February 2001 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [SLE] slow netscape 6
by Eric Richards 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

Thankyou Andy The last one someone told had a ( ~ ) in the command, but I will try your one out next time, I am in Linux >From Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy" <sysadministrator(a)earthlink.net> To: "Eric Richards" <e.richards(a)free.net.nz> Sent: Thursday, 01 February, 2001 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] slow netscape 6 : netscape-installer >& error.txt : use that instead : : Also I had the same problem with a slackware box of mine. It turned out : being a glibc and libsafre problem. Not sure if SuSE has the same : problem, because I don't use Netscape 6. Telling you its all about : Mozilla!!! Mozilla r7 is way beyond netscape, only thing it dosen't : have is Instant Messenger, wich you can just use GAIM or KAIM which are : much better anyway. Good luck. : : Andy : --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.226 / Virus Database: 108 - Release Date: 1-5-01

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Mobile Stuff
by Richard 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

Dear All Anyone know what to do to get this to work ? I've got a notebook with SuSE 7.0 installed. I use COM1 at the back of the machine to download pictures from my camera and for minicom to transfer files. I'd like to plug my Ericsson T18S mobile phone into the same COM port to send and receive e-mail and view web pages. I've got a cable that goes between the phone and the COM port. I can dial my ISP once things are set up in the right way. Anyone know how to get this to work ? I've tried various places for info about this and no one seems to know too much about this kind of thing when it comes to Linux. I would use Irda but my phone doesn't have IR built into it. Looked into Kppp and Wvdial but can't see how I could get those to work. Thanks -- Richard

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Wordperfect 8 and SuSE 7.0
by joe 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

I tried to isntall Wordperfect 8 after I installed SuSE 7.0 and the ./install.wp script rapudly runs through without giving me the chance to select the install directory or anything else, so the install fails. Has anyone sucessfully installed Wordperfect 8 ( single user, commercial [boxed, manual and cd version] If so how, do I need a different install script? thanks in advance joe BTW The installation went fine on SuSE 6.2

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Re: [SLE] Fwd: [oclug] Linux Destined to Fall by the Wayside
by Cliff Sarginson 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

> Right enough here, Jerry, > > I know I've just had an extended moan about browsers, but Netscape has topped > itself this week by crashing every time I tried to show the value of various > forms of *nix to the interested but wary. Well, in my view Netscape should be allowed to die a death, it is probably beyond repair by now and it is just far too unstable. We shouldnt get too romantic about it, Netscape came from a similar mindset to that of Microsoft's until recently ! netscape is not an example of open-source development. Although it used to be quite a nice little program before it added all the garbage in like inbuilt mailer and web editor for god's sake.. I hope Konqueror succeeds, and other browsers. I don;t find Konqueror usable yet but I am sure it will be very soon. Yes, it is embarrassing to try and demonstrate web browsing - love it or hate it, Explorer is a flagship product by which others will be judged. That is just reality. It is not up to me of course but if I was a Big Noise at KDE I would concentrate all efforts on 4 things, in this order: Kmail Konqueror Kword K..whatever it is called (spreadsheet)... the rest can wait.. Cliff

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Re: ZDNet: Story: Subscribe to Office? What would you pay? Let's tell MS!
by Jerry Kreps 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

On Monday 29 January 2001 13:19, Fred A. Miller wrote: > http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2679248,00.ht >ml I read it. Dave Coursey, the Exec Editor, is actually floating a subscription trial baloon for Microsoft, and in doing so is being nothing more than a psychophant, helping M$ in their quest to determine the maximum amount of squeeze they can apply to a devoted Office user. I read most of the responses. Some were obvious Penquinistas, but most appeared to be Office users and without exception all were negative to the idea. Most said they would choose another product. Some offered their ideas as to how M$ would do it - Sell the base product (with built in time bomb) and rent the 'upgrades', which would deactive the time bomb for another year. None mentioned the possibility that M$ would be charging rent for all of the components of Office, not the whole package. Also, no one seemed to consider that their "rental fees' for several M$ products could become very substantial. A couple encouraged M$ to go to subscriptions, suggesting it would begin the mass migration to LInux. I think M$ sees a window of opportunity to hook folks into the subscription model, by way of data trapping (I can't switch because all my data is in formats that can't be switched to other products), before KOffice and StarOffice become equal to or better than Office on most fronts. That point is probably with a year. I think many will be surprised to know how useful SO5.2 *already* is on the Linux OS, and KOffice is not far behind. JLK -- Scientific theories, according to Sir Karl Popper, can be "falsified," or proven wrong, by experiment. Unscientific theories -Marxist dialectical history and Freudian psychology were Popper's favorites- are formed in such a way that they cannot be falsified by data.

