice.=20 >> They all have nice and irritating features. >> And I don't think there is any reason, at the moment, to switch from >> one to the other (except 'personal compatibility and taste' reasons). >=20 > I agree. I have mixed reactions to the 'competitive' attitude users have > about the dists. I think most of the time, people prefer dists for > personal reasons of taste, as opposed to reasons that are primarily of a > logistic nature. I think some of this creates a hostile and divisive > climate. I think S.u.S.E., RedHat ( especially now ), Debian, are all good > distributions. The main thing that is needed is more common ground > between distributions of Linux so as to > merge with that larger world that has no vested interest in seeing Linux > succeed, so that the growth can continue in a positive direction. I think, > at the end of this we could have Linuxes with distinct personalities and > flavours that retain their technical 'personality' while at the same time > acknowledging those things that need to happen across the board to promote > universal acceptance of Linux as a platform solution for a variety of > services. I'll love it when the 'hacker' and 'wild man' image that still > infests ( bad choice of words, sorry ) Linux--is traded in for one of even > more increasing acceptance and respectability, not just for 'special > interests' but for potentially everyone that wants to benefit from the > technical superiorty (IMHO ) of inexpensive Unices for big companies and > even single user workstations. > -M ------------------------------------------ E-Mail: Chris Martin =20 Date: 06-Feb-99 Time: 09:24:54 ** Powered by SuSE Linux. You want it?! **=20 http://www= .suse.com> | http://www.linux.org> ------------------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7369112342899670161==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Sat Feb 6 14:57:10 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 14:57:10 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990206145710.00b14dc0@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <36BC6D84.FFC69893@iname.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6658108622048623105==" --===============6658108622048623105== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree here somewhat. Redhat is much better at the marketing. Just look in ony barnes and noble or compuse. You will find there box , as well as there utilities/add in box on the shelf.=20 That red hat allways jumps out at you. I am new to linux , What realy swayed me to Suse was that they were the only one to offer telephone support. They need some work here as well. When I called them regarding getting the modem and internet working with only text mode (so I could download the xfree86 3.3.3) all I got was " that a lot of work" , "read the book" . However I felt that the unsaid message was your on your own.=20 As I said , I am new to this , and now realize that next to hardware configuration , that modem/Internet connection is the bigest problem. On all other occasions , suse suport has been on the money. This list I have found to be even more valuable that the suse suport. It seams that the folks here are working on the cuting edge , and are much more willing to tackel obscure/unpopular hardware and technical issues. It obviose that they are much more technical , and have realy delved into the os ect... I would gladly pay another $50.00 for rock solid suport , even more , if it saves me time , which in the end saves money. They need more fit and polish , and better marketing, The only retial place I could find that had suse was Borders. Several on the shelf , beside caldera , redhat and some other stuff ( debian I think). What would realy help , is a rock solid FAQ for hardware,os , and other issues, DONE EXCLUSIVELY FOR SUSE. This will save time , and help with the questions that keep comeing up every few weeks ect...=20 My .02 cents worth. Boy am I gald I picked SUSE. At 06:27 AM 2/6/1999 -1000, George Toft wrote: > >Chris Martin wrote: >>=20 >> I agree with pretty much everything said. But, let me say that the average Joe >> computer user doesn't like this sorta talk. By the very fact that we are all >> reading a mailing list, we are already much different than the vast majority of >> computer users, and potential Linux users, out there. The average Joe hears >> "cheap/free" and "powerful" in conjuncton with Linux. From this, they don't >> want to make any choices of flavor, they just want Linux installed as easily and >> running as transparently (up to some point) as possible. So, while we all >> sit back and agree about things in theory, and about how this or that will or >> will not affect various distbns, I think that things will not go this way. The >> average Joe (and big $$) drives the market (hence, microslop). So, this >> brings us back to the fact that like it or not, RedHat and their buddies are >> on a track wholly different than the others; one in which they have paid some >> attention to detail, at least as regards image and the like and being involved >> with the "right" people. I know this does not a good product make. . .but >> good products aren't what people spend millions on every year (again., >> witness microslop). But hey, I am still rooting for Linux generally, and >> especially for SuSE. But SuSE can't even keep a website maintained and up >> to date (6.0?), so how can they possibly keep the uneducated masses even vaguely >> happy. . . .I fear they can't. Just wait until RH spends a little time and well >> funded effort on German distbns. . . .I think SuSE's claim to German fame will >> quickly fall by the wayside too. . . .$$$ knows no borders. . . ..boo hoo. > > >Well said - I've been preaching that for months,=20 >but much less eloquently. > >George >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archiv at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6658108622048623105==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Sat Feb 6 15:07:40 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:07:40 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990206150740.00b12514@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1574000287283133134==" --===============1574000287283133134== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 04:4 >If it goes that way before LSB or the like is ratified between the major >distributors, then of course RH will be the standard where LSB-type >issues are concerned. >And, if that happens, then the choice between distributions (assumed to >conform to the RH base standard) will turn on the suitability for you >of what comes on top of the standard base system. >There are many many possible ways a distribution can try to stand >out as different (and more suitable for whatever) from others. >A generic dimension is soundness, consistency and reliability. Regardless >of basic structure, RH in the past has skidded on the ice while trying to >turn corners too fast. SuSE, so far, seems to have avoided this trap >(though I'm not sure about 5.3 and my jury is still hearing evidence on >6.0). Also, SuSE has made a name for including an exceptional variety of >applications, all compiled consistently with the distribution. Standardization is needed. At leas as far as adding packages , ect... This way you know that whatever software you install , You are certio\an that it will install and work. No susrpises. No whait for the XYZ version to come out.It like walk into a stre , if it has a win95/8 loge , you know it will work. Conseptualy. >And, above all, don't forget good documentation. SuSE has not done so well >at this as it not only should, but could have done. Internationalisation >applies to this area too. More fit and polish. All that is needed is a realy good suse FAQ/HOWTO . By that I mean an that is complte and sstarts out with basics , then goes int detial. I must admit that there Manuale is very good , but it is sometimes too technical , and makes assumtions you are familiar with suse/linux and are a programer. We need a faq/how to just like what is avialable for linux but for suse. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1574000287283133134==-- From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Sat Feb 6 15:36:28 1999 From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Toshiba Libretto Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:36:28 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7776884590491881938==" --===============7776884590491881938== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All; A friend was given a Toshiba Libretto with a broke screen. Someone dropped it :(. It's running Windows CE. As soon as we can fix it we want to put Liunx on it. (I hope) There are two problems with it. First when he starts it up it demands a password. This password seems to be in the BIOS. Without it the whole computer locks up. Does anyone know how to get around this? It seems to be wanting the password before it even boots W$ CE.=20 Next, does anyone know where to get a replacement screen for a Libretto, and what it costs? We got it from a guy who got it from the first owner, so the password is completely gone. :( TIA! J I M ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany=20 hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!! Micro$oft -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) ---------------------------------------------- "If a President of the United States ever lied to the=20 American people he should resign." Bill Clinton, 1974 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7776884590491881938==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Sat Feb 6 16:27:48 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 06:27:48 -1000 Message-ID: <36BC6D84.FFC69893@iname.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5183784265236689642==" --===============5183784265236689642== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris Martin wrote: >=20 > I agree with pretty much everything said. But, let me say that the average= Joe > computer user doesn't like this sorta talk. By the very fact that we are all > reading a mailing list, we are already much different than the vast majorit= y of > computer users, and potential Linux users, out there. The average Joe hears > "cheap/free" and "powerful" in conjuncton with Linux. From this, they don't > want to make any choices of flavor, they just want Linux installed as easil= y and > running as transparently (up to some point) as possible. So, while we all > sit back and agree about things in theory, and about how this or that will = or > will not affect various distbns, I think that things will not go this way. = The > average Joe (and big $$) drives the market (hence, microslop). So, this > brings us back to the fact that like it or not, RedHat and their buddies are > on a track wholly different than the others; one in which they have paid so= me > attention to detail, at least as regards image and the like and being invol= ved > with the "right" people. I know this does not a good product make. . .but > good products aren't what people spend millions on every year (again., > witness microslop). But hey, I am still rooting for Linux generally, and > especially for SuSE. But SuSE can't even keep a website maintained and up > to date (6.0?), so how can they possibly keep the uneducated masses even va= guely > happy. . . .I fear they can't. Just wait until RH spends a little time and = well > funded effort on German distbns. . . .I think SuSE's claim to German fame w= ill > quickly fall by the wayside too. . . .$$$ knows no borders. . . ..boo hoo. Well said - I've been preaching that for months,=20 but much less eloquently. George - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5183784265236689642==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Sat Feb 6 16:29:52 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Are there archives of this list on the web ? Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 06:29:52 -1000 Message-ID: <36BC6E00.DB6D2E68@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <36BC0DC7.96CFDBD8@hamburg.citde.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6070980068444576588==" --===============6070980068444576588== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On the SuSE web site, broken up by month. George - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6070980068444576588==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Sat Feb 6 16:44:56 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:44:56 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1540553360538528400==" --===============1540553360538528400== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06-Feb-99 Chris Martin wrote: > [snip] > The average Joe hears "cheap/free" and "powerful" in conjuncton with > Linux. From this, they don't want to make any choices of flavor, they > just want Linux installed as easily and running as transparently (up > to some point) as possible. > [snip] > The average Joe (and big $$) drives the market (hence, microslop). So, > this brings us back to the fact that like it or not, RedHat and their > buddies are on a track wholly different than the others; one in which > they have paid some attention to detail, at least as regards image and > the like and being involved with the "right" people. I know this does > not a good product make ... but good products aren't what people spend > millions on every year (again, witness microslop). > [snip] > Just wait until RH spends a little time and well funded effort on > German distbns. . . .I think SuSE's claim to German fame will > quickly fall by the wayside too. . . .$$$ knows no borders. . . ..boo > hoo. =20 Chris's brutal realism rings plausible. I'm not convinced that the future will be quite so deterministic, but that's where it points. If it goes that way before LSB or the like is ratified between the major distributors, then of course RH will be the standard where LSB-type issues are concerned. And, if that happens, then the choice between distributions (assumed to conform to the RH base standard) will turn on the suitability for you of what comes on top of the standard base system. There are many many possible ways a distribution can try to stand out as different (and more suitable for whatever) from others. A generic dimension is soundness, consistency and reliability. Regardless of basic structure, RH in the past has skidded on the ice while trying to turn corners too fast. SuSE, so far, seems to have avoided this trap (though I'm not sure about 5.3 and my jury is still hearing evidence on 6.0). Also, SuSE has made a name for including an exceptional variety of applications, all compiled consistently with the distribution. Another way SuSE would be very well placed to stand out is in international support. Here in Europe we *know* about having xenophone neighbours; our exiled friends across the Atlantic seem to have a notion about non-English languages rather like our notion of the far side of the moon: we know it's there, but we don't really know what it's like (witness the WordPerfect-8/7/6 fiasco with non-English characters). Again, a distribution may pay special attention to specific application areas. SuSE, for instance, was a pioneer in getting office and database suites onto the distribution CD. A Europe-based distribution can exploit local fraternities: there are a lot of good European software houses devloping important applications; a "special relationship" with these would again be an advantage. Other areas to watch out for as Linux catches the world's attention are *real* DTP, graphics (including scanning), and CAD. And, above all, don't forget good documentation. SuSE has not done so well at this as it not only should, but could have done. Internationalisation applies to this area too. All the above would remain true if RH failed to become the "de facto" standard and LSB was ratified -- with even more force, in fact, because then *by*definition* there would be no basic difference between standard Linus distributions, and things like the above would be the *only* ways one distribution could expect to stand out. And I personally think that would be a better day for the world in general. A cessation of competition on "my basic Linux is better than yours: filesystem/install/sysadmin/upgrade/libs etc" and proper attention to providing useful functionality on top of a base system which *simply*works*, and is straightforward to use, is the way to go. Best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 06-Feb-99 Time: 16:44:56 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1540553360538528400==-- From hlarons@ComCAT.COM Sat Feb 6 17:08:22 1999 From: hlarons@ComCAT.COM To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Beep when mail is received Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:08:22 -0500 Message-ID: <19990206120822.A253@BeagleDog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9087251506986656688==" --===============9087251506986656688== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I receive mail from my ISP's POP3 server via fetchmail->procmail-> various mboxes. When mail is deposited in my spool; i.e.;=20 /var/spool/mail/hlarons, my machine beeps, *but not every time.* I can't find anything in the fetchmail or procmail config files that=20 might cause this. Is the beep from SuSE (5.2) at work? Why isn't the=20 behavior consistent? Howard Arons --=20 Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.33 Communications by Mutt 0.93.2 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9087251506986656688==-- From copernico@tin.it Sat Feb 6 18:08:43 1999 From: copernico@tin.it To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Leafnode Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 19:08:43 +0100 Message-ID: <99020619100002.00693@copernico> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4409508054986641529==" --===============4409508054986641529== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wish to thank all who helped me to make leafnode work. It does work fine no= w. Bye. AS - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4409508054986641529==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Sat Feb 6 19:44:30 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel 2.2 and Penguin Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 11:44:30 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001a01be5189$0cde0980$7b409783@cleo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2786909239361817040==" --===============2786909239361817040== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for sharing this info. Like I said, I don't know much about this Penguin, thing.... sounds much simpler than I originally thought based on what I saw on kernel On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Doug Gray wrote: > I have the penguin when i boot up. All i did was when i installed kernel > version 2.1.130 with slackware 3.6, it had a place for my Matrox Millennium > g200 card. It didn't ever ask me if i wanted the Penguin, just if i wanted > to enable all of the features for my video card. I'm pretty sure it has to > do with the video settings of your card, the buffering that was mentioned > before is a good guess. >=20 >=20 > > > >On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Yates, Larry wrote: > >> Seriously, I had other reasons for checking out > >> the 2.2 kernel, but I 'really' wanted to see > >> that penguin... > >> What did I do wrong? > >You have to check out the docs..I am probably forgetting..but I _believe_ > >you have to enable it when you run make config/make menuconfig or > >whatever. Then you have to set it up in lilo. It won't just show the > >penguin by default just because you have the new kernel. Also your mobo > >has to support it. This is what I recall: > > > >configure vesafb into the kernel, add vga=3Dask to /etc/lilo.conf, press 3= 05 > >when asked for the mode. If you get invalid mode it's due to the mobo, I > >_think_. > > > >Now I could be dead wrong on this. I don't run the penguin so your > >mileage may vary. Happy penguining (sic) . > >-M > > > > > >- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > >archiv at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > > >=20 > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2786909239361817040==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Sat Feb 6 20:01:45 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:01:45 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BC6D84.FFC69893@iname.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9067893972405228742==" --===============9067893972405228742== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, George Toft wrote: > Chris Martin wrote: > > funded effort on German distbns. . . .I think SuSE's claim to German fame= will > > quickly fall by the wayside too. . . .$$$ knows no borders. . . ..boo ho= o. >=20 > Well said - I've been preaching that for months,=20 > but much less eloquently. >=20 > George Yeh, except I've never been to Germany, and their advertising and market control may look much different there than it does here from an American/Canadian perspective. I suspect that in Germany S.u.S.E. _is_ RedHat. I think we NAers are biased by our perspective and tend to _ASSUME_ that because the marketting here for S.u.S.E. seems less strong than RedHat that it is the same type of image in Europe and I think, at least in my case, that _is_ an assumption, nothing more. I do think the tactics in NA will have to change--- I think RedHat has exemplary marketting. Just the freshmeat/slashdot association guarantees for most people at least one 'hint' to use RedHat everyday. And of course we have the Gnome project. Just the fact that many of these pages have RedHat logos on them, as opposed to BSD, Caldera, Debian, or S.u.S.E. logos is an 'influence'. I mean RedHat is an everyday word in the Linux community because they are so closely aligned with things that are of interest on a DAILY basis to Linux users. S.u.S.E. and Caldera do stuff of great importance as well, but you just don't have occurance to hear and think about things like X-Servers etc on a daily basis unless you are involved in development that relates to that. And if you look at things like LJ, there seems to be one mention of S.u.S.E. for every 5 for RedHat.=20 There are lots of 'psychological' factors, I feel, like the simplicity of the logo and the constant use of the color red, the doggone sheer volume of REPETITION of such a simple name as 'RedHat' that makes it easier to remember than most company names, because it _is_ simple and we here it more often, that also impacts the consumer... anyway,as you can see,.. I'm rambling. It's obviously time for my morning coffee before I bore you further...:-)=20 -M - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9067893972405228742==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Sat Feb 6 20:14:01 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:14:01 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8654391428512047583==" --===============8654391428512047583== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think one good thing would be if S.u.S.E. became more involved in things that impact ALL Linux users--not just S.u.S.E. users on a daily basis in noteable ways. I think the contribution to the Linux community by the other dists, is much more subtle and less mundane ( though important ) than RedHats. I think there needs to be stuff coming from S.u.S.E. that's just plain fun oriented and that participates in NA with joe linux user on a non-dist oriented level ( this doesn't apply to dosemu, X dev, and the S.u.S.E. homepage). Even a S.u.S.E. sponsored non-S.u.S.E. specific Linux/Technology Newspage or Software page might be nice, just for the exposure. This would get people out there to see the 'sponsored by S.u.S.E.' type logo on a daily basis, and would have that impact of embedding S.u.S.E. into North American consciousness just like Redhat and Coca Cola. I love RH's Coca-Cola like ad approach, where you just hear it so damn much you just accept it. :-)=20 -M - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8654391428512047583==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Sat Feb 6 20:45:53 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 20:45:53 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure?> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4028911892979141015==" --===============4028911892979141015== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06-Feb-99 Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: > (Ted Harding) wrote: >> And, above all, don't forget good documentation. SuSE has not done so >> well >> at this as it not only should, but could have done. >> Internationalisation >> applies to this area too. >=20 > I disagree. SuSE's docs are as good as the best and better than any > others I've seen. What we are talking about here is the book that > comes with the commerical release. It is as good as the only other > commerical release book I've seen: Red Hat's. It is as good as if not > better than the book, "Learn Linux in 24 hours", by Bill Ball. The > rest of the documentation in Linux is centered around the LDP HOWTO's, > MAN and INFO pages and the book publishers. No one gets paid for > documenting the day-to-day changes in the kernel and apps and in the > volunteer based GPL movement that is a trade off that will always > exist. Publishers in each country handle their own needs. This is a moot point. SuSE's docs may be better than RH's, but IMO they could stand a lot of improvement (I only know the English version). For instance: I run 5.1, though I have a 5.2 box on the shelf. I wanted to get faxing going, so out came the 5.1 book. Not much help; very incomplete. I took the 5.2 book, and found it much better, though still incomplete and I had to fill in a lot of details by guesswork and manpage -- successfully as it happened. IMO the 5.1 description should have been at least as good as the 5.2 one in the first place, and even the 5.2 should have been better. When I first installed 5.1, I read through the SuSE book. It looked good, but again it was not laid out right for a "start here and work through" installation guide (in fact, the last Red Hat I installed, 4.1, had a book that was very good from this point of view). But I've done a good few Linux installations, so I just put the CD and the boot floppy in, and took things as they came. It worked (though not first time), and well, but what I found myself doing was not like the sequence the book described. FAQs, Howtos and man pages are OK once you're well into running the system and familiar with the general territory. But the way the information is dispersed over several places which are not necessarily coordinated is not at all helpful for new users, and can cause problems even for experienced and knowledgeable users. I'm not suggesting a complete set of printed documentation for the system. That would be like the 3-shelves-full of manuals that come with commercial UNIX distributions, the cost of maintaining which in proper order must be a perceptible fraction of what you pay for the software. But a thorough, accurate and comprehensible "beginners manual" which covers basic installation and setup in every detail, and goes on to "what every Linux(/UNIX) user/sysadmin needs to know for day-to-day work", would be a blessing for beginners. Of course, so long as Linux distributions are not tied to an LSB-like standard such a book may be difficult to keep up-to-date, which is yet another argument for laying down a solid base. Then you could usefully spend some time on getting the "basic book" right once and for all. The reason why generic Linux books are not universally useful is that unless they cover all the details which are different for every major distribution (and I have never seen one that even tries) they will be (possibly) accurate for one distribution (usually Red Hat), and will inevitably -- at some point -- leave the beginner with a different distribution lacking needed guidance somewhere along the line. Of course the unstructured world of GPL volunteers cannot be _expected_ to provide something like this in the first place, let alone keep it up to date, even though many of them in fact try very hard and often succeed very well. On the other hand, an organisation which creates and sells a Linux distribution is different. They can, in principle, afford to pay to get it done properly. This is an important point for the acceptability of Linux in the "paying world". These people could often pay for "real UNIX" if they wanted to. In fact many of them perceive the true benefits of Open Source software (ultimately: reliability, quality, functionality, rapid development and problem-fixing, source code availability and the possibility of controlling your own computing environment, the ever-helpful Internet community, etc). The fact that the software itself is free of cost at source is a bonus (and is a major factor in the worldwide uptake of Linux). Distribution on a relatively cheap CD set is "value added" and people are happy to pay for this (especially if the alternative is a solid week on-line by modem). A good reference manual is also value added, and it need only add say 50% to the cost of the CD set. It would save its cost many times over in the time-equivalent lost in getting to know the system in traditional ways (Howtos, FAQs, queries to mailing lists etc); and these people can also appreciate that. Sorry to argue at such length. I think Linux is "at the cusp" at this moment: if the moment is seized well, and timely, Linux will go from strength to strength. If the attitude remains (which I have often seen in replies to queries) "you're not paying for the software, you can't expect the sort of support you'd get if you were", then it will continue to have a bumpy ride. No-one, of course, will ever have to pay for the software as such. But a lot of people would be prepared to pay for the support encapsulated in _good_ documentation. Current Linux books are far from ideal, but people still buy them. They would even more readily buy a better one at the same price. Best wishes, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 06-Feb-99 Time: 20:37:58 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4028911892979141015==-- From bparker@dc.net Sat Feb 6 21:05:17 1999 From: bparker@dc.