One unnoticed side effect of disallowing HTML on our lists has been to also get rid of virtually all spam (that was not caught by spamassassin).
In the migration, we did not copy over the HTML ban, and for the last couple of weeks I have been seeing an influx of mails from non-members. These are then reported for moderation once a day, to me.
See also progress.o.o, ticket #80620
I _personally_ believe our ban on HTML is a bit old-fashioned, and I think we ought to accept HTML, but with the above, I am beginning to have my doubts.
I have enabled to filtering here, amongst other to see what the reject message looks like.
On 04/12/2020 09.33, Per Jessen wrote:
One unnoticed side effect of disallowing HTML on our lists has been to also get rid of virtually all spam (that was not caught by spamassassin).
In the migration, we did not copy over the HTML ban, and for the last couple of weeks I have been seeing an influx of mails from non-members. These are then reported for moderation once a day, to me.
See also progress.o.o, ticket #80620
I _personally_ believe our ban on HTML is a bit old-fashioned, and I think we ought to accept HTML, but with the above, I am beginning to have my doubts.
I have enabled to filtering here, amongst other to see what the reject message looks like.
Perhaps disable html from non subscribers directly, allow from subscribed? :-D
* Carlos E. R. robin.listas@telefonica.net [12-04-20 06:26]:
On 04/12/2020 09.33, Per Jessen wrote:
One unnoticed side effect of disallowing HTML on our lists has been to also get rid of virtually all spam (that was not caught by spamassassin).
In the migration, we did not copy over the HTML ban, and for the last couple of weeks I have been seeing an influx of mails from non-members. These are then reported for moderation once a day, to me.
See also progress.o.o, ticket #80620
I _personally_ believe our ban on HTML is a bit old-fashioned, and I think we ought to accept HTML, but with the above, I am beginning to have my doubts.
I have enabled to filtering here, amongst other to see what the reject message looks like.
Perhaps disable html from non subscribers directly, allow from subscribed? :-D
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no, just disable HTML. simpler solution and unneeded extra traffic, and weight.
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 04/12/2020 09.33, Per Jessen wrote:
One unnoticed side effect of disallowing HTML on our lists has been to also get rid of virtually all spam (that was not caught by spamassassin).
In the migration, we did not copy over the HTML ban, and for the last couple of weeks I have been seeing an influx of mails from non-members. These are then reported for moderation once a day, to me.
See also progress.o.o, ticket #80620
I _personally_ believe our ban on HTML is a bit old-fashioned, and I think we ought to accept HTML, but with the above, I am beginning to have my doubts.
I have enabled to filtering here, amongst other to see what the reject message looks like.
Perhaps disable html from non subscribers directly, allow from subscribed? :-D
Unfortunately not an option offered by mailman. :-)
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 3:33 AM Per Jessen per@computer.org wrote:
One unnoticed side effect of disallowing HTML on our lists has been to also get rid of virtually all spam (that was not caught by spamassassin).
In the migration, we did not copy over the HTML ban, and for the last couple of weeks I have been seeing an influx of mails from non-members. These are then reported for moderation once a day, to me.
See also progress.o.o, ticket #80620
I _personally_ believe our ban on HTML is a bit old-fashioned, and I think we ought to accept HTML, but with the above, I am beginning to have my doubts.
I have enabled to filtering here, amongst other to see what the reject message looks like.
We intentionally did not copy over the ban on HTML because I have experienced issues with subscribing and sending/receiving mail from my corporate address with that policy in the past. I know of others who have been similarly blocked because of that.
Neal Gompa wrote:
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 3:33 AM Per Jessen per@computer.org wrote:
One unnoticed side effect of disallowing HTML on our lists has been to also get rid of virtually all spam (that was not caught by spamassassin).
In the migration, we did not copy over the HTML ban, and for the last couple of weeks I have been seeing an influx of mails from non-members. These are then reported for moderation once a day, to me.
See also progress.o.o, ticket #80620
I _personally_ believe our ban on HTML is a bit old-fashioned, and I think we ought to accept HTML, but with the above, I am beginning to have my doubts.
I have enabled to filtering here, amongst other to see what the reject message looks like.
We intentionally did not copy over the ban on HTML because I have experienced issues with subscribing and sending/receiving mail from my corporate address with that policy in the past. I know of others who have been similarly blocked because of that.