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For your $ only
by filip 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

Hi all, A lot of noise on the last M$ statements, but let me just ask you this question : Is it normal that your OS+application programs,games etc... costs more than the material it works on ? Continuing my reflexion, if all linux users could retribute only $5 of their M$ applications ( if in use of course ) to the linux developpers community, I am sure we will get all drivers to make things work. Meanwhile, the M$ basis is still the desktop PC which finances the other developments. So I suggest Linux users could set up a Desktop database specifying : OS Processor MB Material file say linux-SUSE say PIII say via say NvidiaMX /etc/X11/.. The file specifying the whole env. and a small setup explication. Each input taking +/- 3kb gzipped, x 100.10^6 = 300 GB ===> +/- 5-7 disks now. That would help a lot the desktop users and maybe break the M$ power. On the other hand by doing this can we be responsible of hundred thousends of lost jobs ? Well, this was only a "I think" Cheers, Filip.

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Re: [SLE] Fwd: [oclug] Linux Destined to Fall by the Wayside
by EagleIce 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

On Thursday 01 February 2001 00:35, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > IMO the only thing Internet Explorer does better than Netscape or > > Konqueror is saving complete web pages in one go, with graphics and all, > > AFAIK there's no such alternative in Linux. > > No FUD please. > > wget 1.6 -p > > Finished. > > Volker What's FUD??? I got wget 1.5.3 and I've never got it to save complete HTML files with graphics and all. I'll give the -p argument a try then.....:-) Cheers, ei -- @~~ EagleIce ~ gnu4u(a)linux.nu ~~@ @~~ Running GNU/Linux & KDE ~~@

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Re: [SLE] Re: Linux Destined to Fall by the Wayside
by Cliff Sarginson 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

> > > If we look at all the different kinds of problems/no problems people are > having or not having with Netscape one might assume that it in itself is very > *hardware sensitive*!!?...:-} It is one of those programs that get tired (like windows), I suspect it's internal memory management is a complete nightmare and it gets impossible for it to sort out. I use it all day on Solaris, and if it lasts a day without crashing or showing signs of senility that is a rare day indeed. Everyone here has the same experience. We use/have used/do use .. the last 3 or 4 different versions. They are all just as bad. I dont see why Linux versions should be exempted :) Cliff

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Re: [SLE] losing mouse and keyboard
by EagleIce 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

On Wednesday 31 January 2001 18:19, Jack Reilly wrote: > The mouse is a three button Logitech Mouseman. The keyboard is VA LInux > oem that appears to be standard. Yast identifies it as type PC 104. The > connectors go to PS/2 ports. I neglect to mention that I have two PCs and > a mac connected to a Belkin OmniCube for common use of keyboard, mouse, and > monitor. The monitor is a NECMultiSync FP950. Both PCs have been running > RedHat without any problem. > It often happens that when the mouse isn't properly configured the x-server flips out and kills the keyboard too (sometimes it doesn't even start at all 'cos of the mouse), so your keyboard is probably configured properly. I don't know the 3-button LM mouse but I know that some of them run the config as the MS Intellimouse (mine is that). IMPS/2 protocol and PS/2 mouse should have the device configured; /dev/psaux. This is my mouse in the /etc/XF86Config file: -- Section "Pointer" Protocol "IMPS/2" Device "/dev/psaux" SampleRate 60 BaudRate 1200 ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection -- If you are a Linux newbie and you don't know how to boot up in text mode, or change into another virtual desktop to edit your /etc/XF86Config file with emacs or vi then let us know. > > If you haven't got anything on a USB port then you shouldn't have to > > worry about some messages on it during bootup. > > I would think so too. But it seems very strange that enabling the USB IRQ > lets me get a lot further without a freeze of kb and mouse. I veriied this > again yesterday. > Yes, that sounds a bit weird. I got an empty USB port on this box and I've got some strange messages concerning it, but I've never bothered about that and it doesn't seem to do any harm. > Thanks for your response .....Jack Cheers, ei -- @~~ EagleIce ~ gnu4u(a)linux.nu ~~@ @~~ Running GNU/Linux & KDE ~~@

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Re: [SLE] Netscape 6
by EagleIce 01 Feb '01

01 Feb '01

>From a GUI desktop in Linux you got the possibility to go into several other virtual desktops, you just push Ctrl+Alt+F1 (or F2, F3, F3....). To go back into the GUI desktop you do Ctrl+Alt+F7. You don't have to go into text mode just to untar/zip a package, perhaps you can just do this from a terminal in GUI?? Cheers, ei On Thursday 01 February 2001 13:28, Pit Apps wrote: > As I'm a newbe there is one stupid question: > >from text mode go > >tar -zxvf ns6.tar.gz > > How do I get into text mode? > > Pit A. -- @~~ EagleIce ~ gnu4u(a)linux.nu ~~@ @~~ Running GNU/Linux & KDE ~~@

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