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] SATAN on SuSE Linux Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:05:17 -0500 Message-ID: <000301be5214$65ebfa60$0100a8c0@sandrab> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8862663031907309101==" --===============8862663031907309101== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello: Has anyone successfully run SATAN on SuSE Linux? The O'Reilly book says there are problems running on Linux; *BSD will run it, tho. FYI: The SATAN website is here: <http://www.fish.com/~zen/satan/satan.html<= /A>> Bill Parker, - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8862663031907309101==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Sat Feb 6 21:16:04 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Cobol on linux Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:16:04 -0500 Message-ID: <36BCB114.5E2C5582@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4659800522630494552==" --===============4659800522630494552== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am looking at a the Fujitsu cobol compiler for PC's. They have a free version that will run on Solaris 2.X Hp-UX 9.0 Hp-UX 10.X Will any of these run under Linux, and if so which would run best? Thanks - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4659800522630494552==-- From jblosser@firinn.org Sat Feb 6 22:21:19 1999 From: jblosser@firinn.org To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Toshiba Libretto Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 17:21:19 -0500 Message-ID: <19990206172119.L2810@firinn.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6112447859666005637==" --===============6112447859666005637== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable James (Jim) Hatridge [hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de] wrote: > A friend was given a Toshiba Libretto with a broke screen.... >=20 > There are two problems with it. First when he starts it up it demands a > password. This password seems to be in the BIOS. Without it the whole > computer locks up. Does anyone know how to get around this? It seems to be > wanting the password before it even boots W$ CE.=20 The documentation for my Toshiba Tecra says that if you set a 'hardware password' (as they call it) and forget it you need to take it to a Toshiba service center to get it reset, if I remember correctly. I'm assuming this means there is a jumper or something you can pull/set. > Next, does anyone know where to get a replacement screen for a Libretto, > and what it costs? Well Toshiba would be one place, I guarantee it will cost a lot. Replacement laptop displays are usually around the same price as the laptop. --=20 Jeremy Blosser | jblosser(a)firinn.org | http://jblosser.firinn= .org/> -----------------+-------------------------+------------------------------ "Would you fight to the death, for that which you love? In a cause surely hopeless ...for that which you love?" -- D. McKiernan, _Dragondoom_PGP signature --===============6112447859666005637==-- From skoper@mediaone.net Sat Feb 6 23:00:24 1999 From: skoper@mediaone.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] What is Dynamic-IP? Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 18:00:24 -0500 Message-ID: <006a01be5224$7e3bc860$030aa8c0@CYRIX2.alembic.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8109320950087155405==" --===============8109320950087155405== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I see a setting in the SuSE configuration for DYN_IP, but it isn't addressed in *my* manual. What does it refer to, and what does it do? - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8109320950087155405==-- From hagen@labpar.fcfm.buap.mx Sat Feb 6 23:34:39 1999 From: hagen@labpar.fcfm.buap.mx To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] kernel 2.0.36...! Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:34:39 -0800 Message-ID:MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7472886093865450079==" --===============7472886093865450079== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi!. im newbie at this!. And you are right!, i got a problem here!, while compiling the linux-2.0.36.suse.tgz! (released at jan 2# !), appear this: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1' :No such file or directory cpp: output pipe has been closed the only thing near to "cc1" is "/usr/bin/cc" where "cc" is a link to "gcc"! If i need "cc1", where can i get it!? =20 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7472886093865450079==-- From alex@physical36.chem.ufl.edu Sat Feb 6 23:37:41 1999 From: alex@physical36.chem.ufl.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Beowulf clusters with SuSE software? Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 18:37:41 -0500 Message-ID: <199902062337.SAA15047@physical36.chem.ufl.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2079330972439551462==" --===============2079330972439551462== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear friends, I have been using and playing with SuSE 5.3 (off of the ftp server) for the past half year or so and am planning to get an official 6.0 package soon (as soon as the SuSE-USA folks can get me an e-mail quote for the purchasing department of my university, but that's a different story ...). What prompts my post to the list right now is the following message which was forwarded from a friend here at UF: --- SuSE will introduce a line of Linux cluster systems at CeBIT Feb 4th, 04:08:28 An Alpha Linux distribution will also be released soon. by Dwight Johnson According to the German news service, Heise.de, SuSE is expanding its products with a line of Linux cluster computer systems named SALT (SuSE Advanced Linux Technology) which will be introduced at CeBIT in Hannover March 18-24. Products of the SALT line will be custom built as complete solutions to serve the requirements of higher education institutions and industrial research and development divisions. According to Richard Jelinek of SuSE, the software cluster technology is open-sourced and based on the same techniques and tools as Beowulf but adapted to the SuSE distribution node management and extended with some more applications. Jelinek went on to tell Linux Today that SuSE's Linux distribution for Alpha (the AXP-distribution) will also be introduced at CeBIT. This will be a product of its own. When this distribution is stable, AXP-Clusters will be added to SuSE's product line. SuSE Linux for the Alpha processor will be released soon after CeBIT. --- This news is quite interesting to me since together with a couple of friends we are trying to set up a Beowulf cluster here at UF, that will eventually consist of a cluster of about 16 486's (see http://florida.linuxusers.org/beowulf.htm= l>). We would like to seriously look at the SuSE cluster software package for our application, particularly if it turns out to be more advanced and/or more adaptable than the RedHat packages. I guess, my questions to the list and the friendly SuSE-folks who are listening are the following: 1. What are the experiences with the existing SuSE Beowulf packages that come with SuSE 5.3 and 6.0? In particular has anybody tried to parallelize a couple of 486's using them? 2. Where can we get more info on the software that will run on the SALT line of servers? In which respects does it differ from the already available Beowulf packages? 3. Is there any information yet about the cost of the software/support package? Best regards, Alex Angerhofer. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2079330972439551462==-- From medavid@ix.netcom.com Sun Feb 7 00:00:52 1999 From: medavid@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Toshiba Libretto Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:00:52 -0800 Message-ID: <01be522c$ed157e40$8242d8ce@win98> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Toshiba Libretto> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5202592360444960946==" --===============5202592360444960946== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim-- If it really is a Libretto, it is *not* a WinCE machine. The Libretto is just an incredibly small PC that runs Win 95, and yes, it can run Linux (or FreeBSD). To answer your questions... for a new screen, you can always call Toshiba and ask them. I do know that Toshiba replacement screens are NOT cheap. As for the password, I don't know. You might check on comp.sys.laptop and see if anyone knows the answer there. I'm no expert at portables, but it may end up that you might have to remove the internal battery and let the machine "forget" all of it's settings. Again, check on comp.sys.laptop or check the Toshiba Web site. Mark -----Original Message----- From: James (Jim) Hatridge To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 11:40 AM Subject: [SuSE Linux] Toshiba Libretto > > >Hi All; > >A friend was given a Toshiba Libretto with a broke screen. Someone dropped >it :(. It's running Windows CE. As soon as we can fix it we want to put >Liunx on it. (I hope) > >There are two problems with it. First when he starts it up it demands a >password. This password seems to be in the BIOS. Without it the whole >computer locks up. Does anyone know how to get around this? It seems to be >wanting the password before it even boots W$ CE. > >Next, does anyone know where to get a replacement screen for a Libretto, >and what it costs? > >We got it from a guy who got it from the first owner, so the password is >completely gone. :( > > >TIA! > >J >I >M >----------------------------------------- >Jim Hatridge >Germany >hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de > >Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!! > >Micro$oft -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! >(*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) >---------------------------------------------- >"If a President of the United States ever lied to the > American people he should resign." > Bill Clinton, 1974 > > >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archiv at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5202592360444960946==-- From medavid@ix.netcom.com Sun Feb 7 00:04:53 1999 From: medavid@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Cobol on linux Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:04:53 -0800 Message-ID: <01be522d$7ce76ce0$8242d8ce@win98> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Cobol on linux> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5533514393221303141==" --===============5533514393221303141== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, sorry... if they are really for those machines, then the code isn't even Intel code and thus cannot be run on Linux/Intel. I'm not sure of a free COBOL compiler for Linux. I know AcuCOBOL has a version for Linux, but they are *not* cheap (www.acucobol.com). Deskware (www.deskware.com) DOES have a Linux COBOL, but I have NO idea how good it is. Mark -----Original Message----- From: zentara To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 1:40 PM Subject: [SuSE Linux] Cobol on linux > >Hi, >I am looking at a the Fujitsu cobol compiler for >PC's. >They have a free version that will run on >Solaris 2.X >Hp-UX 9.0 >Hp-UX 10.X > >Will any of these run under Linux, and if so which >would run best? > >Thanks > >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archiv at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5533514393221303141==-- From jkx@club-internet.fr Sun Feb 7 01:22:34 1999 From: jkx@club-internet.fr To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Fonts ?? Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 02:22:34 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2765179978356089638==" --===============2765179978356089638== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I 'm looking for some fonts for using in gimp=20 I have already donloaded Shared and Freefont .. but i want more .. I search for it about 3 month .. but i only find True type font for Mac or Windows .. that doesn't work on LinuX ..=20 Please help ..me=20 And i want to know where can i find a good doc about the download of SuSE6.0 = ?? Is the french version shipped ?? --------------------------------------------------- Soif soif(a)mygale.org write 07-Feb-99 at 02:18:23 You will find my LinuX tricks and Tips at http://www.mygale.org/~soif/> --------------------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2765179978356089638==-- From mperry@basin.com Sun Feb 7 01:38:54 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Toshiba Libretto Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 17:38:54 -0800 Message-ID: <199902070138.RAA00765@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6594138384388408039==" --===============6594138384388408039== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 6 Feb, James (Jim) Hatridge wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hi All; >=20 > A friend was given a Toshiba Libretto with a broke screen. Someone dropped > it :(. It's running Windows CE. As soon as we can fix it we want to put > Liunx on it. (I hope) >=20 > There are two problems with it. First when he starts it up it demands a > password. This password seems to be in the BIOS. Without it the whole > computer locks up. Does anyone know how to get around this? It seems to be > wanting the password before it even boots W$ CE.=20 >=20 > Next, does anyone know where to get a replacement screen for a Libretto, > and what it costs? >=20 > We got it from a guy who got it from the first owner, so the password is > completely gone. :( >=20 >=20 > TIA! >=20 > J > I > M > ----------------------------------------- > Jim Hatridge > Germany=20 > hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de >=20 > Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!! >=20 > Micro$oft -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! > (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) > ---------------------------------------------- > "If a President of the United States ever lied to the=20 > American people he should resign." > Bill Clinton, 1974 >=20 >=20 > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> The libretto is not a hpc and does not run windows ce. Its just a smallish regular ole pc which can run almost anything. People I work with have librettos running linux with no problems. They also will run NT. The hardware lock or power on password may be reset by resetting the bios. On compaqs one can do a bios reset which does away with things like power on passwords. It also seems to scramble a bit more. Im not sure if librettos have this feature set. I can email a few colleagues who use librettos regularly if you want. =20 Hope this helps. --=20 Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com ------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6594138384388408039==-- From skoper@mediaone.net Sun Feb 7 02:30:59 1999 From: skoper@mediaone.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] IRQ for eth1 Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:30:59 -0500 Message-ID: <000301be5242$2afd11e0$020aa8c0@CYRIX1.alembic.ne.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2135717063075785227==" --===============2135717063075785227== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! When I boot linux (SuSE 5.3, kernel 2.0.35), eth1 is listed as using an IRQ of 9. That's what the card is set for. But when I run ifconfig. it shows eth1 as using an irq of 10. Is ifconfig detecting a conflict, and making its own workaround? I can certainly set the card to use IRQ 10, if there's some sort of conflict. It seems to work, as far as I can tell. Stan Koper - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2135717063075785227==-- From medavid@ix.netcom.com Sun Feb 7 03:06:18 1999 From: medavid@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IRQ for eth1 Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 19:06:18 -0800 Message-ID: <01be5246$d4d26860$8242d8ce@win98> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] IRQ for eth1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1682742348828143977==" --===============1682742348828143977== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I may be wrong, but isn't IRQ 9 the "PCI bridge" IRQ? Is the card PCI-based? Mark -----Original Message----- From: Stan Koper To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 7:03 PM Subject: [SuSE Linux] IRQ for eth1 > >Hi! > >When I boot linux (SuSE 5.3, kernel 2.0.35), eth1 is listed as using an IRQ >of 9. That's what the card is set for. But when I run ifconfig. it shows >eth1 as using an irq of 10. Is ifconfig detecting a conflict, and making >its own workaround? I can certainly set the card to use IRQ 10, if there's >some sort of conflict. It seems to work, as far as I can tell. > >Stan Koper > > > > > > > > > > > >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archiv at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1682742348828143977==-- From leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Sun Feb 7 06:09:53 1999 From: leonmcclatchey@homemail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Beep when mail is received Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 00:09:53 -0600 Message-ID: <36BD2E30.60B0E9C7@homemail.com> In-Reply-To: <19990206120822.A253@BeagleDog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5803808719279692480==" --===============5803808719279692480== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howard Arons wrote: > I receive mail from my ISP's POP3 server via fetchmail->procmail-> > various mboxes. When mail is deposited in my spool; i.e.; > /var/spool/mail/hlarons, my machine beeps, *but not every time.* > The only time it beeps here (Suse 5.1) under the same "configuration" is when new mail has arrived and I am in Xfree. I figure that is just the way Suse has the mail alarm set up:-) -- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com Linux User 78912 (Linux Box) Earn cash in your spare time -- blackmail your friends - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5803808719279692480==-- From bjgilger@earthlink.net Sun Feb 7 06:53:21 1999 From: bjgilger@earthlink.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Toshiba Libretto Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 22:53:21 -0800 Message-ID: <36BD3861.96CCAB2E@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <01be522c$ed157e40$8242d8ce@win98> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4868703172963910725==" --===============4868703172963910725== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just an idea -- If you like to play with the hardware, all you need to do is upgrade the BIOS chip. Pick one you like and replace the existing BIOS chip. It will not have a password until you set one. Check your local computer shows. Here, in Las Vegas, there is a "computer show" at least once a month. It is actually a swap meet for for all kinds of computer parts, pieces, and paraphenalia. You might find a Libretto with a fried board and a good screen. HTH John > -----Original Message----- > From: James (Jim) Hatridge > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 11:40 AM > Subject: [SuSE Linux] Toshiba Libretto > > > > > > >Hi All; > >There are two problems with it. First when he starts it up it demands a > >password. This password seems to be in the BIOS. Without it the whole > >computer locks up. Does anyone know how to get around this? It seems to be > >wanting the password before it even boots W$ CE. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4868703172963910725==-- From kar@webline.dk Sun Feb 7 08:48:47 1999 From: kar@webline.dk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] The SuSE images Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 09:48:47 +0100 Message-ID: <199902070848.JAA28785@bohr.webline.dk> In-Reply-To: <36BD3861.96CCAB2E@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6892473250314873178==" --===============6892473250314873178== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought I had this information somewhere, but I can't find it. The 'funny' images that accompany SuSE Linux (in 5.2 it was blue, in 5.3 green), can they be downloaded from somewhere? - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6892473250314873178==-- From paspartu@uni.net Sun Feb 7 09:56:01 1999 From: paspartu@uni.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Fonts ?? Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 10:56:01 +0100 Message-ID: <99020711073900.00311@kamikazen> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6630915797966938461==" --===============6630915797966938461== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 07 Feb 1999, SoiF wrote: >I 'm looking for some fonts for using in gimp=20 > >I have already donloaded Shared and Freefont .. but i want more .. > >I search for it about 3 month .. but i only find True type font for Mac or >Windows .. that doesn't work on LinuX ..=20 To handle TrueType Fonts you should install a font server like xfstt (X Font Server True Type) or xfsft (X Font Server Free Type). The former is a bit eas= ier to configure. Once you have the font server installed you can use windows TrueType fonts (of course, you cannot achieve this result magically, there is= a bit of configuration work). I don't have the URLs right now, but a simple search with the keyword "xfstt" or "xfsft" will help. Maurizio - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6630915797966938461==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Sun Feb 7 10:18:38 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] What is Dynamic-IP? Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 11:18:38 +0100 Message-ID: <36BD687E.EF60EDD0@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: <006a01be5224$7e3bc860$030aa8c0@CYRIX2.alembic.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4764672036111841849==" --===============4764672036111841849== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stan Koper wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I see a setting in the SuSE configuration for DYN_IP, but it isn't > addressed in *my* manual. What does it refer to, and what does it do? >=20 > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> You=C5=BDre probably talking about this setting: brauki(a)marvin:/home/brauki > cat /etc/rc.config|grep DYN IP_DYNIP=3D"yes" brauki(a)marvin:/home/brauki >=20 It=C5=BDs used for ISDN connections, because there is a problem if you dial in and get an IP assigned (=3Ddyn IP). Basicly, the ISDN device is up and configured with *any* dummy IP and after the connection is made, the real IP is assigned. If you i.e. run fetchmail, the first packet leaves with your dummy IP and therefor is never answered, the connection hangs. The "dyn_ip patch" by Eric Corey solves this. I have lost the overview what happened to standard modem connections (diald), wether this might be interseting as well. It would (IMHO) not harm to set it to yes. If you use a static IP, you won=C5=BDt need it. Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4764672036111841849==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Sun Feb 7 10:35:34 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kompiling 2.2.1 Kernel Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 11:35:34 +0100 Message-ID: <36BD6C76.E3501229@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9202193655501791117==" --===============9202193655501791117== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello... I am having problems compiling the 2.2.1 Kernel on SuSE 6.0. I use the gcc compiler that served so well on all 2.0.x Kernels. Do I have to change to ecgs for 2.2.x? Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9202193655501791117==-- From awol@STAT.UNIMAAS.NL Sun Feb 7 14:20:16 1999 From: awol@STAT.UNIMAAS.NL To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 15:20:16 +0100 Message-ID: <99020717315300.00387@for> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5248211558536864320==" --===============5248211558536864320== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 06 Feb 1999, you wrote: Ted Harding, Chris Martin, Michael Johnson, Samy Elashmawy, zentara have all brought forward relevant and interesting statements and points of view in this thread. However I think the single most important issue confronting the Linux world is and remains: standardisation of a base Linux system. There has to be agreement on things like file-system structure, the init process, the basic libraries used and preferably also the naming and the contents of the installation 'packages', the placement of these libraries in the file-sytem tree, etc. etc.. If not it will become unnatractive for ISV's not specialized in Linux to also make versions of their software available for Linux. This is the same problem confronting companies who also develop for Unix, you need seperate versions for DEC unix, HP unix, AIX, etc. Even for companies specialized in Linux it will become irritating. (this is the gist of the reaction of SAS when asked about a Linux version of SAS) And then think of the 'average Joe computer user' mentioned by Chris Martin. Joe uses a SuSE 6.0 system and has discovered the ease of working with rpm's. He discovers the rich source of rpm's available for RH and downloads a couple and installs them on his SuSE sytem only to discover that they either do not work or that he has messed up his system. (the fact that we also have other packaging systems for Debian and Stampede is of less importance as long as tools like 'alien' are kept up to date) We should reach a point of agreement on basic structure of Linux where it does not make one iota difference on which distro a rpm was made. [let me quickly add before Michael Johnson berates me: I too don't think that rpms are the answer to everything. But they sure are easy and comfortable for 'average Joe computer user' :-)]. I was already interested in this issue but this interest has been reinforced by at least three 'incidents' this past year where I was confronted with difference between SuSE en RH. At the office I use RH 5.2 (glibc) and at home SuSE 5.3 (libc). Everything I use at the office I also want at home, and vice versa and the glibc-libc issue is the least of the problems. My latest problem concerns the commercial statistical program Stata that I use professionaly. Two weeks ago I received the new Stata 6.0 for Linux and promptly installed it at home and at the office. [up to now Stata was no problem because it was aout, now they have gone ELF] --===============5248211558536864320==-- From jkx@club-internet.fr Sun Feb 7 15:19:27 1999 From: jkx@club-internet.fr To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Fonts ?? Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 16:19:27 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <99020711073900.00311@kamikazen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3154019837753375520==" --===============3154019837753375520== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07-Feb-99 Maurizio Firmani a dit .....: \>=20 \> On Sun, 07 Feb 1999, SoiF wrote: \>>I 'm looking for some fonts for using in gimp=20 \>> \>>I have already donloaded Shared and Freefont .. but i want more .. \>> \>>I search for it about 3 month .. but i only find True type font for Mac or \>>Windows .. that doesn't work on LinuX ..