Hmm, that is not good. I would not have expected the list filters to apply to administrative messages.
On 04/12/2020 14.59, Per Jessen wrote:
Neal Gompa wrote:
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 3:33 AM Per Jessen per@computer.org wrote:
We intentionally did not copy over the ban on HTML because I have experienced issues with subscribing and sending/receiving mail from my corporate address with that policy in the past. I know of others who have been similarly blocked because of that.
Hmm, that is not good. I would not have expected the list filters to apply to administrative messages.
I have been contacted directly several times over the years by people that could not subscribe to the mail list (if memory serves), or that could not post. Often the cause was "html".
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 04/12/2020 14.59, Per Jessen wrote:
Neal Gompa wrote:
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 3:33 AM Per Jessen per@computer.org wrote:
We intentionally did not copy over the ban on HTML because I have experienced issues with subscribing and sending/receiving mail from my corporate address with that policy in the past. I know of others who have been similarly blocked because of that.
Hmm, that is not good. I would not have expected the list filters to apply to administrative messages.
I have been contacted directly several times over the years by people
Right now, only anything post 10 November is interesting.
that could not subscribe to the mail list (if memory serves), or that could not post. Often the cause was "html".
subscribing and posting are really two very different things. Even with mlmmj, I don't think the list filters apply to list commands.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 9:44 AM Per Jessen per@computer.org wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 04/12/2020 14.59, Per Jessen wrote:
Neal Gompa wrote:
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 3:33 AM Per Jessen per@computer.org wrote:
We intentionally did not copy over the ban on HTML because I have experienced issues with subscribing and sending/receiving mail from my corporate address with that policy in the past. I know of others who have been similarly blocked because of that.
Hmm, that is not good. I would not have expected the list filters to apply to administrative messages.
I have been contacted directly several times over the years by people
Right now, only anything post 10 November is interesting.
that could not subscribe to the mail list (if memory serves), or that could not post. Often the cause was "html".
subscribing and posting are really two very different things. Even with mlmmj, I don't think the list filters apply to list commands.
They did with mlmmj, but that's not an issue for Mailman. The issue is preventing people from posting because of usage of HTML email or MTA forcibly injecting and converting the email to HTML.
-- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!
Neal Gompa wrote:
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 9:44 AM Per Jessen per@computer.org wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 04/12/2020 14.59, Per Jessen wrote:
Neal Gompa wrote:
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 3:33 AM Per Jessen per@computer.org wrote:
We intentionally did not copy over the ban on HTML because I have experienced issues with subscribing and sending/receiving mail from my corporate address with that policy in the past. I know of others who have been similarly blocked because of that.
Hmm, that is not good. I would not have expected the list filters to apply to administrative messages.
I have been contacted directly several times over the years by people
Right now, only anything post 10 November is interesting.
that could not subscribe to the mail list (if memory serves), or that could not post. Often the cause was "html".
subscribing and posting are really two very different things. Even with mlmmj, I don't think the list filters apply to list commands.
They did with mlmmj,
Really ? I guess I never tried it.
but that's not an issue for Mailman.
Yeah, I have just tried it, subscribing with an html message, no problem.
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On Friday, 2020-12-04 at 15:44 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 04/12/2020 14.59, Per Jessen wrote:
Neal Gompa wrote:
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 3:33 AM Per Jessen <> wrote:
We intentionally did not copy over the ban on HTML because I have experienced issues with subscribing and sending/receiving mail from my corporate address with that policy in the past. I know of others who have been similarly blocked because of that.
Hmm, that is not good. I would not have expected the list filters to apply to administrative messages.
I have been contacted directly several times over the years by people
Right now, only anything post 10 November is interesting.
I have also been contacted directly after that date for problems with the new lists, which I managed to to answer sufficiently for them :-)
But not with the html rejection issue, no new posts about that.
that could not subscribe to the mail list (if memory serves), or that could not post. Often the cause was "html".
subscribing and posting are really two very different things. Even with mlmmj, I don't think the list filters apply to list commands.
Yes, it happened with html, (mlmmj) people that could not subscribe or ask for help with subscription. People tend to ask someone whose name they see frequently in the list ;-)
Specially on the Spanish mail list.
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