=20 \>=20 \> To handle TrueType Fonts you should install a font server like xfstt (X Fo= nt \> Server True Type) or xfsft (X Font Server Free Type). The former is a bit \> easier \> to configure. Once you have the font server installed you can use windows \> TrueType fonts (of course, you cannot achieve this result magically, there \> is a \> bit of configuration work). \>=20 \> I don't have the URLs right now, but a simple search with the keyword \> "xfstt" \> or "xfsft" will help. \>=20 \> Maurizio I have ever try it .. but it's to hard for me .. i can 't find the way to configure it .. Thks --------------------------------------------------- Soif soif(a)mygale.org write 07-Feb-99 at 16:18:14 You will find my LinuX tricks and Tips at http://www.mygale.org/~soif/> --------------------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3154019837753375520==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Sun Feb 7 15:39:11 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kompiling 2.2.1 Kernel Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 10:39:11 -0500 Message-ID: <36BDB39E.E63DC271@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <36BD6C76.E3501229@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5079375596302118534==" --===============5079375596302118534== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Juergen Braukmann wrote: >=20 > Hello... >=20 > I am having problems compiling the 2.2.1 Kernel on SuSE 6.0. > I use the gcc compiler that served so well on all 2.0.x Kernels. > Do I have to change to ecgs for 2.2.x? >=20 In /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes there is a list of the software level needed to compile the 2.2.1 kernel. There is also a listing of the commands to check each software's version. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5079375596302118534==-- From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Sun Feb 7 15:47:29 1999 From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Toshiba Libretto Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 16:47:29 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9009786820821673220==" --===============9009786820821673220== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all; Thanks to all that sent me a note. I've passed it on to my friends. I don't think that they had thought about removing the battery. Also I'm purty sure that (at least) my two friends got the computer legally. I think that it's just passed from hand to hand so many times that the password was forgetten about.=20 Thanks again! J I M ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany=20 hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!! Micro$oft -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) ---------------------------------------------- "If a President of the United States ever lied to the=20 American people he should resign." Bill Clinton, 1974 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9009786820821673220==-- From awol@STAT.UNIMAAS.NL Sun Feb 7 16:37:49 1999 From: awol@STAT.UNIMAAS.NL To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 17:37:49 +0100 Message-ID: <99020718244302.00387@for> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0491384919265850848==" --===============0491384919265850848== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 Chris Martin wrote: >> Just wait until RH spends a little time and well funded effort on >> German distbns. . . .I think SuSE's claim to German fame will >> quickly fall by the wayside too. . . .$$$ knows no borders. . . ..boo >> hoo. =20 Some anecdotal evidence: Last summer I was in Berlin for 3 weeks and I checked all the locations selling Linux boxed sets I could find: In the academic book stores I counted more RH boxes on the shelves than SuSE boxes. At other places I often found one or the other. In the software corner of the KaDeWe dept store they prominently only had RH. I have been in Germany a few time these last 2 years in different cities and allways saw at least as many RH boxes as SuSE boxes. Up to now I have mostly seen RH boxes in the Dutch academic bookstores (if they had any Linux at all). Only the last year have I also seen some SuSE boxes in the computer stores that sell Linux. The number of sites mirroring Linux outnumbers the number of sites mirroring SuSE. Only Debian has a comparable number of mirrors as RH at academic sites. The Dutch Linux User Group regularly burns RH cd's to sell at events and mirrors RH on their server. Ted Harding wrote: >Also, SuSE has made a name for including an exceptional variety of >applications, all compiled consistently with the distribution. I think this can be more of a curse than a blessing, especially as SuSE does not update the rpm's of the included applications between releases. (Debian also includes a lot of stuff but you can mostly quickly get an updated Debian package when something changes, this is not the case with SuSE. There is also no 'culture' of SuSE users uploading updated rpm's as with RH and Debian). If you are not going to update the packages between distributions you can better do as RH does and only distribute a basic Linux and rely on users to update things or release regular cd's with 'stuff to be found on the Linux sites. One example ( I can give a lot more): I use Lyx for my 'word' processing. The definite LyX 1.0 (>=3DLyX 0.15.x) has already been released. A LyX 1.0 rpm has already been uploaded to the=20 RedHat contribution server. Stata 6.0 (I just checked) only contains LyX 0.12.0pre8-23. It could have contained one of the already very stable LyX 0.15.x which I have been using without any problems and which contains many enhancements and bug fixes compared to 0.12.x. When are they going to distribute LyX 1.0?? ------------------------------------- Alexander Volovics Dept of Methodology & Statistics Maastricht University, Maastricht, NL ------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0491384919265850848==-- From mperry@basin.com Sun Feb 7 18:26:17 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Looking for a window manager? Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 10:26:17 -0800 Message-ID: <199902071826.KAA02519@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3329058909360346829==" --===============3329058909360346829== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I therefore suggest blackbox which seems to be easily configurable, nice on resources, pleasant to the eye. I think that for someone just starting out the ways of adding menu items, etc; cannot be beat. The latest compiles on SuSE 5.3 without complaint and it has some nice web-based config. information which shows how to write menu entries, change default window behavior, etc. --=20 Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com ------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3329058909360346829==-- From mcleod@ssc.es Sun Feb 7 19:04:06 1999 From: mcleod@ssc.es To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] GLIBC 2.1 IS OUT!! Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 20:04:06 +0100 Message-ID: <000501be52cc$bd5c4760$91b537c3@interssc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6820172966590561104==" --===============6820172966590561104== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry , but glibc 2.1 is out now!! Will SUSE 6.1 be out in few weeks with glibc 2.1 as it's core library?. Vicente - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6820172966590561104==-- From stephena@hiwaay.net Sun Feb 7 19:41:26 1999 From: stephena@hiwaay.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] glibc 2.1 and Suse 6.0 Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 13:41:26 -0600 Message-ID: <199902071937.NAA12679@mail.HiWAAY.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7164935644007407805==" --===============7164935644007407805== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anybody have any thoughts on how easy/hard it will be to plug in=20 glibc 2.1 into Suse 6.0? Stephen Anderson stephena(a)HiWAAY.net - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7164935644007407805==-- From kukuk@suse.de Sun Feb 7 19:49:29 1999 From: kukuk@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] GLIBC 2.1 IS OUT!! Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 20:49:29 +0100 Message-ID: <19990207204929.A8254@allen.suse.de> In-Reply-To: <000501be52cc$bd5c4760$91b537c3@interssc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0034707606956804019==" --===============0034707606956804019== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 08:04:06PM +0100, Vicente A.S. Werner wrote: >=20 > Sorry , but glibc 2.1 is out now!! Will SUSE 6.1 be out in few weeks with > glibc 2.1 as it's core library?. I doubt that glibc 2.1 will be the core library, because some important binary only programs like StarOffice 5.0 and java doesn't run, and some other like Netscape doesn't work 100 (Just curios, I only know of programs you don't have the source for, should that tell me anything about quality of free source code ?) Thorsten --=20 Thorsten Kukuk http://home.pages.de/~kukuk/> kukuk(a= )suse.de SuSE GmbH Schanzaeckerstr. 10 90443 Nuernberg Linux is like a Vorlon. It is incredibly powerful, gives terse, cryptic answers and has a lot of things going on in the background. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0034707606956804019==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Sun Feb 7 20:48:45 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Fonts ?? Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 12:48:45 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6533709937331592423==" --===============6533709937331592423== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, SoiF wrote: > On 07-Feb-99 Maurizio Firmani a dit .....: > \> or "xfsft" will help. > \> Maurizio > I have ever try it .. but it's to hard for me .. i can 't find the way to > configure it .. It's not that hard to configure. Give it a few shakes and double check the instructions. Also, if in doubt check the list archives on both S.u.S.E. and RedHat. There have been plenty of instructions on how to get it set up and , at least for me, it works like a charm.=20 -M=20 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6533709937331592423==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Sun Feb 7 20:50:11 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] GLIBC 2.1 IS OUT!! Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 12:50:11 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000501be52cc$bd5c4760$91b537c3@interssc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5906666104362946215==" --===============5906666104362946215== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Vicente A.S. Werner wrote: > Sorry , but glibc 2.1 is out now!! Will SUSE 6.1 be out in few weeks with > glibc 2.1 as it's core library?. > > Vicente --===============5906666104362946215==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Sun Feb 7 21:06:36 1999 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] HURD Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 13:06:36 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6691404118332811169==" --===============6691404118332811169== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone fooled with Hurd beta? Anyone installed it at all. I know it's raw... I also hear Debian will be supporting the Hurd. Any thoughts or information on whether S.u.S.E. plans to follow or support the development in the future?=20 -M=20 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6691404118332811169==-- From camst65+@pitt.edu Sun Feb 7 21:57:37 1999 From: camst65+@pitt.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Stupid Question? 6.0? Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 16:57:37 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990205161310.C598@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1457456840638469330==" --===============1457456840638469330== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, am I blind, or is there somewhere that gives me some idea on how I go abo= ut moving from 5.3 to 6.0? The US SuSE site doen't even mention 6.0 being available yet. . .hmm. . . . ------------------------------------------ E-Mail: Chris Martin =20 Date: 07-Feb-99 Time: 16:55:32 ** Powered by SuSE Linux. You want it?! **=20 http://www= .suse.com> | http://www.linux.org> ------------------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1457456840638469330==-- From Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net Sun Feb 7 22:38:20 1999 From: Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Beep when mail is received Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 14:38:20 -0800 Message-ID: <36BE15DC.2C41B070@gte.net> In-Reply-To: <19990206120822.A253@BeagleDog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6458359258462323347==" --===============6458359258462323347== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howard Arons wrote: >=20 > I receive mail from my ISP's POP3 server via fetchmail->procmail-> > various mboxes. When mail is deposited in my spool; i.e.; > /var/spool/mail/hlarons, my machine beeps, *but not every time.* >=20 > I can't find anything in the fetchmail or procmail config files that > might cause this. Is the beep from SuSE (5.2) at work? Why isn't the > behavior consistent? >=20 > Howard Arons > -- > Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.33 > Communications by Mutt 0.93.2 > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> I had this problem before within my xterms and what did was setup my .login file to execute a "biff n" command which shuts off the mail notifications. I usually use a csh or tcsh shell and they can be configured to check for mail. I found it very irritating when fetchmail pulled down new mail and all of my xterm windows beeped. Tony --=20 Anthony.Schlemmer(a)gte.net - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6458359258462323347==-- From skoper@mediaone.net Mon Feb 8 00:23:10 1999 From: skoper@mediaone.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IRQ for eth1 Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 19:23:10 -0500 Message-ID: <003701be52f9$d003d900$020aa8c0@CYRIX1.alembic.ne.mediaone.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] IRQ for eth1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2147711783643098418==" --===============2147711783643098418== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark, No, but it's a PCI mainboard...hmm. Maybe I'll try re-setting the card to IRQ 10. Although it *does* work now. Stan Koper -----Original Message----- From: Mark E. Davidson To: Stan Koper ; suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] IRQ for eth1 >I may be wrong, but isn't IRQ 9 the "PCI bridge" IRQ? Is the card >PCI-based? > >Mark > >-----Original Message----- >From: Stan Koper >To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com >Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 7:03 PM >Subject: [SuSE Linux] IRQ for eth1 > > >> >>Hi! >> >>When I boot linux (SuSE 5.3, kernel 2.0.35), eth1 is listed as using an IRQ >>of 9. That's what the card is set for. But when I run ifconfig. it shows >>eth1 as using an irq of 10. Is ifconfig detecting a conflict, and making >>its own workaround? I can certainly set the card to use IRQ 10, if there's >>some sort of conflict. It seems to work, as far as I can tell. >> >>Stan Koper >> > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2147711783643098418==-- From copernico@tin.it Mon Feb 8 00:30:12 1999 From: copernico@tin.it To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Netscape 4.06 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 01:30:12 +0100 Message-ID: <36BE3014.781657BB@tin.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7083158452864340781==" --===============7083158452864340781== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. Does anybody know why in the list box of Collabra Netscape Communicator lists twice each newsgroup I subscribed? I'm using leafnode (which I successfully installed thanks to the precious help of the subscribers of this ml) and it works fine indeed, even with Netscape so the problem I'm complaining is not really bothering me, I just wanted to understand..... Thanks to anyone will give me a hint. AS - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7083158452864340781==-- From skoper@mediaone.net Mon Feb 8 00:31:55 1999 From: skoper@mediaone.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Firecracker II Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 19:31:55 -0500 Message-ID: <00cf01be52fa$6fe91340$020aa8c0@CYRIX1.alembic.ne.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8646877255625116262==" --===============8646877255625116262== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Does anyone know where I can find documentation (in English) on the Firecracker II program (v0.3) written by Volker Graf? Thanks, Stan Koper - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8646877255625116262==-- From jlboers@usa.net Mon Feb 8 01:07:11 1999 From: jlboers@usa.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] HURD Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 19:07:11 -0600 Message-ID: <002801be52ff$5ca1d380$0401a8c0@ourhouse> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2658840370828697829==" --===============2658840370828697829== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry guys but this might be a stupid question but what is HURD? ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Johnson To: Sent: Sunday, February 07, 1999 3:06 PM Subject: [SuSE Linux] HURD > > Anyone fooled with Hurd beta? Anyone installed it at all. I know it's > raw... > I also hear Debian will be supporting the Hurd. Any thoughts or > information on whether S.u.S.E. plans to follow or support the development > in the future? > > -M > > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2658840370828697829==-- From medavid@ix.netcom.com Mon Feb 8 01:49:03 1999 From: medavid@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] HURD Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 17:49:03 -0800 Message-ID: <01be5305$34a011c0$8242d8ce@win98> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] HURD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6751589499000485797==" --===============6751589499000485797== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's the FSF's Mach-based kernel for their OS. Mark -----Original Message----- From: J-L Boers To: SuSE Mail List Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] HURD > >Sorry guys but this might be a stupid question but what is HURD? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Michael Johnson >To: >Sent: Sunday, February 07, 1999 3:06 PM >Subject: [SuSE Linux] HURD > > >> >> Anyone fooled with Hurd beta? Anyone installed it at all. I know it's >> raw... >> I also hear Debian will be supporting the Hurd. Any thoughts or >> information on whether S.u.S.E. plans to follow or support the development >> in the future? >> >> -M >> >> >> - >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >> Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the >> archiv at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >> > >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archiv at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6751589499000485797==-- From crumb@midwest.net Mon Feb 8 03:55:04 1999 From: crumb@midwest.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc 2.1 and Suse 6.0 Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 21:55:04 -0600 Message-ID: <199902080347.VAA09306@cdale3.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <199902071937.NAA12679@mail.HiWAAY.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5965301464767548182==" --===============5965301464767548182== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am I to understand that as soon as I get a new copy of 6.0, I'll=20 necessarily need to start patching libraries? I still don't even=20 understand libc, glibc, ad nauseum, but I usually can recognize a=20 bottom line. I like SuSE very much, but if 6.0 will be substandard=20 in any way, I'll limp by with my 5.3 evaluation. What is the REAL=20 DEAL here folks. Should a "newbie" buy now or later? =20 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5965301464767548182==-- From LinuxAdvocate@iname.com Mon Feb 8 04:03:04 1999 From: LinuxAdvocate@iname.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Looking for a window manager? Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 18:03:04 -1000 Message-ID: <36BE61F8.5E7D48C0@iname.com> In-Reply-To: <199902071826.KAA02519@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3748311862783167082==" --===============3748311862783167082== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Perry wrote: >=20 > I therefore suggest blackbox which seems to be easily configurable, > nice on resources, pleasant to the eye. I think that for someone just > starting out the ways of adding menu items, etc; cannot be beat. The > latest compiles on SuSE 5.3 without complaint and it has some nice > web-based config. information which shows how to write menu entries, > change default window behavior, etc. Cool - got a URL? George - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3748311862783167082==-- From mwagnon@ixpres.com Mon Feb 8 04:40:32 1999 From: mwagnon@ixpres.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Looking for a window manager? Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 04:40:32 +0000 Message-ID: <36BE6AC0.AE3DCEB6@ixpres.com> In-Reply-To: <36BE61F8.5E7D48C0@iname.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8970060761715411556==" --===============8970060761715411556== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable George Toft wrote: >=20 > Cool - got a URL? Blackbox can be found at: http://blackbox.wiw.org/> Have fun! --=20 __ _ Mark Wagnon -o) / / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chula Vista, CA /\\/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / mailto:mwagnon(a)ixpres.com _\_= v____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8970060761715411556==-- From jlboers@usa.net Mon Feb 8 05:00:12 1999 From: jlboers@usa.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Looking for a window manager? Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:00:12 -0600 Message-ID: <001801be531f$ea754c80$0401a8c0@ourhouse> In-Reply-To: <36BE61F8.5E7D48C0@iname.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1812926472436408858==" --===============1812926472436408858== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable try this: = http://blackbox.wiw.org/> ttyl J-L jlboers(a)usa.net ----- Original Message -----=20 From: George Toft To: suse-linux-e Sent: Sunday, February 07, 1999 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Looking for a window manager? >=20 > Michael Perry wrote: > >=20 > > I therefore suggest blackbox which seems to be easily configurable, > > nice on resources, pleasant to the eye. I think that for someone just > > starting out the ways of adding menu items, etc; cannot be beat. The > > latest compiles on SuSE 5.3 without complaint and it has some nice > > web-based config. information which shows how to write menu entries, > > change default window behavior, etc. >=20 > Cool - got a URL? >=20 > George > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1812926472436408858==-- From mperry@basin.com Mon Feb 8 06:20:19 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Looking for a window manager? Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 22:20:19 -0800 Message-ID: <199902080620.WAA06887@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: <001801be531f$ea754c80$0401a8c0@ourhouse> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7778980446831581766==" --===============7778980446831581766== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7 Feb, J-L Boers wrote: >=20 > try this: > http://blackbox.wiw.org/> >=20 > ttyl > J-L > jlboers(a)usa.net > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: George Toft > To: suse-linux-e > Sent: Sunday, February 07, 1999 10:03 PM > Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Looking for a window manager? >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> Michael Perry wrote: >> >=20 >> > I therefore suggest blackbox which seems to be easily configurable, >> > nice on resources, pleasant to the eye. I think that for someone just >> > starting out the ways of adding menu items, etc; cannot be beat. The >> > latest compiles on SuSE 5.3 without complaint and it has some nice >> > web-based config. information which shows how to write menu entries, >> > change default window behavior, etc. >>=20 >> Cool - got a URL? >>=20 >> George >> - >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >> Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Su= pport/Doku/FAQ/> and the >> archiv at = http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >>=20 >=20 > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> As a second choice I would also submit XFCE. This one takes the pain out of adding programs to a buttonbar by allowing you to do it interactively. No editing text files or writing arcane statements.=20 Clicking to add, remove, rename, etc. Its easy to add icons or change them also by right clicking on a item and getting a list of things. Get this... The entire root window, colors, and other stuff is accessible whilst in the X desktop. You can change things like background, the color of the buttonbar, and a bunch of other stuff including sound. Check out XFCE. It compiles only needing the xforms libs. Its at: http://www.Linux-kheops.com/pub/xfce>=20 Between this one and blackbox, configuration of the X desktop belongs to the user. One cool feature of blackbox is the way the windows rollup. One cool feature of XFCE is its gradient window title bars. --=20 Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com ------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7778980446831581766==-- From tomas@primenet.com Mon Feb 8 07:15:40 1999 From: tomas@primenet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] glibc 2.1 and Suse 6.0 Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:15:40 -0800 Message-ID: <36BE8F1C.CD1425BF@primenet.com> In-Reply-To: <199902080347.VAA09306@cdale3.midwest.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2947789931834829192==" --===============2947789931834829192== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable crumb wrote: >=20 > Am I to understand that as soon as I get a new copy of 6.0, I'll > necessarily need to start patching libraries? I still don't even > understand libc, glibc, ad nauseum, but I usually can recognize a > bottom line. I like SuSE very much, but if 6.0 will be substandard > in any way, I'll limp by with my 5.3 evaluation. What is the REAL > DEAL here folks. Should a "newbie" buy now or later? I would buy now, SuSE6.0 will have support for glibc-2.0.6. The next release of SuSE could be several months away, if not more, but were sure to see the glibc-2.1 package update within a month as well as the 2.2.X kernel package seeing as how they are MAJOR releases to the Linux community, whereas lets say pine, netscape, etc, are not major software packages for linux (prolly gonna get flamed for that) but think about it. We have pine, elm, mail, netscape, lynx, etc.. all these other programs to do similar things, whereas the library or kernel package is pretty much about it, there arnt too many other choices to choose from (hope that makes sense). Basically what I'm saying is, seeing as how SuSE-6.0 is going to have the glibc and 2.2.X kernel support built in, any upgrades will be a piece of cake compared to lets say libc5 to glibc or 2.0.X to 2.2.X would be. --=20 Ec|ipse on EFnet - tomas(a)primenet.com - http://www.primenet.com= /~tomas> Ec|ipse@|Watcher| - botnet webpage down until further notice Slackware Linux v3.6+ - Kernels 2.0.35/2.2.1 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2947789931834829192==-- From tomas@primenet.com Mon Feb 8 07:20:17 1999 From: tomas@primenet.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Looking for a window manager? Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:20:17 -0800 Message-ID: <36BE9031.223D41E@primenet.com> In-Reply-To: <199902080620.WAA06887@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0526175297116043492==" --===============0526175297116043492== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Perry wrote: >=20 > this... The entire root window, colors, and other stuff is accessible > whilst in the X desktop. You can change things like background, the > color of the buttonbar, and a bunch of other stuff including sound. >=20 > Check out XFCE. It compiles only needing the xforms libs. Its at: >=20 > http://www.Linux-kheops.com/pub/xfce> >=20 XFCE is a nice little program, specially for anyone who wants that CDE look going for them. I just wish the colors were a little more customizable, wern't in the earlier versions I messed with, havn't messed with the newer ones. From your email I'm gathering that now the XFCE frontend colors can now be changed effortlessly? --=20 Ec|ipse on EFnet - tomas(a)primenet.com - http://www.primenet.com= /~tomas> Ec|ipse@|Watcher| - botnet webpage down until further notice Slackware Linux v3.6+ - Kernels 2.0.35/2.2.1 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0526175297116043492==-- From A.Crowe@OPENMAIL1.TSEA-E.sukepabe.simis.com Mon Feb 8 08:06:41 1999 From: A.Crowe@OPENMAIL1.TSEA-E.sukepabe.simis.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] unsubscribe Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 08:06:41 +0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2815459027091447579==" --===============2815459027091447579== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2815459027091447579==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Feb 8 08:49:05 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Advice on Applixware 4.4.1 and SuSE 5.3 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 09:49:05 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <99020120163300.00257@orion> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1287735373068443586==" --===============1287735373068443586== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Martijn van den Burg wrote: > I am thinking of buying Applixware 4.4.1 and running it on my 5.3 > installation, but I read on Applix' site that problems with libc5 may > occur. Can anybody tell me if 5.3 and 4.4.1 go together? If not I'll > wait for koffice 1.0 to come out :) They do. That's the combination we sell as the Linux Office Suite '99, for example. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1287735373068443586==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Feb 8 09:08:19 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] leafnode Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:08:19 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000001be5172$1a498520$3ea7d8d4@copernico> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2268876946338846070==" --===============2268876946338846070== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Antonino Sabetta wrote: > I'm not able to make leafnode work. What shall I put in the nntp > server dialog of Knews (or Netscape Comm.) to make it go? I've tried > with the name of my computer (as it is written in /etc/HOSTNAME) or > with "loclhost" but the news-clients still refuse to connect to the > (local)server. I've followed all the steps in the documentation > supplied with leafnode.....and I don't know what to do anymore!! You need to use "localhost" as your NNTP server. In addition to that, you have to put the following line in your /etc/inetd.conf: nntp stream tcp nowait news /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/leafnode Adjust the path names, if necessary. Also don't forget to restart inetd by issuing "killall -1 inetd" as root. HTH, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2268876946338846070==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Feb 8 09:12:43 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] samba 2 and suse 6.x Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:12:43 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990205120808.00ae98dc@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4071275020633957722==" --===============4071275020633957722== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Samy Elashmawy wrote: > Any one know if suse 6.x comes with the new 2.0 version of samba on > the distribution set ? 6.0 does not come with Samba 2.0, since it wasn't released at that time. We will have a package on the ftp Server, though. SuSE Linux 6.1 will have it included. > Have any of you used the new verion of Samba 2.0 ? How does it compare > to the older version. Is it dificult to upgrade the server from 1. to > 2. ?? Am I beter off instaling the 2.0 not use the 1.x till I get the > 2.0 ?? Sorry - can't tell. I haven't used 2.0 yet. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4071275020633957722==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Feb 8 09:16:36 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] MAC addresses. Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:16:36 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BAFDC7.6AC21C83@technologist.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2287574826937099005==" --===============2287574826937099005== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Martin Moeller wrote: > Would any of you know of a generic way of querying an Ethernet > adapthers MAC Address? It's not something I need terribly, but it's > something I'd like to be able to do. If you need to know the MAC adresses of some remote machine, try "arp" (see manpage). "ifconfig" will tell you the local HW adresses. You need to load the correct driver first, of course. > Would there be any way of detecting Ethernet cards in the machine > without modprobing drivers? Some standard way of finding out 'this is > a Ethernet adapter' of some type or other? If it is a PCI card, you will find it in /proc/pci. If it is an ISA card, you need to load the driver first. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2287574826937099005==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Feb 8 09:18:11 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: your mail Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:18:11 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990205142101.00aff6b0@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3398315008615531430==" --===============3398315008615531430== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Samy Elashmawy wrote: > I have stock 5.3 cd set , Which one do I need to use ?? >=20 > ftp://ftp.s= use.com/pub/suse_update/XFree86-3.3.3.1-SuSE/> >=20 > .. > glibc2/ 04.02.98 14:39:00 > libc5/ 25.01.99 16:46:00 ^^^^^ SuSE 5.3 is based on libc5, take these ones. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3398315008615531430==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Mon Feb 8 09:33:54 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] samba 2 and suse 6.x Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 09:33:54 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990208093354.00b2b498@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5420895309382538673==" --===============5420895309382538673== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >6.0 does not come with Samba 2.0, since it wasn't released at that time. >We will have a package on the ftp Server, though. SuSE Linux 6.1 will have >it included. Any idea when , I am waiting for my 6.0 cds ? - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5420895309382538673==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Feb 8 09:36:08 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kompiling 2.2.1 Kernel Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:36:08 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BD6C76.E3501229@cityweb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0369620716988545979==" --===============0369620716988545979== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Juergen Braukmann wrote: > I am having problems compiling the 2.2.1 Kernel on SuSE 6.0. I use the > gcc compiler that served so well on all 2.0.x Kernels. Do I have to > change to ecgs for 2.2.x? What kind of problems do you have? Please give some more info. No, you do not need egcs for compiling the kernel. I run 2.2.1 on my machine, too. It compiled without trouble (including the vesafb, nice penguin ;-) ) Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0369620716988545979==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Feb 8 09:45:06 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Firecracker II Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:45:06 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00cf01be52fa$6fe91340$020aa8c0@CYRIX1.alembic.ne.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6997610200714289157==" --===============6997610200714289157== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Stan Koper wrote: > Does anyone know where I can find documentation (in English) on the > Firecracker II program (v0.3) written by Volker Graf? I remember that I've been looking for docu myself some time ago. Since I was not able to find one, I switched to "rinetd", which serves the same purpose... Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6997610200714289157==-- From grimmer@suse.de Mon Feb 8 09:46:54 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Stupid Question? 6.0? Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:46:54 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3130525920558666792==" --===============3130525920558666792== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Chris Martin wrote: > So, am I blind, or is there somewhere that gives me some idea on how I > go about moving from 5.3 to 6.0? The US SuSE site doen't even mention > 6.0 being available yet. . .hmm. . . . You can move from 5.3 to 6.0 as usual, using the upgrade procedure. Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3130525920558666792==-- From Martijn.van.den.Burg@asml.nl Mon Feb 8 11:48:18 1999 From: Martijn.van.den.Burg@asml.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Final: Advice on Applixware 4.4.1 and SuSE 5.3 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:48:18 +0100 Message-ID: <199902081148.MAA05184@wspub011.asml.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0226604924532300068==" --===============0226604924532300068== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Sorry for having posted this query twice - it won't happen again (I hope :-). I bought SO99 (local SuSE rep), installed it and it runs very well. I don't m= ake 'difficult' docs in Word 97 (that's not what it's for), so no problems, a= nd import from Excel works well. I no longer need SO4 that came with the Cald= era 1.2 CD :-)) Thanks everybody for your response to my query! Regards, =3D Martijn van den Burg =3D Tech writer, archiver, Linux user =3D Publications Department, ASML =3D e-mail: martijn.van.den.burg(a)asml.nl =3D voice: +31 (0)40 2303856 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0226604924532300068==-- From suse_list@hotmail.com Mon Feb 8 12:13:44 1999 From: suse_list@hotmail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Staroffice help. Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 04:13:44 -0800 Message-ID: <19990208121346.6769.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2240592084170715934==" --===============2240592084170715934== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I am running the commercial version of SuSE 5.2 and am currently=20 downloading version 6.0 off the ftp site. I have also decided to take=20 the plunge and be completely micro$oft free. in order to do this I have=20 to get staroffice up and running (those uni assignments have to be=20 written, and the compatibility with word is a very attractive feature,=20 this way I can write part of them at uni if needed). Anyway, I understand that the ftp version of SuSE 6.0 doesn't come wi= th=20 staroffice. So my question is how do I go about installing staroffice=20 from the version I will download from stardivision, using SuSE 6.0?? I=20 am completely clueless as to where to start. If someone could give me=20 some directions or even point me to some literature I would be really=20 greatful, and there will be one less MS user out there! :) Cheers, Brad. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2240592084170715934==-- From rachel@epinet.co.uk Mon Feb 8 12:13:55 1999 From: rachel@epinet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: SuSE 6.0 bug: Acrobat plugin for Netscape Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:13:55 +0000 Message-ID: <36BED503.A62B7E20@epinet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5804013713622359172==" --===============5804013713622359172== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Philip Stokes wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Rachel Greenham wrote: >=20 > > > > Andreas Gerstlauer wrote: > > > > > Actually /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib > > ^ > > > I had the same problem and tried it with a link to libc.so.5 > > > in the /lib directory. Bad idea, netscape crashes when trying > > > to load a PDF document. > > > > yep. > > > > > Luckily I found an article in the German support database about > > > the problem. Solution: disable the nppdf.so plugin and revert > > > to executing "acroread" external to netscape for PDF docs > > > > Oh poo. > > > > It was working on SuSE 6.0 beta as well... >=20 > There's a Netscape update for 6.0 on SuSE's ftp server that apparently > "works better with libc5 plugins". >=20 > I haven't tried it yet - looks like 6.0 should be arriving here Monday > or Tuesday next week :) Well, I'm currently running the Netscape that comes with the SuSE 6.0-evaluation stuff. --=20 Rachel Who's about to try to install KDE 1.1 :-} - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5804013713622359172==-- From rachel@epinet.co.uk Mon Feb 8 12:16:56 1999 From: rachel@epinet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] GLIBC 2.1 IS OUT!! Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:16:56 +0000 Message-ID: <36BED5B8.2E46CF99@epinet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <19990207204929.A8254@allen.suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5305526895630074520==" --===============5305526895630074520== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thorsten Kukuk wrote: >=20 > On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 08:04:06PM +0100, Vicente A.S. Werner wrote: > > > > Sorry , but glibc 2.1 is out now!! Will SUSE 6.1 be out in few weeks with > > glibc 2.1 as it's core library?. >=20 > I doubt that glibc 2.1 will be the core library, because some > important binary only programs like StarOffice 5.0 Still can't get that to run on SuSE 6.0 anyway. > and java doesn't run, Ah, that is bad. --=20 Rachel - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5305526895630074520==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Mon Feb 8 12:20:03 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Penguins, glibc 2.1, Suse 6.0 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:20:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199902080347.VAA09306@cdale3.midwest.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6574337716683786091==" --===============6574337716683786091== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08-Feb-99 crumb wrote: >=20 > Am I to understand that as soon as I get a new copy of 6.0, I'll=20 > necessarily need to start patching libraries? I still don't even=20 > understand libc, glibc, ad nauseum, but I usually can recognize a=20 > bottom line. I like SuSE very much, but if 6.0 will be substandard=20 > in any way, I'll limp by with my 5.3 evaluation. What is the REAL=20 > DEAL here folks. Should a "newbie" buy now or later? =20 Penguins, I was once told (possibly not seriously), have an interesting approach to takng the plunge when they want to go into the sea to hunt fish. The danger, of course, is that a penguin is a nice breakfast for a seal or a juicy mouthfull for a killer whale. So the penguin herd lines up on the edge of the ice-sheet, at the top of the slope going down to the water, and they look down at the water, and at each other, and down at the water, and ... Then, suddenly, a few of them lose patience. Off they go, sliding down into the water, and the others watch. If all goes well, down go the rest of them. ... I shall be watching patiently. Best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 08-Feb-99 Time: 12:20:03 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6574337716683786091==-- From gdoris@shaw.wave.ca Mon Feb 8 12:26:13 1999 From: gdoris@shaw.wave.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Netscape 4.5 Buss Error??? Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 07:26:13 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8555648387110929251==" --===============8555648387110929251== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All of a sudden I've started getting a "bus error" when using Netscape 4.5. Netscape suddenly terminates and the message is left in the xterm window. Is there a fix for this? Would switching to 4.08 take care of the problem? Gerry ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Gerry Doris Date: 08-Feb-99 Time: 07:23:12 "The lyf so short, the craft so long to learne" Chaucer ---------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8555648387110929251==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Mon Feb 8 12:35:03 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:35:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <99020717315300.00387@for> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6660501340589976916==" --===============6660501340589976916== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07-Feb-99 alexander volovics wrote: >=20 > Ted Harding, Chris Martin, Michael Johnson, Samy Elashmawy, zentara > have all brought forward relevant and interesting statements and points > of view in this thread. >=20 > However I think the single most important issue confronting the Linux > world is and remains: standardisation of a base Linux system. This was my original point, and Alex V has added many strong arguments for it. Very well said, Alex. I do wonder if the many participants in LSB can ever agree unless by adopting as "standard" the setup already used by one of them. The alternative, as Alex says and as has been forcefully said in other places, is "UNIX Wars" all over again. This is what marginalised UNIX for many major software ISVs; the ones that stayed in were mainly those that depended on platforms with UNIX power for their software to run at all. The principal difference that Linux has from "traditional" UNIX installations is that you get the power at minimal cost for the software, you can use rather low-grade cheap hardware, there are a lot of us about, and of course there is the Open Source community backing you up (though the last factor tends to come into play only after you have taken the plunge). I dare say it *will* settle down, though without an LSB-type standard it could take a lot longer. Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 08-Feb-99 Time: 12:35:03 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6660501340589976916==-- From Surjit.Bains@hsam.co.uk Mon Feb 8 12:43:54 1999 From: Surjit.Bains@hsam.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Netscape 4.5 Buss Error??? Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:43:54 +0000 Message-ID: <41A241233152D211A75800805FAD5713025B4B@EXCHANGE1> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Netscape 4.5 Buss Error???> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0932805073955028825==" --===============0932805073955028825== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 CgoKPT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT0K VGhpcyBtZXNzYWdlIGFuZCBhbnkgYXR0YWNobWVudHMgdG8gaXQgYXJlIHN1YmplY3QgdG8gY29w eXJpZ2h0IGFuZCBhcmUgCnNlbnQgZm9yIHRoZSBwZXJzb25hbCBhdHRlbnRpb24gb2YgdGhlIGFk ZHJlc3NlZS4gIEl0IG1heSBpbmNsdWRlIAppbmZvcm1hdGlvbiB3aGljaCBpcyBsZWdhbGx5IHBy aXZpbGVnZWQgYW5kIGV4ZW1wdCBmcm9tIGRpc2Nsb3N1cmUuICAKSWYgeW91IHJlY2VpdmUgdGhp cyBjb21tdW5pY2F0aW9uIGluIGVycm9yLCBwbGVhc2UgYWR2aXNlIHVzIGltbWVkaWF0ZWx5Lgo9 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PQoKSSBn ZXQgdGhpcyBvY2Nhc2lvbmFsbHkgb24gbXkgc2xvd2VyIGxpbnV4IG1hY2hpbmUgNDg2IDEybWIg Li4uIGJ1dApuZXZlciBvbiBhIGhpZ2hlciBzcGVjIG1hY2hpbmUuLi4KCi4uLnRoaXMgb2NjdXJz IHdpdGggc2V2ZXJhbCBvdGhlciBhcHBzIHRvby4uLgoKLi4uIENvdWxkIGJlIGRvd24gdG8gdGhl IGJ1cyAnd2lkdGgnIG9uIG9sZGVyIG1hY2hpbmVzICBJIHRoaW5rLi4uCgpTdXJqaXQuCgotLS0t LU9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UtLS0tLQpGcm9tOiBHZXJyeSBEb3JpcyBbPEEgSFJFRj0ibWFpbHRv Omdkb3JpcyhhKXNoYXcud2F2ZS5jYSI+bWFpbHRvOmdkb3JpcyhhKXNoYXcud2F2ZS5jYTwvQT5d ClNlbnQ6IDA4IEZlYnJ1YXJ5IDE5OTkgMTI6MjYKVG86IHN1c2UtbGludXgtZShhKXN1c2UuZGUK U3ViamVjdDogW1N1U0UgTGludXhdIE5ldHNjYXBlIDQuNSBCdXNzIEVycm9yPz8/Cgo9PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT0KV0FSTklORzogRXh0ZXJuYWwgRW1h aWw6IFRoaXMgbWVzc2FnZSB3YXMgcmVjZWl2ZWQgZnJvbSBhIHNvdXJjZQpleHRlcm5hbCB0byBI U0FNIGFuZCB0aGVyZWZvcmUgdGhlIHNlbmRlcidzIGlkZW50aXR5IGNhbm5vdCBiZSB2ZXJpZmll ZC4KPT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09CgpBbGwgb2YgYSBz dWRkZW4gSSd2ZSBzdGFydGVkIGdldHRpbmcgYSAiYnVzIGVycm9yIiB3aGVuIHVzaW5nIE5ldHNj YXBlCjQuNS4gIE5ldHNjYXBlIHN1ZGRlbmx5IHRlcm1pbmF0ZXMgYW5kIHRoZSBtZXNzYWdlIGlz IGxlZnQgaW4gdGhlIHh0ZXJtCndpbmRvdy4KCklzIHRoZXJlIGEgZml4IGZvciB0aGlzPyAgV291 bGQgc3dpdGNoaW5nIHRvIDQuMDggdGFrZSBjYXJlIG9mIHRoZQpwcm9ibGVtPwoKR2VycnkKCi0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0KRS1NYWlsOiBHZXJyeSBEb3JpcyA8Z2Rv cmlzKGEpc2hhdy53YXZlLmNhPgpEYXRlOiAwOC1GZWItOTkKVGltZTogMDc6MjM6MTIKCiJUaGUg bHlmIHNvIHNob3J0LCB0aGUgY3JhZnQgc28gbG9uZyB0byBsZWFybmUiICBDaGF1Y2VyCi0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0KLQpUbyBnZXQgb3V0IG9mIHRoaXMgbGlzdCwg cGxlYXNlIHNlbmQgZW1haWwgdG8gbWFqb3Jkb21vKGEpc3VzZS5jb20gd2l0aAp0aGlzIHRleHQg aW4gaXRzIGJvZHk6IHVuc3Vic2NyaWJlIHN1c2UtbGludXgtZQpDaGVjayBvdXQgdGhlIFN1U0Ut RkFRIGF0IDxBIEhSRUY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cuc3VzZS5jb20vU3VwcG9ydC9Eb2t1L0ZBUS8iPjxB IEhSRUY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cuc3VzZS5jb20vU3VwcG9ydC9Eb2t1L0ZBUS88L0EiPmh0dHA6Ly93 d3cuc3VzZS5jb20vU3VwcG9ydC9Eb2t1L0ZBUS88L0E8L0E+PiBhbmQgdGhlCmFyY2hpdiBhdCA8 QSBIUkVGPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnN1c2UuY29tL01haWxpbmdsaXN0cy9zdXNlLWxpbnV4LWUvaW5k ZXguaHRtbCI+PEEgSFJFRj0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy5zdXNlLmNvbS9NYWlsaW5nbGlzdHMvc3VzZS1s aW51eC1lL2luZGV4Lmh0bWw8L0EiPmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuc3VzZS5jb20vTWFpbGluZ2xpc3RzL3N1 c2UtbGludXgtZS9pbmRleC5odG1sPC9BPC9BPj4KLQpUbyBnZXQgb3V0IG9mIHRoaXMgbGlzdCwg cGxlYXNlIHNlbmQgZW1haWwgdG8gbWFqb3Jkb21vKGEpc3VzZS5jb20gd2l0aAp0aGlzIHRleHQg aW4gaXRzIGJvZHk6IHVuc3Vic2NyaWJlIHN1c2UtbGludXgtZQpDaGVjayBvdXQgdGhlIFN1U0Ut RkFRIGF0IDxBIEhSRUY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cuc3VzZS5jb20vU3VwcG9ydC9Eb2t1L0ZBUS8iPjxB IEhSRUY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cuc3VzZS5jb20vU3VwcG9ydC9Eb2t1L0ZBUS88L0EiPmh0dHA6Ly93 d3cuc3VzZS5jb20vU3VwcG9ydC9Eb2t1L0ZBUS88L0E8L0E+PiBhbmQgdGhlCmFyY2hpdiBhdCA8 QSBIUkVGPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnN1c2UuY29tL01haWxpbmdsaXN0cy9zdXNlLWxpbnV4LWUvaW5k ZXguaHRtbCI+PEEgSFJFRj0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy5zdXNlLmNvbS9NYWlsaW5nbGlzdHMvc3VzZS1s aW51eC1lL2luZGV4Lmh0bWw8L0EiPmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuc3VzZS5jb20vTWFpbGluZ2xpc3RzL3N1 c2UtbGludXgtZS9pbmRleC5odG1sPC9BPC9BPj4K --===============0932805073955028825==-- From rachel@epinet.co.uk Mon Feb 8 12:59:57 1999 From: rachel@epinet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Staroffice help. Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:59:57 +0000 Message-ID: <36BEDFCD.86C5EA40@epinet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <19990208121346.6769.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7226497731883051233==" --===============7226497731883051233== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brad Jones wrote: >=20 > Hi all, > I am running the commercial version of SuSE 5.2 and am currently > downloading version 6.0 off the ftp site. I have also decided to take > the plunge and be completely micro$oft free. in order to do this I have > to get staroffice up and running (those uni assignments have to be > written, and the compatibility with word is a very attractive feature, > this way I can write part of them at uni if needed). > Anyway, I understand that the ftp version of SuSE 6.0 doesn't come = with > staroffice. So my question is how do I go about installing staroffice > from the version I will download from stardivision, using SuSE 6.0?? I > am completely clueless as to where to start. If someone could give me > some directions or even point me to some literature I would be really > greatful, and there will be one less MS user out there! :) I would love someone to contradict me on this, but I can't seem to do it! It insists on changes to /lib to reflect glibc2.0.7. I don't trust those changes. Even when I did install it and get it to work once, it stopped working the next day. --=20 Rachel - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7226497731883051233==-- From mperry@basin.com Mon Feb 8 13:25:47 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Netscape 4.5 Buss Error??? Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 05:25:47 -0800 Message-ID: <199902081325.FAA07414@mperry.basin.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8740325497459250265==" --===============8740325497459250265== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 8 Feb, Gerry Doris wrote: >=20 > All of a sudden I've started getting a "bus error" when using Netscape > 4.5. Netscape suddenly terminates and the message is left in the xterm > window. >=20 > Is there a fix for this? Would switching to 4.08 take care of the problem? >=20 > Gerry >=20 > ---------------------------------- > E-Mail: Gerry Doris > Date: 08-Feb-99 > Time: 07:23:12 >=20 > "The lyf so short, the craft so long to learne" Chaucer > ---------------------------------- > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> Thats the thing tht steered me away from netscape 4.5 completely. I started getting this things more and more as time went by; especially with clicking on mailto's. I have not tried the stand alone version but I did not have problems with bus errors in 4.05 but did have other problems like suddenly seeing all my memory used up. I ended up going back to 3.04 which is quite well-behaved on my system. No crashes, no bus errors. Real stable. --=20 Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com ------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8740325497459250265==-- From stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Feb 8 13:34:25 1999 From: stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: The SuSE images Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:34:25 +0100 Message-ID: <19990208143424.A4949@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> In-Reply-To: <199902070848.JAA28785@bohr.webline.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6445247036513117151==" --===============6445247036513117151== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 09:48 +0100, Kaare Rasmussen wrote: > I thought I had this information somewhere, but I can't find it. The > 'funny' images that accompany SuSE Linux (in 5.2 it was blue, in 5.3 > green), can they be downloaded from somewhere? Have a look at the attached message. Ciao, Stefan-- BEGIN included message-- END included message --===============6445247036513117151==-- From jxfish2@bismark.bcs.lucent.com Mon Feb 8 14:01:22 1999 From: jxfish2@bismark.bcs.lucent.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Supported Printers. Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 07:01:22 -0700 Message-ID: <36BEEE32.2EA3E5F8@bismark.bcs.lucent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1744632973877903475==" --===============1744632973877903475== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone tell me if the Alps MD-1000 printer is supported under SuSE Linux? Thanks in advance, Joe Fisher - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1744632973877903475==-- From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Mon Feb 8 14:14:21 1999 From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Connect / delay ?? Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 15:14:21 +0100 Message-ID:
- To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.c= om
- Subject: Re: Mousepad
- From: Hubert Mantel <mantel(a)su= se.de>
- Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:00:08 +0200 (MEST)
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Hi, On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Kaare Rasmussen wrote: > > It's one of our CD covers, I think the on of the 5.0. It's some kind > > of Enriques surface, but please don't ask me about details, the > > formula to compute this image it pretty complicated... >=20 > But perhaps you could tell me what an Enriques surface is? It is a special family of algebraic surfaces studied by Federigo Enriques.=20 A simple algebraic surface for example are all points that satisfy the equation x=C2=B2+y=C2=B2+z=C2=B2-1=3D0, which is a sphere with radius 1 and c= enter at origin. Enriques surfaces are something "similar", but the formula is somewhat more complex ;-) In fact, you cannot see an Enriques surface itself, but only some model of it. You can find details in the preface of our handbook if you are interested. It is nontrivial to compute these surfaces. The program that computes the surfaces is on the CD. It's called "surf".=20 Hubert PS: Have a look at http= ://www.mi.uni-erlangen.de/~endrass/en/page.html> Stephan Endrass, a good friend of mine, is the author of "surf". There are very beautiful pictures on this site (go to the "parameter map"). Also, the animation is worth watching. PPS: Want some challenge? Find the formula that gives you a torus ;-) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-eMIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4429982006318260213==" --===============4429982006318260213== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all; I'm using PPP at the command line to connect to my ISP. Sometimes it is very slow or worst it picks up the phone but does not make a connection.=20 Does anyone have a script to delay my fetchpop & sendmails commands until there is a connection? Perhaps checks for a connection before it runs the rest of my script? Right now I first run ppp-on and then (by hand) run the rest of my script.=20 TIA!!! J I M ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany=20 hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!! Micro$oft -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) ---------------------------------------------- "If a President of the United States ever lied to the=20 American people he should resign." Bill Clinton, 1974 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4429982006318260213==-- From martin_moeller@technologist.com Mon Feb 8 16:04:36 1999 From: martin_moeller@technologist.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] MAC addresses. Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 17:04:36 +0100 Message-ID: <36BF0B14.A5AE956C@technologist.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] MAC addresses.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8969400273204152982==" --===============8969400273204152982== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable World Leader Pretend wrote: [That MAC-thing]=20 > If you have the appropriate modules loaded, etc... You can run: >=20 > bash>ifconfig | grep eth Ah - that's where it was hiding. Any reason, perchance, why it's not anywhere under the /proc system? > The setting HWaddr is your mac address for you ethernet card. Thank you. Regards,=20 Martin Moeller. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8969400273204152982==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Mon Feb 8 16:06:12 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Monitor specs www site ? Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 16:06:12 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990208160612.00b06280@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6665880663039258808==" --===============6665880663039258808== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an old leading edge monitor Model CMC 1212AD , Anyone know whwere I can get the specks for it. I have heard there are some www sights that archive this type of info ?? Also , any one know of any tech sights that would have info on the standard irq io assinmnet info ?? Thanks Samy - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6665880663039258808==-- From jlboers@usa.net Mon Feb 8 16:08:05 1999 From: jlboers@usa.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: The SuSE images Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:08:05 -0600 Message-ID: <001001be537d$377cdd60$0401a8c0@ourhouse> In-Reply-To: <19990208143424.A4949@one.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8410532851120155142==" --===============8410532851120155142== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable / PPS: Want some challenge? Find the formula that gives you a torus ;-) It's pretty neat.The flat torus formula: [u,v] -> [cos(u + v), sin(u + v), cos(u - v), sin(u - v)]/sqrt(2) where u and v both run from zero to 2 pi. The sum of the squares of these four coordinates is 1 so the object is completely contained in the hypersphere of radius 1 centered at the origin in four-space. -- Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: The SuSE images > Hi, > > On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 09:48 +0100, Kaare Rasmussen wrote: > > > I thought I had this information somewhere, but I can't find it. The > > 'funny' images that accompany SuSE Linux (in 5.2 it was blue, in 5.3 > > green), can they be downloaded from somewhere? > > Have a look at the attached message. > > Ciao, > Stefan > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8410532851120155142==-- From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Mon Feb 8 16:33:43 1999 From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Minolta Laser Printer Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 17:33:43 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3078254658582167121==" --===============3078254658582167121== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All; My old HP DJ has gave up the ghost :(. So I'm looking for a new printer. Does anyone use the Minolta 6L Laser? If so, does it work with Linux? How good? Also what is the difference between the 6, 6L, and 8, 6L? TIA!! J I M ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany=20 hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de Proud Linux User #88484 !!!!!!!!!! Micro$oft -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) ---------------------------------------------- "If a President of the United States ever lied to the=20 American people he should resign." 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Can anyone tell me how to ftp through a firewall. I've used passive etc. but cab't get through. Maybe some step by step instrucutions would be helpful. Regards...Martin - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6238849129003510690==-- From mantel@suse.de Mon Feb 8 17:33:08 1999 From: mantel@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] [Offtopic] The SuSE images Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 18:33:08 +0100 Message-ID: <19990208183308.A18747@suse.de> In-Reply-To: <001001be537d$377cdd60$0401a8c0@ourhouse> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3896412242372493258==" --===============3896412242372493258== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, Feb 08, J-L Boers wrote: > / PPS: Want some challenge? Find the formula that gives you a torus ;-) >=20 > It's pretty neat.The flat torus formula: >=20 > [u,v] -> [cos(u + v), sin(u + v), cos(u - v), sin(u - v)]/sqrt(2) >=20 > where u and v both run from zero to 2 pi. The sum of the squares of these > four coordinates is 1 so the object is completely contained in the > hypersphere of radius 1 centered at the origin in four-space. Cute ;) But that's too easy. The question was meant to be: Find an equation f(x,y,z)=3D0 so that all solutions of the equation form the surface of a torus. To be honest: I don't know the solution. I even don't know if this equation exists ;) -o) Hubert Mantel Goodbye, dots... /\\ _\_v - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3896412242372493258==-- From phil@stokes.demon.co.uk Mon Feb 8 18:52:51 1999 From: phil@stokes.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: Connect / delay ?? Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 18:52:51 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6510262565219495624==" --===============6510262565219495624== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, James (Jim) Hatridge wrote: > Hi all; >=20 > I'm using PPP at the command line to connect to my ISP. Sometimes it is > very slow or worst it picks up the phone but does not make a connection.=20 >=20 > Does anyone have a script to delay my fetchpop & sendmails commands until > there is a connection? Perhaps checks for a connection before it runs the > rest of my script? Right now I first run ppp-on and then (by hand) run the > rest of my script.=20 Put your script in /etc/ppp/ip-up. It will be run automatically by pppd once the link is up and packets are being exchanged. See man pppd(8) for details. Phil --=20 Philip Stokes Email: phil(a)stokes.demon.co.uk Fax: +44 (0)870 164 1242 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6510262565219495624==-- From tschlemmer@gmswireless.com Mon Feb 8 19:04:48 1999 From: tschlemmer@gmswireless.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] ftp'ing through a firewall Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 11:04:48 -0800 Message-ID: <36BF3550.4F7DEE1E@gmswireless.com> In-Reply-To: <36BF13D8.B569F864@tampabay.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5176066189051840596==" --===============5176066189051840596== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I first setup my Linux server for IP Masquerading and firewalling, I had problem with FTP. A kind soul send me the following fragment that I use for as part of my firewall rules. I'm not sure if this is what you're actually looking for: # Allow clients to use FTP through gateway # ipfwadm -I -a accept -P tcp -S 0/0 21 ipfwadm -I -a accept -P tcp -S 0/0 20 /sbin/modprobe ip_masq_ftp Martin wrote: >=20 > Hello. >=20 > Can anyone tell me how to ftp through a firewall. >=20 > I've used passive etc. but cab't get through. >=20 > Maybe some step by step instrucutions would be helpful. >=20 > Regards...Martin >=20 > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> Tony -- Tony Schlemmer | Phone : 425-372-2246 Software Developer | Fax : 425-372-2222 Global Mobility Systems, Inc. | Mobile: 425-503-8544 11201 SE 8th Street, Suite 110 | mailto:tschlemmer(a)gmswireless.com Bellevue, WA 98004 | http://www.gmswireless.com> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5176066189051840596==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Mon Feb 8 20:25:35 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Recomended laptops Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:25:35 -0800 Message-ID: <36BF483F.21AC2C7A@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Recomended laptops> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1476590058171829307==" --===============1476590058171829307== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scott Bronson wrote: >=20 > Linux works great on my Dell Latitude Cxwhatever. I lust after a > Thinkpad, but I'm not sure how well Linux works on the odd graphics > chipset they use. Go out there and find the laptop that you like best > (keyboard and scree are probably most important, and I hate the > touchpads; I'll get the pencil eraser whenever possible), then buy it > with a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If you can't get Linux to run, > return the laptop. >=20 > - Scott >=20 > lunaslide wrote: > > > > Hi all. I am seriously looking into a laptop and I'd like to ask for > > recommendations. I want something with at least a PII 266, 64MB and *at > > least* a 6GB drive. Linux compatablility is of the utmost importance and > > FreeBSD compatability would be a bonus. Thanks in advance. > > > > -- > > lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 > > * * * * * * > > In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is * > > getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is > > stupidity. * -Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas * > > * * * * * > > - > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/S= upport/Doku/FAQ/> and the > > archiv at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * * =20 In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is *=20 getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is =20 stupidity. * -Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas * =20 * * * * * - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1476590058171829307==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Mon Feb 8 20:28:54 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Recomended laptops Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:28:54 -0800 Message-ID: <36BF4906.61E3BB8D@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Recomended laptops> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2916820198159467393==" --===============2916820198159467393== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scott Bronson wrote: >=20 > Linux works great on my Dell Latitude Cxwhatever. I lust after a > Thinkpad, but I'm not sure how well Linux works on the odd graphics > chipset they use. Go out there and find the laptop that you like best > (keyboard and scree are probably most important, and I hate the > touchpads; I'll get the pencil eraser whenever possible), then buy it > with a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If you can't get Linux to run, > return the laptop. >=20 > - Scott I just ordered a Thinkpad 770X, which supposedly has a Neomagic chipset. I'll let you know how it goes. A couple people on the Linux Laptop Pages have successfully got Linux working on this beast and I'm determined to also :-) --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * * =20 In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is *=20 getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is =20 stupidity. * -Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas * =20 * * * * * - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2916820198159467393==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Mon Feb 8 20:30:12 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] [Offtopic] The SuSE images Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 15:30:12 -0500 Message-ID: <36BF4954.8EC771E6@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <19990208183308.A18747@suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6113248928942331063==" --===============6113248928942331063== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hubert Mantel wrote: =20 > On Mon, Feb 08, J-L Boers wrote: >=20 > > / PPS: Want some challenge? Find the formula that gives you a torus ;-) > > > > It's pretty neat.The flat torus formula: > > > > [u,v] -> [cos(u + v), sin(u + v), cos(u - v), sin(u - v)]/sqrt(2) > > > But that's too easy. The question was meant to be: Find an equation > f(x,y,z)=3D0 so that all solutions of the equation form the surface of a > torus. To be honest: I don't know the solution. I even don't know if this > equation exists ;) Well I havn't looked at my Vector Calculus books in about 20 years, but I found a set of formulas in "toroidal coordinates" for a torus. They are quite complicated: I will give the x equation only, but there are y, and z ones also. x =3D ((a)sinh(v)cos(w))/((cosh(v)-cos(u)) where "a" is a constant, and u,v,w are the toroidal coordinates, w is actually an angle theta. If you want, I could scan the page with the full formula set, including a cartesian coordinate graph , and email it to you. But it would probably delay work on Suse 6.0 . :-) - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6113248928942331063==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Mon Feb 8 20:34:37 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] [Offtopic] The SuSE images Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 20:34:37 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990208183308.A18747@suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8966691622612876762==" --===============8966691622612876762== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08-Feb-99 Hubert Mantel wrote: > But that's too easy. The question was meant to be: Find an equation > f(x,y,z)=3D0 so that all solutions of the equation form the surface of a > torus. To be honest: I don't know the solution. I even don't know if > this equation exists ;) > -o) > Hubert Mantel Goodbye, dots... /\\ Well, how about: Suppose the torus is swept out by a circle of radius r1 whse centre is carried round a circle of radius r0 (r1 < r0 for a proper torus). Let u =3D x/r0, v =3D y/r0, w =3D z/r1, C =3D r1/r0. Then u^2 + v^2 =3D (1 + C sqrt(1 - w^2) )^2 (Consider r =3D r0 + r1 cos q, z =3D r1 sin q, x =3D r cos p =3D r0 cos p + r1 cos p cos q y =3D r sin p =3D r0 sin p + r1 sin p cos q and eliminate the angles p, q. p is the angle in the x-y plane from a fixed direction to the centre of the sweeping circle; q is the "angle of elevation" from the centre of this circle to a point on the torus as seen along the line from the origin to the centre of this circle; r is the distance from the origin to the point in the x-y plane vertically beneath the point on the torus.) I think it's right ... Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 08-Feb-99 Time: 20:34:37 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8966691622612876762==-- From gregt@nadel.com Mon Feb 8 21:11:15 1999 From: gregt@nadel.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] NE2000 problem with 5.3 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 13:11:15 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7233797258464610547==" --===============7233797258464610547== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello all, i have an ne2000 card set up with I/O 300, IRQ 10, not pnp. it worked great under RH5.1 with kernel 2.0.34 but i can't get it recognized with SUSE 5.3. are there any no problems here? what should i check? thanks, Greg Thomas, Network Admin Jack Nadel, Inc. 310-815-2638 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7233797258464610547==-- From jblosser@firinn.org Mon Feb 8 21:21:04 1999 From: jblosser@firinn.org To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Recomended laptops Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 16:21:04 -0500 Message-ID: <19990208162104.C11438@firinn.org> In-Reply-To: <36BF483F.21AC2C7A@pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5570504845644540932==" --===============5570504845644540932== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lunaslide wrote: > > Hi all. I am seriously looking into a laptop and I'd like to ask for > recommendations. I want something with at least a PII 266, 64MB and *at > least* a 6GB drive. Linux compatablility is of the utmost importance and > FreeBSD compatability would be a bonus. Thanks in advance. I've been really pleased with my Toshiba Tecra. I know that Toshiba has not been the most friendly to Linux, but from a standpoint of pure useability and quality they have great products. Linux installed on my Tecra without a hitch. There is also a decent sized group of Tecra Linux users with various web pages dedicated to Linux on Toshiba laptops and a mailing list. --=20 Jeremy Blosser | jblosser(a)firinn.org | http://jblosser.firinn= .org/> -----------------+-------------------------+------------------------------ "Would you fight to the death, for that which you love? In a cause surely hopeless ...for that which you love?" -- D. McKiernan, _Dragondoom_PGP signature --===============5570504845644540932==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Mon Feb 8 21:32:25 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] NE2000 problem with 5.3 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 22:32:25 +0100 Message-ID: <36BF57E9.287263EC@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To:MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6929629292677365490==" --===============6929629292677365490== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greg Thomas wrote: >=20 > hello all, >=20 > i have an ne2000 card set up with I/O 300, IRQ 10, not pnp. it worked > great under RH5.1 with kernel 2.0.34 but i can't get it recognized with > SUSE 5.3. are there any no problems here? what should i check? >=20 > thanks, > Greg Thomas, Network Admin check /etc/conf.moduls for an entry like: options ne io=3D0x300 irq=3D5 make sure you give io and int as a parameter. I fought against this for a long time, until i discovered conf.modules. (provided you compiled ne2k support as a module) Compiling it direct into the kernel should do the trick as well. Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6929629292677365490==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Mon Feb 8 21:42:07 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] NE2000 problem with 5.3 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 16:42:07 -0500 Message-ID: <36BF5A2F.113931CE@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7213350016922944931==" --===============7213350016922944931== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greg Thomas wrote: >=20 > hello all, >=20 > i have an ne2000 card set up with I/O 300, IRQ 10, not pnp. it worked > great under RH5.1 with kernel 2.0.34 but i can't get it recognized with > SUSE 5.3. are there any no problems here? what should i check? >=20 Well, you need to declare the card in /etc/conf.modules 2 lines: alias eth0 ne option ne io 300 irq 10 You also need to have the ne module installed or build ne2000 support into the kernel. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7213350016922944931==-- From awol@STAT.UNIMAAS.NL Mon Feb 8 22:50:42 1999 From: awol@STAT.UNIMAAS.NL To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] [Offtopic] The SuSE images Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 23:50:42 +0100 Message-ID: <99020823585602.00219@for> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4608254175092903973==" --===============4608254175092903973== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 Ted Harding wrote: >On 08-Feb-99 Hubert Mantel wrote: >> But that's too easy. The question was meant to be: Find an equation >> f(x,y,z)=3D0 so that all solutions of the equation form the surface of a >> torus. To be honest: I don't know the solution. I even don't know if >> this equation exists ;) >Well, how about: > >Suppose the torus is swept out by a circle of radius r1 whse centre is >carried round a circle of radius r0 (r1 < r0 for a proper torus). > >Let u =3D x/r0, v =3D y/r0, w =3D z/r1, C =3D r1/r0. Then > > > u^2 + v^2 =3D (1 + C sqrt(1 - w^2) )^2 > >(Consider r =3D r0 + r1 cos q, z =3D r1 sin q, > x =3D r cos p =3D r0 cos p + r1 cos p cos q > y =3D r sin p =3D r0 sin p + r1 sin p cos q > > and eliminate the angles p, q. > > p is the angle in the x-y plane from a fixed direction to the centre of > the sweeping circle; q is the "angle of elevation" from the centre of > this circle to a point on the torus as seen along the line from the > origin to the centre of this circle; r is the distance from the origin > to the point in the x-y plane vertically beneath the point on the torus.) I think you can express this equation in a slightly more simple form, namely: (sqrt(x^2 + y^2) - a)^2 + z^2 =3D b^2 where a>b Namely revolve a circle of radius b about an exterior line in its plane, that is distance a from the center. Gives a ring shaped torus. At last the mailing list is becoming interesting :-) Alexander ------------------------------------- Alexander Volovics Dept of Methodology & Statistics Maastricht University, Maastricht, NL ------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4608254175092903973==-- From zulfiqar@shaw.wave.ca Mon Feb 8 22:50:55 1999 From: zulfiqar@shaw.wave.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Cyrix 6x86 P150+ Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 17:50:55 -0500 Message-ID: <36BF6A4F.B38CA5F8@shaw.wave.ca> In-Reply-To: <36BF5A2F.113931CE@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1935642682335748817==" --===============1935642682335748817== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found an excellent deal for a Cyrix 6x86 P150+ based system. Only 150 Canadian Dollars with 1 Gig HDD and 14 inch monitor!! :-) However, before I go ahead and get it, I wanted to know if there was any linux related bugs in the chip. I remember reading that Cyrix chips were buggy under Linux, and that a "workaround" had to be done. I will be using this comp as a Masq server......so, speed is not of major concern to me. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1935642682335748817==-- From jlkreps@navix.net Mon Feb 8 23:24:03 1999 From: jlkreps@navix.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 17:24:03 -0600 Message-ID: <36BF7213.55D5F58B@navix.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9087183156979726194==" --===============9087183156979726194== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (Ted Harding) wrote: > The alternative, as Alex says and as has been forcefully said in other > places, is "UNIX Wars" all over again. This is what marginalised UNIX for > many major software ISVs; the ones that stayed in were mainly those that It also brings to mind the computer wars of 1978-1981. There were tons of little boxes out there, led by Apple and the Trash80, but IBM fairly well standardized the hardware. Now we are living with the outdated architechture. Then the OS wars between DesqView, Windows , OS/2, Gym and a couple of others. In each war the best designed product didn't win, only the best marketed one (or the vendor using the least scrupples). Linux has avoided the "Unix Wars" by ignoring those that would rekindle the flames. Personally, I like the independence the Linux allows. Can you imagine if the Qt toolkit was declared the standard and Xwindows programs written without it were shunned? Confine yourself to KDE for the next 10-15 years? Why? Let freedom ring, let inovation flourish.=20 There will be enought "standardization" by virtue of the number of packages sold, but each should allow some place in their distro for wiggle room so improvements can burst out. Jerry - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9087183156979726194==-- From verdesoft@verdesoft.com Tue Feb 9 00:17:41 1999 From: verdesoft@verdesoft.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kernel Compile Failure Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 16:17:41 -0800 Message-ID: <36BF7EA5.F34E0DFE@verdesoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0601926045273859837==" --===============0601926045273859837== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was just trying to recompile my kernal and am having a major problem with it. I am trying to recompile to get ppp working on the system. I started by using make xconfig to change the configuration of the kernel and then tried to recompile it. I typed #make dep clean zImage' to start the compile of the kernel. It started out fine and then simply locked up. I can't do anything with it except reboot. I am afraid of what this might do to the system though. Fortionataly I am using a system I don't really care about, but I don't want to have to re-install everything. Does anyone know what I should do and once I reboot is there anything I should check or test to make sure there is nothing wrong with the system? Thanks, Aaron _________________________________________________ mailto:verdesoft(a)verdesoft.com= VerdeSoft Internet Services http://www.verdesoft.com/> Touchstone Climbing Inc. Phone: (510) 654-2510 http://www.touchstoneclimbing.com/> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0601926045273859837==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Tue Feb 9 00:43:25 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 19:43:25 -0500 Message-ID: <36BF84AD.EBDEA242@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <36BF7213.55D5F58B@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2748271302727509876==" --===============2748271302727509876== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > the flames. Personally, I like the independence the Linux allows. Can > you imagine if the Qt toolkit was declared the standard and Xwindows > programs written without it were shunned? Confine yourself to KDE for > the next 10-15 years? Why? Let freedom ring, let inovation flourish. > There will be enought "standardization" by virtue of the number of > packages sold, but each should allow some place in their distro for > wiggle room so improvements can burst out. > Jerry YA!!! I was flipping thru the dictionary the other day, and came upon the word "linus". It is defined as " a poet and musician, the inventor of melody and rythm".=20 That is the way I felt when I first took up Linux, it was a great "instrument" for implementing creative ideas. Now, it feels like some "evil maestro" is trying to take the podium, trying to force us all to play some boring old song. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2748271302727509876==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Tue Feb 9 01:16:11 1999 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 01:16:11 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BF7213.55D5F58B@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0707170969158347623==" --===============0707170969158347623== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08-Feb-99 Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: >=20 > (Ted Harding) wrote: >=20 >> The alternative, as Alex says and as has been forcefully said in other >> places, is "UNIX Wars" all over again. This is what marginalised UNIX >> for many major software ISVs; the ones that stayed in were mainly >> those that >=20 > Linux has avoided the "Unix Wars" by ignoring those that would rekindle > the flames. Personally, I like the independence the Linux allows. Can > you imagine if the Qt toolkit was declared the standard and Xwindows > programs written without it were shunned? Confine yourself to KDE for > the next 10-15 years? Why? Let freedom ring, let inovation flourish.=20 > There will be enought "standardization" by virtue of the number of > packages sold, but each should allow some place in their distro for > wiggle room so improvements can burst out. > Jerry This is also a point of view for which I have strong sympathy. If the only issue were "what would the community of Linux users, breathing the free air, like", I think the answer would be along Jerry's lines. But the current flowering of interest in Linux in the "real software" world (quotation marks deliberate ... ) -- while, at present, the Open Source software for similar purposes continues to lag (and, in the case of Windows compatibility which many of us genuinely need to achieve, continues to be almost lacking except in commercial packages) -- points to a need for a *standard* Linux that any ISV can debelop for and know what the target is. As I pointed out earlier: compare FreeBSD. FreeBSD is what is on the FreeBSD ftp site. There are not 15 versions of it out there, incompatible at a basic level. If you develop for FreeBSD you *know* what it's going to be running on (to within shifts between versions, but that doesn't seem to throw up many problems). Agreed this is a dilemma. Best wishes, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 09-Feb-99 Time: 01:16:11 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0707170969158347623==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Tue Feb 9 01:45:46 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Monitor specs www site ? Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 20:45:46 -0500 Message-ID: <36BF934A.F5703FD5@connix.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990208160612.00b06280@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4600237533538360204==" --===============4600237533538360204== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Samy Elashmawy wrote: > I have an old leading edge monitor Model CMC 1212AD , Anyone know whwere I > can get the specks for it. I have heard there are some www sights that > archive this type of info ?? I dont know if this will help you but... http://www.mindspring.com/~nune= z/info/monitors/> http://junitec.ist.utl.pt/einfo/pc/= index.html> rob Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4600237533538360204==-- From verdesoft@verdesoft.com Tue Feb 9 02:45:56 1999 From: verdesoft@verdesoft.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel Compile Failure Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 18:45:56 -0800 Message-ID: <36BFA164.55CA7C0D@verdesoft.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Kernel Compile Failure> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5331560609450559003==" --===============5331560609450559003== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for giving me the advice. Everything seems to be working so far. The computer is booting right now. What about the kernel now, should I try and compile again? I have been having a hard time getting my an internet connection to work with ppp and would really like to try this again. Not to mention that it would just be nice to know how to recompile the kernel when I need to add something. Thanks, Aaron Ralph Clark wrote: >=20 > Aaron Prohaska wrote: >=20 > > I was just trying to recompile my kernal and am having a major problem > > with it. I am trying to recompile to get ppp working on the system. I > > started by using make xconfig to change the configuration of the kernel > > and then tried to recompile it. I typed #make dep clean zImage' to start > > the compile of the kernel. It started out fine and then simply locked > > up. I can't do anything with it except reboot. I am afraid of what this > > might do to the system though. Fortionataly I am using a system I don't > > really care about, but I don't want to have to re-install everything. > > Does anyone know what I should do and once I reboot is there anything I > > should check or test to make sure there is nothing wrong with the > > system? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Aaron > > _________________________________________________ > > >=20 > Don't worry; long experience has taught me that Unix file systems in genera= l and > the Linux ext2fs file system in particular are very robust. When you reboot= the > system will automatically run fsck on the uncleanly-dismounted partitions a= nd > this will clear any lost inodes (the Unix equivalent of DOS's "lost chains"= ). >=20 > If fsck doesn't run it is either because (1) the partition was not written = to > after the last time it was mounted, or (2) you've somehow disabled fsck from > being run automatically. If you are not sure then try to avoid writing to a= ny of > the partitions: bring the system down to single user mode by typing in "ini= t S" > then run fsck manually on each file system partition, by entering the comma= nd: > "/sbin/fsck -t ...". I expect that you will need to p= ut > ext2 for your fstype and ... will be a space-separated list of = all > the disk partition device files that are formatted with ext2fs. Thus for > example: >=20 > /sbin/fsck -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2 /dev/hda3 >=20 > Don' t include your swap partition! >=20 > If these lost nodes occur they will only be from the ends of files that wer= e in > the middle of being written to when the system was unexpectedly taken down. > Normally they are insignificant temporary or "work" files from the /tmp > directory or from editor sessions for example. Obviously any editor sessions > just in memory will be lost but nothing else should be affected. >=20 > In extreme cases (rare) a directory may be destroyed it is is being written= to > at the time, but as long as the files therein were not open for writing > themselves, fsck will retain them intact in the 'lost+found' directory in t= he > top-level directory of the partition concerned. Thus depending on how your = hard > disk is partitioned you can look in /lost+found, /usr/lost+found, > /home/lost+found and so on. Then when you retrieve the files you only have = to > figure out what directory they live in and recreate it. However, this has n= ever > happened to me with Linux in the five years I've been running it despite us= ing > both cached and uncached disk controllers and suffering many power supply > brownouts and other hardware failures. >=20 > Ralph >=20 > -- > rclark(a)virgosolutions.demon.co.uk Ralph Clark, Virgo Solutions Ltd= (UK) > __ _ > / / (_)__ __ ____ __ * Powerful * Flexible * Compatible * Reliable * > / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / *Well Supported * Thousands of New Users Every D= ay* > /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ The Cost Effective Choice - Linux Means Busine= ss! --=20 _________________________________________________ mailto:verdesoft(a)verdesoft.com= VerdeSoft Internet Services http://www.verdesoft.com/> Touchstone Climbing Inc. Phone: (510) 654-2510 http://www.touchstoneclimbing.com/> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5331560609450559003==-- From verdesoft@verdesoft.com Tue Feb 9 02:48:05 1999 From: verdesoft@verdesoft.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Kernel compile Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 18:48:05 -0800 Message-ID: <36BFA1E5.68078C0A@verdesoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6315600709069896317==" --===============6315600709069896317== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is it safest to do the recompile through the command line only? I didn't think about this before, but will it make a difference that I compiled through x windows? Aaron=20 _________________________________________________ mailto:verdesoft(a)verdesoft.com= VerdeSoft Internet Services http://www.verdesoft.com/> Touchstone Climbing Inc. Phone: (510) 654-2510 http://www.touchstoneclimbing.com/> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6315600709069896317==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Tue Feb 9 03:02:00 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel compile Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 22:02:00 -0500 Message-ID: <36BFA527.961EBF0D@connix.com> In-Reply-To: <36BFA1E5.68078C0A@verdesoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6736081314720529164==" --===============6736081314720529164== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aaron Prohaska wrote: > Is it safest to do the recompile through the command line only? I didn't > think about this before, but will it make a difference that I compiled > through x windows? > > Aaron If you're using 5.3 ppp is built into the kernel as is firewall and masquerading You have to make sure you have ppp installed with the installion though, check in yast/install upgrade packages that you have it installed. If you'd like an easy way to connect use wvdial as recommended on this list. See my page for a link to wvdial. That should get you up and running with ppp rob Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6736081314720529164==-- From verdesoft@verdesoft.com Tue Feb 9 03:23:10 1999 From: verdesoft@verdesoft.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel compile Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 19:23:10 -0800 Message-ID: <36BFAA1E.7AA01D87@verdesoft.com> In-Reply-To: <36BFA527.961EBF0D@connix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6885921990663730328==" --===============6885921990663730328== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why is it that everyone uses wvdial to connect to the net? I would think that by now there should be an easier way to Linux ppp working. This is one thing that has really surprised me. Aaron dizzy wrote: >=20 > Aaron Prohaska wrote: >=20 > > Is it safest to do the recompile through the command line only? I didn't > > think about this before, but will it make a difference that I compiled > > through x windows? > > > > Aaron >=20 > If you're using 5.3 ppp is built into the kernel as is firewall and > masquerading > You have to make sure you have ppp installed with the installion though, > check in yast/install upgrade packages that you have it installed. > If you'd like an easy way to connect use wvdial as recommended on this list. >=20 > See my page for a link to wvdial. That should get you up and running with > ppp > rob > Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73= /LBM.htm> --=20 _________________________________________________ mailto:verdesoft(a)verdesoft.com= VerdeSoft Internet Services http://www.verdesoft.com/> Touchstone Climbing Inc. Phone: (510) 654-2510 http://www.touchstoneclimbing.com/> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6885921990663730328==-- From verdesoft@verdesoft.com Tue Feb 9 03:42:57 1999 From: verdesoft@verdesoft.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Recompile Error Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 19:42:57 -0800 Message-ID: <36BFAEC1.CD86C203@verdesoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0829871373928422300==" --===============0829871373928422300== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got a little further this time. These are the last nine lines of output I just got. tools/build bootsect setup compressed/vmlinux.out CURRENT > zImage Root device is (3, 3) Boot sector 512 bytes. Setup is 4408 bytes. System is 537 kB System is too big make[1]: *** [zImage] Error 1 make[1]: *** Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.0.35.SuSE/arch/i386/boot' make *** [zImage] Error 2 Does anyone know what that is telling me? Aaron _________________________________________________ mailto:verdesoft(a)verdesoft.com= VerdeSoft Internet Services http://www.verdesoft.com/> Touchstone Climbing Inc. Phone: (510) 654-2510 http://www.touchstoneclimbing.com/> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0829871373928422300==-- From leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Tue Feb 9 03:49:52 1999 From: leonmcclatchey@homemail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Connect / delay ?? Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 21:49:52 -0600 Message-ID: <36BFB060.85A3E5DC@homemail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2026283860505832505==" --===============2026283860505832505== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "James (Jim) Hatridge" wrote: > Hi all; > > I'm using PPP at the command line to connect to my ISP. Sometimes it is > very slow or worst it picks up the phone but does not make a connection. > > Does anyone have a script to delay my fetchpop & sendmails commands until > there is a connection? Perhaps checks for a connection before it runs the > rest of my script? Right now I first run ppp-on and then (by hand) run the > rest of my script. > Did you check into the possibility of using diald or even the demand_dial option of ppp? (ppp dial-on-demand displays an error with kernel 2.034 but it does work). However, I've got diald set up here and then use crontab to get and send mail 3 times a day. Works great here:-). BTW, you could also possibly use the fetchmail -d option in which case it will remain sleeping until a connection is made:) -- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com Linux User 78912 (Linux Box) $100 invested at 7 0nterest for 100 years will become $100,000, at which time it will be worth absolutely nothing. -- Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love" - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2026283860505832505==-- From leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Tue Feb 9 04:03:35 1999 From: leonmcclatchey@homemail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] samba 2 and suse 6.x Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 22:03:35 -0600 Message-ID: <36BFB397.195C2146@homemail.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990208093354.00b2b498@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0263206046980251838==" --===============0263206046980251838== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Samy Elashmawy wrote: > >6.0 does not come with Samba 2.0, since it wasn't released at that time. > >We will have a package on the ftp Server, though. SuSE Linux 6.1 will have > >it included. > But Samba 2.0 does run a lot smoother then the previous release, it has a bit more documentation with it, and it's got a hyperlink configuration set up that is a real pleasure to use:-) -- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com Linux User 78912 (Linux Box) $100 invested at 7 0nterest for 100 years will become $100,000, at which time it will be worth absolutely nothing. -- Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love" - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0263206046980251838==-- From deem@wdm.com Tue Feb 9 04:13:41 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel compile Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 19:13:41 -0900 Message-ID: <199902090413.TAA01970@wdm.com> In-Reply-To: <36BFAA1E.7AA01D87@verdesoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7941710842116561704==" --===============7941710842116561704== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aaron Prohaska wrote: >=20 > Why is it that everyone uses wvdial to connect to the net? I would think > that by now there should be an easier way to Linux ppp working. This is > one thing that has really surprised me. Well not everyone....I use XISP which is the easiest I have found. -Dee McKinney Anchorage, AK - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7941710842116561704==-- From budr@sirinet.net Tue Feb 9 04:15:46 1999 From: budr@sirinet.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel compile Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 22:15:46 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BFAA1E.7AA01D87@verdesoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4819106858328514157==" --===============4819106858328514157== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aaron Prohaska writes: > Why is it that everyone uses wvdial to connect to the net? I would think > that by now there should be an easier way to Linux ppp working. This is > one thing that has really surprised me. I use kppp. --=20 Bud Rogers http://www.sirine= t.net/~budr/zamm.html> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4819106858328514157==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Tue Feb 9 04:23:56 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Recompile Error Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 23:23:56 -0500 Message-ID: <36BFB85C.58101C98@connix.com> In-Reply-To: <36BFAEC1.CD86C203@verdesoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4895423903736725923==" --===============4895423903736725923== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aaron Prohaska wrote: > I got a little further this time. These are the last nine lines of > output I just got. > > tools/build bootsect setup compressed/vmlinux.out CURRENT > zImage > Root device is (3, 3) > Boot sector 512 bytes. > Setup is 4408 bytes. > System is 537 kB > System is too big > make[1]: *** [zImage] Error 1 > make[1]: *** Leaving directory > '/usr/src/linux-2.0.35.SuSE/arch/i386/boot' > make *** [zImage] Error 2 > > Does anyone know what that is telling me? Its telling you the your new kernel is too big, so... instead of using zImage use bzImage (big) zImage this will allow compression of your new kernel. You probably have more than you really need in the kernel tho. As far as wvdial... Its the most popular because its the easiest you could do the suseppp thing but then you'll have to modify the scripts *slightly* for your particullar dialup then use the command /etc/suseppp/scripts/ppp-up generic if you're interested you can see my scripts at the bottom of this page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/WvDial.htm= A> actually doing your own dialup makes using diald etc much easier but more work initally. If you're only interested in getting connected then wvdial is the quickest also... I dont beleive you've said what vers of suse you have. Again, if you have 5.3 ppp is included in the kernel If you type pppd at the prompt and get a bunch of gibberish scrolling by then you have pppd on your system and the kernel is moot as far as pppd goes rob Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4895423903736725923==-- From lunaslide@pacbell.net Tue Feb 9 04:36:10 1999 From: lunaslide@pacbell.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Recompile Error Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 20:36:10 -0800 Message-ID: <36BFBB3A.33B2DD67@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <36BFAEC1.CD86C203@verdesoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8660090326253070073==" --===============8660090326253070073== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aaron Prohaska wrote: >=20 > I got a little further this time. These are the last nine lines of > output I just got. >=20 > tools/build bootsect setup compressed/vmlinux.out CURRENT > zImage > Root device is (3, 3) > Boot sector 512 bytes. > Setup is 4408 bytes. > System is 537 kB > System is too big > make[1]: *** [zImage] Error 1 > make[1]: *** Leaving directory > '/usr/src/linux-2.0.35.SuSE/arch/i386/boot' > make *** [zImage] Error 2 >=20 > Does anyone know what that is telling me? Use bzImage instead of zImage. You could also go back and reconfigure the kernel using more things as modules. --=20 lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * * =20 In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is *=20 getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is =20 stupidity. * -Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas * =20 * * * * * - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8660090326253070073==-- From medavid@ix.netcom.com Tue Feb 9 04:46:37 1999 From: medavid@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Recompile Error Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 20:46:37 -0800 Message-ID: <01be53e7$2d638440$9a42d8ce@win98> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Recompile Error> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9015794365756148770==" --===============9015794365756148770== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh, I run into this all the time. You either need to remove some drivers from the kernel, or try "make bzImage". Mark -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Prohaska To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 8:28 PM Subject: [SuSE Linux] Recompile Error > >I got a little further this time. These are the last nine lines of >output I just got. > >tools/build bootsect setup compressed/vmlinux.out CURRENT > zImage >Root device is (3, 3) >Boot sector 512 bytes. >Setup is 4408 bytes. >System is 537 kB >System is too big >make[1]: *** [zImage] Error 1 >make[1]: *** Leaving directory >'/usr/src/linux-2.0.35.SuSE/arch/i386/boot' >make *** [zImage] Error 2 > >Does anyone know what that is telling me? > >Aaron >_________________________________________________ > >mailto:verdesoft(a)verdesoft.co= m >VerdeSoft Internet Services >http://www.verdesoft.com/> > >Touchstone Climbing Inc. >Phone: (510) 654-2510 >http://www.touchstoneclimbing.com/> >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at = http://www.suse.com/Supp= ort/Doku/FAQ/> and the >archiv at ht= tp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9015794365756148770==-- From jsnorman@megsinet.net Tue Feb 9 04:53:22 1999 From: jsnorman@megsinet.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Cyrix 6x86 P150+ Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 22:53:22 -0600 Message-ID: <36BFBF41.25052AC8@megsinet.net> In-Reply-To: <36BF6A4F.B38CA5F8@shaw.wave.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7760951153591748167==" --===============7760951153591748167== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No bugs. I use a Cyrix MediaGX system (6x86 core) without any problem on the ultraportable NEC 120LT. - Jeff Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: > I found an excellent deal for a Cyrix 6x86 P150+ based system. Only 150 > Canadian Dollars with 1 Gig HDD and 14 inch monitor!! :-) > > However, before I go ahead and get it, I wanted to know if there was any > linux related bugs in the chip. > > I remember reading that Cyrix chips were buggy under Linux, and that a > "workaround" had to be done. > > I will be using this comp as a Masq server......so, speed is not of major > concern to me. > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7760951153591748167==-- From jperser@airmail.net Tue Feb 9 05:17:41 1999 From: jperser@airmail.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Dynamic IP and Masquerading Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 23:17:41 -0600 Message-ID: <36BFC4F5.784404E3@airmail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4811363905865938022==" --===============4811363905865938022== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been setting up a Linux machine in the hopes of getting IP-Masquerading working. To my surprise it appears from all of the documentation that I've read (SuSE manual and mini howto's) that you MUST have a static IP for Masquerading to work. Most ISP accounts in the US are of the dynamic variety when dealing with non-corporate users. As a result I would think that someone has solved this problem. Is there a particular howto out there that provides an IP-Masquerading configuration with a dynamic IP? If this can't be done, is there some other solution? SOCKS? regs, -jrp - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4811363905865938022==-- From verdesoft@verdesoft.com Tue Feb 9 06:32:36 1999 From: verdesoft@verdesoft.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Thanks Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 22:32:36 -0800 Message-ID: <36BFD684.9F2D17F1@verdesoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0758921697260728422==" --===============0758921697260728422== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for all the help everyone :) So I guess not everyone uses wvdail. Anyway, I think what I would like to know how to do is get a Linux system online without using any 'extra's' so that I will be able to setup any machine in the future. I would like to be able to get online without even having to use suseppp, if possible. I am using Suse 5.3 right now, though I am sure I will upgrade it to v6 w/ kernel 2.2 Thanks again, Aaron=20 _________________________________________________ mailto:verdesoft(a)verdesoft.com= VerdeSoft Internet Services http://www.verdesoft.com/> Touchstone Climbing Inc. Phone: (510) 654-2510 http://www.touchstoneclimbing.com/> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0758921697260728422==-- From jpb@bigfoot.com Tue Feb 9 07:44:33 1999 From: jpb@bigfoot.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] News group vs Mail list Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 08:44:33 +0100 Message-ID: <36BFE761.53B74FED@bigfoot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5206826939777866309==" --===============5206826939777866309== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just wonder if anyone from SuSE reads this list. Although I find this mail list extremely informative, the mass of E-Mail traffic makes it almost impossible not to miss personal mail.. Is there any reason why SuSE stays with a mailing list instead of opting for a news server? Example of this route is the Norwegen browser company Opera who is located at opera.nta.no PaulS/MIME Cryptographic Signature --===============5206826939777866309==-- From mperry@basin.com Tue Feb 9 08:00:22 1999 From: mperry@basin.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Im quakin :) in my boots Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:00:22 -0800 Message-ID: <199902090800.AAA00866@mperry.basin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4990354697306185392==" --===============4990354697306185392== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tonite was my nite to get quake2 working in linux. This is one impressive game and the graphics are topnotch on the linux side. I dont have sound here but even so, quake2 rocks in silent mode. I remember getting doom to work awhile ago. Quake 2 just makes doom look rather pathetic. The readme file actually is helpful which is impressive. The readme spells out exactly how to get quake 2 working in linux and what the different renderers do. It doesnt hurt that ID released an rpm file which installs on suse 5.3 without a whisper... Did I ever say that this stuff is cool? :) Thanks SuSE. =20 --=20 Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com ------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4990354697306185392==-- From k01164@ko.hhs.dk Tue Feb 9 08:32:32 1999 From: k01164@ko.hhs.dk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel compile Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 08:32:32 +0000 Message-ID:In-Reply-To: <36BFAA1E.7AA01D87@verdesoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9082827217597082175==" --===============9082827217597082175== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Aaron Prohaska wrote: >=20 > Why is it that everyone uses wvdial to connect to the net? I would think > that by now there should be an easier way to Linux ppp working. This is > one thing that has really surprised me. >=20 > Aaron Not everyone does. I use the suseppp included in the 5.3 dist. The real problem is not that ppp is hard to set up, because if you know the correct options it is quite easy. The problem is that most ISP tech support people don't know their own system. They only know how to set it up in Win95. One thing (actuallu two) that often need to be added to ppp options is=20 ipcp-accept-local ipcp accept-remote This tells pppd that it should allow the remote computer to specify what IP number your computer has during this connection and what IP number your gateway has. If your ISP uses dynamic IPs (like most ISPs) this is probably required to get it to work. If you have a static IP, it can't hurt (in my experience). Why these aren't included in the standard suseppp setup is beyond me. The reason many people use wvdial, is that it allows for many different ISP's systems, so that the info for setting up ppp under Win95 will usually be enough to set wvdial up. Regards Ole Kofoed Hansen - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9082827217597082175==-- From grimmer@suse.de Tue Feb 9 08:53:18 1999 From: grimmer@suse.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Cyrix 6x86 P150+ Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 09:53:18 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BF6A4F.B38CA5F8@shaw.wave.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1882987761151528367==" --===============1882987761151528367== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: > I found an excellent deal for a Cyrix 6x86 P150+ based system. Only > 150 Canadian Dollars with 1 Gig HDD and 14 inch monitor!! :-) >=20 > However, before I go ahead and get it, I wanted to know if there was > any linux related bugs in the chip. >=20 > I remember reading that Cyrix chips were buggy under Linux, and that a > "workaround" had to be done. >=20 > I will be using this comp as a Masq server......so, speed is not of > major concern to me. Check the The Linux Cyrix/IBM 6x86 mini-HOWTO at: http://gwyn.tux.org/~balsa/linux/cyrix/= > Bye, LenZ --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer(a)suse.de = Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer> 90443 Nuernberg, Germa= ny - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1882987761151528367==-- From ralph@virgosolutions.demon.co.uk Tue Feb 9 09:40:18 1999 From: ralph@virgosolutions.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel compile Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 09:40:18 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BFA1E5.68078C0A@verdesoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5082588509060501141==" --===============5082588509060501141== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It makes no difference. I've found the Xconfig program to be very reliable. I'd suggest you stick to using that because it makes it easy to go back and change something you set earlier without having to start again. And it gives you useful help hints on most of the items. Ralph rclark(a)virgosolutions.demon.co.uk Ralph Clark, Virgo Solutions Ltd (= UK) __ _ / / (_)__ __ ____ __ * Powerful * Flexible * Compatible * Reliable * / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / *Well Supported * Thousands of New Users Every Day* /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ The Cost Effective Choice - Linux Means Business! On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Aaron Prohaska wrote: >=20 > Is it safest to do the recompile through the command line only? I didn't > think about this before, but will it make a difference that I compiled > through x windows? >=20 > Aaron=20 > _________________________________________________ >=20 > mailto:verdesoft(a)verdesoft.c= om > VerdeSoft Internet Services > http://www.verdesoft.com/> >=20 > Touchstone Climbing Inc. > Phone: (510) 654-2510 > http://www.touchstoneclimbing.com/> > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5082588509060501141==-- From ralph@virgosolutions.demon.co.uk Tue Feb 9 09:47:43 1999 From: ralph@virgosolutions.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel compile Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 09:47:43 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36BFAA1E.7AA01D87@verdesoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5653251883142933893==" --===============5653251883142933893== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is. it is a dial-on-demand demon called called diald. It includes a versatile "connect" shell script for your PPP chat stuff (you just need to plug in your ISP's number and your login sequence) and a sample configuration file that allows you to control as precisely what you like exactly what kind of IP packets will cause the link to go up and down. It's what I've been using for the last year and a half and I've had no problems with it. It's included in your SuSE distribution. As installed by YaST, it will use the suseppp chat script instead which=20 works fine, but it is quite easy to plug in the connect shell script instead if you want to. The only thing you are likely to want to change in the diald configuration file is to get it to ignore netbios packets if you have samba support enabled. Ralph rclark(a)virgosolutions.demon.co.uk Ralph Clark, Virgo Solutions Ltd (= UK) __ _ / / (_)__ __ ____ __ * Powerful * Flexible * Compatible * Reliable * / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / *Well Supported * Thousands of New Users Every Day* /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ The Cost Effective Choice - Linux Means Business! On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Aaron Prohaska wrote: >=20 > Why is it that everyone uses wvdial to connect to the net? I would think > that by now there should be an easier way to Linux ppp working. This is > one thing that has really surprised me. >=20 > Aaron >=20 > dizzy wrote: > >=20 > > Aaron Prohaska wrote: > >=20 > > > Is it safest to do the recompile through the command line only? I didn't > > > think about this before, but will it make a difference that I compiled > > > through x windows? > > > > > > Aaron > >=20 > > If you're using 5.3 ppp is built into the kernel as is firewall and > > masquerading > > You have to make sure you have ppp installed with the installion though, > > check in yast/install upgrade packages that you have it installed. > > If you'd like an easy way to connect use wvdial as recommended on this li= st. > >=20 > > See my page for a link to wvdial. That should get you up and running with > > ppp > > rob > > Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy7= 3/LBM.htm> >=20 > --=20 > _________________________________________________ >=20 > mailto:verdesoft(a)verdesoft.c= om > VerdeSoft Internet Services > http://www.verdesoft.com/> >=20 > Touchstone Climbing Inc. > Phone: (510) 654-2510 > http://www.touchstoneclimbing.com/> > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> >=20 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5653251883142933893==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Tue Feb 9 10:39:50 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Monitor Configuration Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 10:39:50 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990209103950.00b1c520@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1873409376746770607==" --===============1873409376746770607== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Opps , I posted the wrong specs .Correct ones are Leading Edge/Daewoo CMC 1412AD 14 inch monitor. Real old , 486 days... I am tring to set it up under xwins , and am getting errors , either the xserver hangs , or I find no resolutions supported. I cant find any monitor specs for this monitor , the sight I check do not go back far enough. Old monitor G: All I need are some basic plain vanilla configeration settings , ie Vetical/horizontal , and xserver settings. pc is used as a Amba server , so nothing fancy is needed , but I would like to be able to use xwin with the machine. It has a matrox millenium card with 2 Meg ram . - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1873409376746770607==-- From andreas@gerstlauer.de Tue Feb 9 11:01:23 1999 From: andreas@gerstlauer.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Staroffice help. Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 03:01:23 -0800 Message-ID: <199902091101.DAA07541@pv116.pv.reshsg.uci.edu> In-Reply-To: <36BEDFCD.86C5EA40@epinet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6581632601122948224==" --===============6581632601122948224== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > So my question is how do I go about installing staroffice > > from the version I will download from stardivision, using SuSE 6.0??=20 >=20 > I would love someone to contradict me on this, but I can't seem to do > it! >=20 > It insists on changes to /lib to reflect glibc2.0.7. I don't trust those > changes. Even when I did install it and get it to work once, it stopped > working the next day. >=20 Well, I got StarOffice 5.0 to work on a SuSE 6.0 without changing the SuSE installation. It seems to work fine so far (although I haven't tried it extensively yet). What I did is the following: at the beginning of installation StarOffice complains about not finding the glibc2.0.7 libs and recommends installing the ones supplied with StarOffice. Now instead of installing the libs I created links to the glibc libs that come with SuSE. StarOffice actually is able to work with the libs being only installed locally in the StarOffice install dir (e.g. in /opt/Office50/lib); it's mentioned somewhere in the README as far as I remember... So one solution would be to install the glibc libs that come with SO into that dir (ignoring the error message about /lib/ld-2.0.7 being incompatible). However, as it turned out it works with simple links, too. In essence, before installing StarOffice create the links in the StarOffice destination lib dir (I'll include a list with the links below). Then perform the StarOffice installation. It ran without troubles for me and StarOffice seems to work, too. Hope it helps... Andreas ------ snipp ----- % mkdir /opt/Office50/lib (or any other dir where you want to install SO) -s /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ld-2.0.7.so -s /lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 libBrokenLocale-2.0.7.so -s /lib/libc.so.6 libc-2.0.7.so -s /lib/libcrypt.so.1 libcrypt-2.0.7.so=20 -s /lib/libdb.so.2 libdb-2.0.7.so -s /lib/libdl.so.2 libdl-2.0.7.so -s /lib/libm.so.6 libm-2.0.7.so -s /lib/libnsl.so.1 libnsl-2.0.7.so=20 -s /lib/libnss_compat.so.1 libnss_compat-2.0.7.so=20 -s /lib/libnss_db.so.1 libnss_db-2.0.7.so=20 -s /lib/libnss_dns.so.1 libnss_dns-2.0.7.so -s /lib/libnss_files.so.1 libnss_files-2.0.7.so -s /lib/libnss_nis.so.1 libnss_nis-2.0.7.so=20 -s /lib/libpthread.so.0 libpthread-0.7.so -s /lib/libresolv.so.2 libresolv-2.0.7.so -s /lib/libutil.so.1 libutil-2.0.7.so - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6581632601122948224==-- From andyford@nothnbut.net Tue Feb 9 11:40:27 1999 From: andyford@nothnbut.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Cyrix 6x86 P150+ Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 05:40:27 -0600 Message-ID: <36C01EAB.CC89447C@nothnbut.net> In-Reply-To: <36BF6A4F.B38CA5F8@shaw.wave.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6159292589179033952==" --===============6159292589179033952== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: >=20 > I found an excellent deal for a Cyrix 6x86 P150+ based system. Only 150 > Canadian Dollars with 1 Gig HDD and 14 inch monitor!! :-) >=20 > However, before I go ahead and get it, I wanted to know if there was any > linux related bugs in the chip. >=20 > I remember reading that Cyrix chips were buggy under Linux, and that a =18 This is purely anecdotal evidence, but I have a Cyrix P-166+ that works with name brand motherboards (FIC or Iwill), but it locks up every few=20 days on a cheap generic motherboard (biostar).=20 It could just be this chip, but ... --=20 yours, Andy - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6159292589179033952==-- From andyford@nothnbut.net Tue Feb 9 11:45:02 1999 From: andyford@nothnbut.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Dynamic IP and Masquerading Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 05:45:02 -0600 Message-ID: <36C01FBE.E61FCC36@nothnbut.net> In-Reply-To: <36BFC4F5.784404E3@airmail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5124110967952192607==" --===============5124110967952192607== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Perser wrote: >=20 > I've been setting up a Linux machine in the hopes of getting > IP-Masquerading working. To my surprise it appears from all of the > documentation that I've read (SuSE manual and mini howto's) that you > MUST have a static IP for Masquerading to work. > Most ISP accounts in the US are of the dynamic variety when dealing with > non-corporate users. As a result I would think that someone has solved > this problem. > Is there a particular howto out there that provides an IP-Masquerading > configuration with a dynamic IP? > If this can't be done, is there some other solution? SOCKS? I remember getting that impression from the docs also. But it works with dynamic=20 IP just fine. I'm doin it now.=18 --=20 yours, Andy - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5124110967952192607==-- From rachel@epinet.co.uk Tue Feb 9 12:06:37 1999 From: rachel@epinet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Staroffice help. Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:06:37 +0000 Message-ID: <36C024CD.30CFF495@epinet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199902091101.DAA07541@pv116.pv.reshsg.uci.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3979883688921740708==" --===============3979883688921740708== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andreas Gerstlauer wrote: >=20 > > > So my question is how do I go about installing staroffice > > > from the version I will download from stardivision, using SuSE 6.0?? > > > > I would love someone to contradict me on this, but I can't seem to do > > it! > > > > It insists on changes to /lib to reflect glibc2.0.7. I don't trust those > > changes. Even when I did install it and get it to work once, it stopped > > working the next day. > > >=20 > Well, I got StarOffice 5.0 to work on a SuSE 6.0 without changing the > SuSE installation. It seems to work fine so far (although I haven't > tried it extensively yet). [description snipped] OK, thanks, I'll try that. --=20 Rachel - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3979883688921740708==-- From Michael.Bielicki@Linkdesign.com Tue Feb 9 12:17:54 1999 From: Michael.Bielicki@Linkdesign.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Cyrix 6x86 P150+ Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 14:17:54 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36C01EAB.CC89447C@nothnbut.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7108616678526994708==" --===============7108616678526994708== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Problem with the Cyrix is the Heatsink. Take good care that the motherboa= rd has a good heatsinc and be prepared for a lot of energy being used. Besides this get a program called set6x86, I don't know where it is but you should be able to find it in freshmeat.net or yahoo :)) It lets you get the maximum speed out of the cyrix as well as let the cpu be turned to power save mode while idling. Cheers Michael BTW I am using a 6x86 166 with a ASUS T2P4 at 83 MHz Bus Speed with no rpoblems. Kernel Version is 2.2.1, all progbrams compiled with pgcc-1.1.1 and optimized mostly with -O6 -mcyrix6x86 On 09-Feb-99 Andy Ford wrote: >=20 > Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: >>=20 >> I found an excellent deal for a Cyrix 6x86 P150+ based system. Only 150 >> Canadian Dollars with 1 Gig HDD and 14 inch monitor!! :-) >>=20 >> However, before I go ahead and get it, I wanted to know if there was any >> linux related bugs in the chip. >>=20 >> I remember reading that Cyrix chips were buggy under Linux, and that a > =18 > This is purely anecdotal evidence, but I have a Cyrix P-166+ > that works > with name brand motherboards (FIC or Iwill), but it locks up > every few=20 > days on a cheap generic motherboard (biostar).=20 > It could just be this chip, but ... > --=20 > yours, > Andy > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Michael.Bielicki(a)Linkdesign.com Date: 09-Feb-99 Time: 14:15:34 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7108616678526994708==-- From jblosser@firinn.org Tue Feb 9 13:12:26 1999 From: jblosser@firinn.org To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Dynamic IP and Masquerading Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 08:12:26 -0500 Message-ID: <19990209081225.A14913@firinn.org> In-Reply-To: <36BFC4F5.784404E3@airmail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5309131591583719870==" --===============5309131591583719870== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --===============5309131591583719870==-- From rachel@epinet.co.uk Tue Feb 9 13:46:09 1999 From: rachel@epinet.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Problems with smbmount - SuSE 6.0 with 2.2.1 Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 13:46:09 +0000 Message-ID: <36C03C21.E00DF433@epinet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8182115520760149221==" --===============8182115520760149221== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eek! Suddenly I find I can't mount our NT servers! OK, I had the Samba 1.9-something as installed from SuSE 6.0, and I'm running kernel 2.2.1. I can print fine to a Samba printer (except from Word Perfect but that's another story), and I can log on using smbclient. But attempting to mount NT shares fails, with "Invalid argument". The exact same smbmount command on the system rebooted with SuSE 2.0.36 works fine. I tried upgrading to Samba 2.0 (2.0.0 as there's a SuSE rpm available for it, but smbmount itself reports version 2.0.2) but it made no difference. I tried taking SMB support out of the 2.2.1 kernel, and making it available as a module - with the module not loaded I get, unsurprisingly "Operation not supported by device", then I insmod it and as before, "Invalid argument". Username/password definitely correct, by the way. And no difference no matter how pedantic I get with the other options. Now, another mystery: I tried downloading and installing Samba 2.0.0 before, when I was still on SuSE 6.0 beta. That time I did a make-and-install rather than from an rpm, (and never did finish installing eg: man pages which were also very different) and the smbmount I got was *completely* different - different syntax, different man pages etc. (eg: instead of mbmount //
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/ -U -P -u it was mbmount "\\\\ \\ " -c 'mount -u ' Very odd, but it worked (except that it didn't keep the sessions alive). But now, when I've reinstalled this 2.0.0, it's just as it was before. Confused. --=20 Rachel - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8182115520760149221==-- From jblosser@firinn.org Tue Feb 9 14:17:53 1999 From: jblosser@firinn.org To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Dynamic IP and Masquerading Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 09:17:53 -0500 Message-ID: <19990209091753.C15038@firinn.org> In-Reply-To: <19990209081225.A14913@firinn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7636266197951409384==" --===============7636266197951409384== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --===============7636266197951409384==-- From bshelton@ole.net Tue Feb 9 14:59:21 1999 From: bshelton@ole.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Kernel compile Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 09:59:21 -0500 Message-ID: <19990209095921.C5879@ole.net> In-Reply-To:
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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4894821797026821077==" --===============4894821797026821077== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 09:40:18AM +0000, Ralph Clark wrote: >=20 >=20 > It makes no difference. I've found the Xconfig program to be very > reliable. I'd suggest you stick to using that because it makes it easy to > go back and change something you set earlier without having to start > again. And it gives you useful help hints on most of the items. "make menuconfig" allows the same, without the memory usage of xwindows. If memory is a problem, he can "init 2" then "make menuconfig; make dep clean zlilo modules modules_install" and if successful, reboot and bes back in xwindows before he knows it. --=20 Brad Shelton bshelton(a)ole.net On Line Exchange ht= tp://ole.net> Detroit News http://detnews.com> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4894821797026821077==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Tue Feb 9 15:57:54 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Diamond Speedstar A50 AGP w 8 ngram AND xf86config Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 15:57:54 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990209155754.00af3c80@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4887295425503768144==" --===============4887295425503768144== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have Installed Suse 6.0 I tried to run Sax , but this failed to load , I got as far a blank black screen. Use xf86 config and set it up for the diamond A50 card w 8 meg , sis 6326 chipset and xf86-svga server. on runing stsrtx I get the following "the file xf86-xxxx (binarie of xserver) doesent seem to be a binarie file. Pleas check it and /or install a new xserver binary" Any Idea what is wrong ?? Thanks Samy Elashmawy - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4887295425503768144==-- From naceur@wanadoo.fr Tue Feb 9 16:01:02 1999 From: naceur@wanadoo.fr To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Vote for SuSE Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:01:02 +0100 Message-ID: <36C05BBE.224C46F7@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5110075158673980630==" --===============5110075158673980630== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope that SuSE will be boosted with our votes ! I am sure that the people how used to work with Unixes like HP, Solaris on workstations or Windows would find SuSE very nice. This is the real comparison ! But difficult to do We need to advertise more towards those communities. Naceur - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============5110075158673980630==-- From Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net Tue Feb 9 16:40:50 1999 From: Anthony.Schlemmer@gte.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Dynamic IP and Masquerading Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 08:40:50 -0800 Message-ID: <36C06512.2A174E70@gte.net> In-Reply-To: <36BFC4F5.784404E3@airmail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3727281196512552394==" --===============3727281196512552394== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Perser wrote: >=20 > I've been setting up a Linux machine in the hopes of getting > IP-Masquerading working. To my surprise it appears from all of the > documentation that I've read (SuSE manual and mini howto's) that you > MUST have a static IP for Masquerading to work. > Most ISP accounts in the US are of the dynamic variety when dealing with > non-corporate users. As a result I would think that someone has solved > this problem. > Is there a particular howto out there that provides an IP-Masquerading > configuration with a dynamic IP? > If this can't be done, is there some other solution? SOCKS? >=20 > regs, > -jrp >=20 > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> I use IP Masquerading in conjunction with diald for a dialup PPP connection and I get an IP address assigned dynamically. I have a couple of firewall rule files scripts that are executed automatically when diald brings the modem connection up and down. The way I get the dynamically assigned IP address for my server from the PPP connection is with the following statment in my firewall rules script: ISP_IP=3D`ifconfig ppp0 | grep 'inet addr' | awk '{print $2}' | sed -e "s/addr\://"` =20 I execute the script with the "ip-up" directive in my diald.conf file. If you're interested I can forward you my script and configuration files I use for my server. Tony --=20 Anthony.Schlemmer(a)gte.net - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3727281196512552394==-- From brauki@cityweb.de Tue Feb 9 16:42:27 1999 From: brauki@cityweb.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] LSB project: succes or failure? Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:42:27 +0100 Message-ID: <36C06573.CAB2D145@cityweb.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4834055665517143946==" --===============4834055665517143946== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > On 08-Feb-99 Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote: > > > > (Ted Harding) wrote: > > > >> The alternative, as Alex says and as has been forcefully said in other > >> places, is "UNIX Wars" all over again. This is what marginalised UNIX > >> for many major software ISVs; the ones that stayed in were mainly > >> those that > > > > Linux has avoided the "Unix Wars" by ignoring those that would rekindle > > the flames. Personally, I like the independence the Linux allows. Can > > you imagine if the Qt toolkit was declared the standard and Xwindows > > programs written without it were shunned? Confine yourself to KDE for > > the next 10-15 years? Why? Let freedom ring, let inovation flourish. I=C5=BDd like to download a say KDE or gnome rpm, and install it on my Linux system, redardless what distribution, and it should run. I=C5=BDd like a Linux even if it=C5=BDs a bit "outdated" but stable. None would stop anybody to develope improvements, that enhance or change the standard after say two years. I you want to stay at the front end of developement, well you=C5=BDd have to care for yourself. But I am more like Joe User, that wants a stable system and does not like to dive into Makefiles / config issues over and over again. > > There will be enought "standardization" by virtue of the number of > > packages sold, but each should allow some place in their distro for > > wiggle room so improvements can burst out. Similar to the developers kernel: Do improvement on another System and use the standard for dayly work. Then after abt. 2 years there is time for a new standard. Then shift to it. Maybe the changes for application software will be marginal. > > Jerry >=20 "(Ted Harding)" wrote: > This is also a point of view for which I have strong sympathy. >=20 > If the only issue were "what would the community of Linux users, breathing > the free air, like", I think the answer would be along Jerry's lines. >=20 quite true. I think that if the field is big enough, you whould not notice the fence. On the other hand, if there is a reason to move the fence further on, do an election and then move it on. > But the current flowering of interest in Linux in the "real software" > world (quotation marks deliberate ... ) -- while, at present, the Open > Source software for similar purposes continues to lag (and, in the case > of Windows compatibility which many of us genuinely need to achieve, > continues to be almost lacking except in commercial packages) -- points > to a need for a *standard* Linux that any ISV can debelop for and know > what the target is. That is exacly the point. If distributions differ to much you=C5=BDll always have little surprises, like the original Staroffice install program not working on SuSE 6.0 (german). The Install program that comes with SuSE 6.0 (german) works. If you have bought the sligtly better version from stardiv, you cant install it on 6.0. You have copy the 6.0=C5=BDs setup overwriting stardivs setup. (see german SDB). Easy thing, but you have either someone tell you, work it out the hard way, or forget the install. (further SO setup versions will correct this) >=20 > As I pointed out earlier: compare FreeBSD. FreeBSD is what is on the > FreeBSD ftp site. There are not 15 versions of it out there, incompatible > at a basic level. If you develop for FreeBSD you *know* what it's going > to be running on (to within shifts between versions, but that doesn't seem > to throw up many problems). >=20 I do not belive there is very much money in selling dists, there is more money in professional support. That=C5=BDs what=C5=BDs needed as well. And su= pport will be much easier if you do not have to ask about which dist. is used. Small conversation: A: Hi, heared you got ISDN running, havn=C5=BDt you? B: Yapp. Works like a charm. A: Can you help me? I=C5=BDve got problems. B: What dist do you use. It=C5=BDs no problem with my ******* A: I use ?????????. B: Hmmm. Sorry. Good luck! Juergen --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki(a)cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4834055665517143946==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Tue Feb 9 16:57:21 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] access denied when writing to shared files via samba Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 16:57:21 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990209165721.006c4970@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7323367176982588237==" --===============7323367176982588237== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am trying to create files/copy files to a shared directory from the samba = server. Ikee getting access denied! messages. However I can create files in m= y home Directory. I have no Idea why I cant write to the samba shared Directo= rys ??
Here is the smb.conf file
[global]
workgroup =3D workgroup
guest account =3D nobody
keep alive =3D 30
os level =3D 2
security =3D user
printing =3D bsd
printcap name =3D /etc/printcap
load printers =3D yes
; Please uncomment the following entry and replace the
; ip number and netmask with the correct numbers for
; your ethernet interface.
; interfaces =3D 10.20.30.1/255.0.0.0
; If you want Samba to act as a wins server, please set
; 'wins support =3D yes'
wins support =3D no
; If you want Samba to use an existing wins server,
; please uncomment the following line and replace
; the dummy with the wins server's ip number.
; wins server =3D 192.168.1.1
[homes]
comment =3D Heimatverzeichnis
browseable =3D no
read only =3D no
create mode =3D 0750
; The following share gives all users access to the Server's CD drive,
; assuming it is mounted under /cd. To enable this share, please remove
; the semicolons before the lines
;
[cdrom]
comment =3D Linux CD-ROM
path =3D /cdrom
read only =3D no
locking =3D no
[linserv]
comment =3D linux shared files
path =3D /linserv
readonly =3D no
locking =3D no
[test]
comment =3D testshare
path =3D /usr/tshare
browseable =3D yes
read only =3D no
public =3D yes
[printers]
comment =3D All Printers
browseable =3D no
printable =3D yes
public =3D no
read only =3D yes
create mode =3D 0700
directory =3D /tmp
- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with thi= s text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http:/= /www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archiv at http://www.suse.com/Mailing= lists/suse-linux-e/index.html=20 --===============7323367176982588237==-- From whughes@torcom.co.uk Tue Feb 9 17:26:59 1999 From: whughes@torcom.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Dynamic IP and Masquerading Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:26:59 +0000 Message-ID:In-Reply-To: <36C01FBE.E61FCC36@nothnbut.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7841263964292987803==" --===============7841263964292987803== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > John Perser wrote: > >=20 > > I've been setting up a Linux machine in the hopes of getting > > IP-Masquerading working. To my surprise it appears from all of the > > documentation that I've read (SuSE manual and mini howto's) that you > > MUST have a static IP for Masquerading to work. Most ISP accounts in the > > US are of the dynamic variety when dealing with non-corporate users. As > > a result I would think that someone has solved this problem. Is there a > > particular howto out there that provides an IP-Masquerading > > configuration with a dynamic IP? If this can't be done, is there some > > other solution? SOCKS? > I remember getting that impression from the docs also. But > it works with dynamic=20 > IP just fine. I'm doin it now. I'd like to do it too, but I can't even get my SuSE 5.3 to dial in to my ISP (I'm using an external modem, but the Linux box can't=20 seem to talk to it!) > --=20 > yours, > Andy regards, Bill - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7841263964292987803==-- From deem@wdm.com Tue Feb 9 18:17:53 1999 From: deem@wdm.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Vote for SuSE Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 09:17:53 -0900 Message-ID: <4.1.19990209091633.00a23d50@mailhost.arctic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8066810552222714579==" --===============8066810552222714579== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now is the time for all good men to vote for SuSE. Head to Slashdot at http://slashdot.org> please. -Dee - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8066810552222714579==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Tue Feb 9 18:19:10 1999 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Diamond Speedstar A50 AGP w 8 ngram AND xf86config Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 18:19:10 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990209181910.00af34f0@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <36C0B10F.1D5538B4@connix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0883802758866851314==" --===============0883802758866851314== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Samy Elashmawy wrote: >> Use xf86 config and set it up for the diamond A50 card w 8 meg , sis 6326 >> chipset and xf86-svga server. >> on runing stsrtx I get the following >> "the file xf86-xxxx (binarie of xserver) doesent seem to be a binarie file. >> Pleas check it and /or install a new xserver binary" > Any Idea what is wrong ?? >Thats a "server not installed error" ;-) >meaning you diddnt insall it when you first selected the installion. >*Start yast install new config (or something similiar) and look in the >xservers then *install the server* and rerun xf86 and you should be all set >rob Rob I reinstall all the xserver packages , and got the same error message. Sax hangs up on running it , I get a gray striped screen then it goes black and hangs up, XF86Setup Hangs as well , I get a gray cross hatch screen , then a cray backgroun then it just hans up. So I can only use xf3\86config. That gos well, Then when stating startx I get the error. The suse 6 comes with the 3.3.3 version. The only other thing I can think of is that It is an AGP Card. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============0883802758866851314==-- From tsteven@maptel.es Tue Feb 9 18:27:36 1999 From: tsteven@maptel.es To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Thanks & newbie questions. Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:27:36 +0100 Message-ID: <36C07E18.9CBF8285@maptel.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8047839657795976929==" --===============8047839657795976929== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to all those on the list that recommended WVDIAL, I got ver. 1.20 installed it wrote three lines in wvdial.conf and here i am, brilliant, thanks again. Q.1 Why when using the same .config file for compiling kernels 2.0.35 2.0.36 and 2.2.0 is there such an enormous final size difference, so much so that the 2.2.0 ver needs the bz* option? Q.2 dmesg under 2.2.0 shows some lines about incompatibility between cuax and ttySx is this why the version of pppd that comes with 5.3 dist. doesnt work under 2.2.0? Newbie -> newbie tip if like me you are (were ) having problems with setting up the preferences for the ver. of netscape that comes with the 5.3 dist the 4.5 ver uses exactly the same entries as under win9.x and worked first time! Yes, I know there are other poblems with Netscape 4.5 but at least I can send and receive my mail now. byee. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8047839657795976929==-- From martijn.van.den.burg@asml.nl Tue Feb 9 18:34:20 1999 From: martijn.van.den.burg@asml.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: No Subject Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:34:20 +0100 Message-ID: <99020920013000.00190@orion> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1989053083695423635==" --===============1989053083695423635== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am using the graphical login of KDM to login in my SuSE 5.3 system (kernel 2.0.35) but _sometimes_ KDM does not 'catch on' after booting, and keeps respawning.=20 What actually happens is: - all the ususal boot messages flash by - 'Starting KDM...' - screen goes black after one very short flash of something while KDM tries = to connect to the X-server (I presume) and fails - KDM respawns and etcetera. The only way to stop this is the three-finger salute, switch off the pc and restart after a while. What causes this intermittent problem and how can I solve it? Regards, =3D Martijn van den Burg=20 =3D Tech writer, archiver, Linux user=20 =3D Publications Department, ASML=20 =3D e-mail: martijn.van.den.burg(a)asml.nl=20 =3D voice: +31 (0)40 2303856=20 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1989053083695423635==-- From zulfiqar@shaw.wave.ca Tue Feb 9 19:09:15 1999 From: zulfiqar@shaw.wave.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Vote for SuSE Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 14:09:15 -0500 Message-ID: <36C087DB.EBC8738F@shaw.wave.ca> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990209091633.00a23d50@mailhost.arctic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1967229869118811939==" --===============1967229869118811939== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow!! RH has a really really commanding lead. It's all because of marketing though. It is almost sure that whenever Linux is mentioned RH is mentioned too, and thus the general public thinks that Linux is RH and vice versa!! GRR!!!!!! "W.D.McKinney (Dee)" wrote: > Now is the time for all good men to vote for SuSE. > Head to Slashdot at http://slashdot.org> please. > > -Dee > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Sup= port/Doku/FAQ/> and the > archiv at h= ttp://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============1967229869118811939==-- From zulfiqar@shaw.wave.ca Tue Feb 9 19:12:24 1999 From: zulfiqar@shaw.wave.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Cyrix 6x86 P150+ Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 14:12:24 -0500 Message-ID: <36C08898.E94032C3@shaw.wave.ca> In-Reply-To: <36C01EAB.CC89447C@nothnbut.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9122999963997578811==" --===============9122999963997578811== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Uh Oh!! The mobo for this computer is a BIOSTAR. Someone else on this list mentioned that Cyrix chips have to be cooled very well......and the person I am getting this from said that he bought the retail version of the Cyrix chip and that it has a Cyrix made Fan and Heatsink. Anyone out there has more suggestions before I say YES or NO? > =18 > This is purely anecdotal evidence, but I have a Cyrix P-166+ > that works > with name brand motherboards (FIC or Iwill), but it locks up > every few > days on a cheap generic motherboard (biostar). > It could just be this chip, but ... - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============9122999963997578811==-- From don@olive.campbellsvil.edu Tue Feb 9 19:24:45 1999 From: don@olive.campbellsvil.edu To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] third-party mail relay Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 14:24:45 -0500 Message-ID: <199902091924.OAA03000@olive.campbellsvil.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3140186444818044336==" --===============3140186444818044336== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How do I configure sendmail on suse 5.3 to prevent third-party mail relays off of my host? Any pointers? --=20 Don H. Olive, Physics Department don(a)campbellsvil.edu Campbellsville University http://www2.campbellsv= il.edu/~don> UPO 1265, One University Drive +1.502.789.5243 voice/+1.502.789.5042 fax Campbellsville KY, 42718 USA PGP: finger don(a)cygnus.campbellsvil.e= du - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3140186444818044336==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Tue Feb 9 19:26:25 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Vote for SuSE Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 14:26:25 -0500 Message-ID: <36C08BE1.B4B7AA17@connix.com> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990209091633.00a23d50@mailhost.arctic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8884600896438780897==" --===============8884600896438780897== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "W.D.McKinney (Dee)" wrote: > Now is the time for all good men to vote for SuSE. > Head to Slashdot at http://slashdot.org> please. > > -Dee Yes! or more specifically ht= tp://slashdot.org/articles/99/02/09/1042222.shtml> rob Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8884600896438780897==-- From phil@stokes.demon.co.uk Tue Feb 9 19:53:11 1999 From: phil@stokes.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: your mail Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:53:11 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <99020920013000.00190@orion> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6495496911006466690==" --===============6495496911006466690== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Martijn van den Burg wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I am using the graphical login of KDM to login in my SuSE 5.3 system > (kernel 2.0.35) but _sometimes_ KDM does not 'catch on' after > booting, and keeps respawning.=20 >=20 > What actually happens is: > - all the ususal boot messages flash by > - 'Starting KDM...' > - screen goes black after one very short flash of something while KDM trie= s to > connect to the X-server (I presume) and fails > - KDM respawns and etcetera. >=20 > The only way to stop this is the three-finger salute, switch off > the pc and restart after a while. >=20 > What causes this intermittent problem and how can I solve it? --===============6495496911006466690==-- From epcraig@efn.org Tue Feb 9 20:16:34 1999 From: epcraig@efn.org To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Vote for SuSE Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:16:34 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990209091633.00a23d50@mailhost.arctic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7129345946821562531==" --===============7129345946821562531== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, W.D.McKinney (Dee) wrote: > Now is the time for all good men to vote for SuSE. > Head to Slashdot at http://slashdot.org> please. > -Dee Ahhh, I get it, RedHat has a commanding lead because while all good men vote SuSE, bad men and all women vote RedHat? Nahhhh... Ed Craig epcraig(a)efn.org Taxi. Linux. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============7129345946821562531==-- From phil@stokes.demon.co.uk Tue Feb 9 21:50:01 1999 From: phil@stokes.demon.co.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Updating to SuSE 6.0 and SDB Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:50:01 +0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3424020608715710028==" --===============3424020608715710028== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I notice that the SuSE 6.0 manual refers to http://www.suse.de/Support/sdb/bugs60.htm= l> with respect to problems and issues with updating from 5.3 to 6.0 That page, and many of the links on it, are in German, with no equivalent articles in sdb_e. Is there any chance that someone from SuSE could translate the relevant articles into English, and include them in the English database now that the international version has been released? Although I am unable to fully understand the existing articles, it does seem from the bits I can read that they provide solutions to many of the questions being asked in this list of late, including getting the Acrobat and other plugins running with Netscape, StarOffice and other library problems, etc. Phil --=20 Philip Stokes Email: phil(a)stokes.demon.co.uk Fax: +44 (0)870 164 1242 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============3424020608715710028==-- From dizzy73@connix.com Tue Feb 9 22:05:03 1999 From: dizzy73@connix.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Diamond Speedstar A50 AGP w 8 ngram AND xf86config Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:05:03 -0500 Message-ID: <36C0B10F.1D5538B4@connix.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990209155754.00af3c80@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8841266406387417964==" --===============8841266406387417964== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Samy Elashmawy wrote: > Use xf86 config and set it up for the diamond A50 card w 8 meg , sis 6326 > chipset and xf86-svga server. > > on runing stsrtx I get the following > > "the file xf86-xxxx (binarie of xserver) doesent seem to be a binarie file. > Pleas check it and /or install a new xserver binary" > > Any Idea what is wrong ?? Thats a "server not installed error" ;-) meaning you diddnt insall it when you first selected the installion. *Start yast install new config (or something similiar) and look in the xservers then *install the server* and rerun xf86 and you should be all set rob Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LB= M.htm> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============8841266406387417964==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Tue Feb 9 22:18:57 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Diamond Speedstar A50 AGP w 8 ngram AND xf86config Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:18:57 -0500 Message-ID: <36C0B451.9E2D18AA@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990209155754.00af3c80@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4034065000939662581==" --===============4034065000939662581== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Samy Elashmawy wrote: >=20 > I have Installed Suse 6.0 >=20 > I tried to run Sax , but this failed to load , I got as far a blank black > screen. > Use xf86 config and set it up for the diamond A50 card w 8 meg , sis 6326 > chipset and xf86-svga server. >=20 > on runing stsrtx I get the following >=20 > "the file xf86-xxxx (binarie of xserver) doesent seem to be a binarie file. > Pleas check it and /or install a new xserver binary" >=20 > Any Idea what is wrong ?? >=20 I installed the Sis 6326 under 5.3 with the latest XFree86 svga server. There were a couple of things that didn't work, but were remedied by server options sw_cursor and no_bitblt. But Sax worked. Maybe you should try to download the svga driver again. I hope this dosn't mean I will have trouble when my 6.0 arrives. Did you get your disks already, or did you get it via ftp? - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============4034065000939662581==-- From zentara@mindspring.com Tue Feb 9 22:22:34 1999 From: zentara@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Cyrix 6x86 P150+ Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:22:34 -0500 Message-ID: <36C0B52A.9477F23A@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <36C08898.E94032C3@shaw.wave.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2896896236373343947==" --===============2896896236373343947== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: >=20 > Uh Oh!! >=20 > The mobo for this computer is a BIOSTAR. Someone else on this list mention= ed > that Cyrix chips have to be cooled very well......and the person I am getti= ng > this from said that he bought the retail version of the Cyrix chip and that > it has a Cyrix made Fan and Heatsink. >=20 > Anyone out there has more suggestions before I say YES or NO? >=20 Yeah, when you get it, pull the fan-heatsink off and put some thermal heat-sink paste on the chip, then put the fan-heatsink back on. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============2896896236373343947==-- From cuscom@telalink.net Tue Feb 9 22:23:46 1999 From: cuscom@telalink.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] ftpd exploit Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 16:23:46 -0600 Message-ID: <000201be547a$de629ae0$0202a8c0@keith.tnccs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6463212178044139808==" --===============6463212178044139808== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An exploit of ftpd is listed here: http://www.netect.com/advisory_0209.html> I see several linuxes listed, SuSE isn't one of them. What's up SuSE? - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <= A HREF=3D"http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/http://www.suse.com/Suppo= rt/Doku/FAQ/> and the archiv at htt= p://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html> --===============6463212178044139808==-- From linux1@mail.crc.com Tue Feb 9 22:38:00 1999 From: linux1@mail.crc.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Problems with smbmount - SuSE 6.0 with 2.2. Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:38:00 -0500 Message-ID: <9902099186.AA918601557@mail.crc.com> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Problems with smbmount - SuSE 6.0 with 2.2.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7688028572225594433==" --===============7688028572225594433== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I have the same problem. Is there another fix then putting Samba 2.0 on? I am using Beta 6.0 and kernel 2.2.1. Hope somone has an answer, as not being able to mount or NT servers is annoying. -----Original Message----- From: Rachel Greenham at Internet To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com at Internet