* Felix Miata [03-03-19 12:51]:

Patrick Shanahan composed on 2019-03-03 12:32 (UTC-0500):

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Maximilian Trummer composed on 2019-03-03 17:32 (UTC+0100):

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I'm trying to do a 'zypper dup' on a headless server, but it wants to install a load of unnecessary packages. Many of them are gtk stuff, but also cryptsetup, mdadm, PackageKit and fuse.

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you don't say, but suggest: zypper -v --no-r --no-allow-v dup

When I / no-allow in man zypper, I get Pattern not found. :-(

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The upgrade would be from the currently running 20190222 to 20190301, which upgrades the schemes 'base', 'basesystem' and 'minimal_base'.

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How can I find out what package is trying to pull in these new dependencies?

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try first the above and it may solve itself

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if you still get unwanted pkgs, try adding specific locks

If you'd like to get updated now and make that determination later, you could add

--no-recommends

fwiw: --no-r == --no-recommends zypper appears to solve to least ambiguous, --no-r *only* matches --no-recommends -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

* Felix Miata [03-03-19 13:50]:

Patrick Shanahan composed on 2019-03-03 13:36 (UTC-0500):

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--no-allow-v dup

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When I / no-allow in man zypper, I get Pattern not found. :-(

What is "--no-allow-v"?

and correctly so. from "man zypper" --[no-]allow-vendor-change Whether to allow changing the vendor of installed resolvables. Setting this to no might be useful if you do not want packages from foreign repos being changed to the distributions version (or vice versa). --no-allow-vendor-change you would have had to search for "allow-v" -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

* Maximilian Trummer [03-03-19 18:53]:

Am Sonntag, 3. März 2019, 18:32:07 CET schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

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* Maximilian Trummer [03-03-19 11:52]:

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I'm trying to do a 'zypper dup' on a headless server, but it wants to install a load of unnecessary packages. Many of them are gtk stuff, but also cryptsetup, mdadm, PackageKit and fuse.

you don't say, but suggest: zypper -v --no-r --no-allow-v dup

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The upgrade would be from the currently running 20190222 to 20190301, which upgrades the schemes 'base', 'basesystem' and 'minimal_base'.

How can I find out what package is trying to pull in these new dependencies?

try first the above and it may solve itself

if you still get unwanted pkgs, try adding specific locks

--no-recommends is just a temporary fix, those packages will still get --pulled in the next time or when using 'zypper install-new-recommends'.

I would add 'specific locks' if I actually knew what other package wants to install e.g. adwaita-icon-theme.

allow install of adwaita-icon-theme, then rpm -e adwaita-icon-theme rpm will advise you what it must erase to accomplish and you will have your answer. is that the only unwanted app that remains when using --no-r ? and you can set "--no-recommends" to be default in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf and use "--recommends" or --r to over-ride when needed. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

Am Montag, 4. März 2019, 01:21:19 CET schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

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* Maximilian Trummer [03-03-19 18:53]:

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Am Sonntag, 3. März 2019, 18:32:07 CET schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

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* Maximilian Trummer [03-03-19 11:52]:

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I'm trying to do a 'zypper dup' on a headless server, but it wants to install a load of unnecessary packages. Many of them are gtk stuff, but also cryptsetup, mdadm, PackageKit and fuse.

you don't say, but suggest: zypper -v --no-r --no-allow-v dup

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The upgrade would be from the currently running 20190222 to 20190301, which upgrades the schemes 'base', 'basesystem' and 'minimal_base'.

How can I find out what package is trying to pull in these new dependencies?> >

try first the above and it may solve itself

if you still get unwanted pkgs, try adding specific locks

--no-recommends is just a temporary fix, those packages will still get --pulled in the next time or when using 'zypper install-new-recommends'.

I would add 'specific locks' if I actually knew what other package wants to install e.g. adwaita-icon-theme.

allow install of adwaita-icon-theme, then

rpm -e adwaita-icon-theme

rpm will advise you what it must erase to accomplish and you will have your answer.

is that the only unwanted app that remains when using --no-r ?

and you can set "--no-recommends" to be default in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf and use "--recommends" or --r to over-ride when needed.

rpm -e $package just deletes the package because it's not a hard dependency.

I got another machine now that installed the chromium browser on 'zypper dup' for whatever reason. 'zypper se --recommends chromium' yields no results... I found the issue, Falkon browser is missing the 'web_browser' package symbol

Am Dienstag, 5. März 2019, 20:00:01 CET schrieb Maximilian Trummer: that the package 'patterns-base-x11_enhanced' recommends. Created a bug report https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1128005

On 04/03/2019 10:52, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Maximilian Trummer [03-03-19 18:53]:

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Am Sonntag, 3. März 2019, 18:32:07 CET schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

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* Maximilian Trummer [03-03-19 11:52]:

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I'm trying to do a 'zypper dup' on a headless server, but it wants to install a load of unnecessary packages. Many of them are gtk stuff, but also cryptsetup, mdadm, PackageKit and fuse.

some packager has provided recommendations for added apps in one or more packages he works, maybe by accident.

Yep and it would be useful to know what so that we can create a bug report nothing in the patterns listed should pull in anything graphical. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

* Felix Miata [03-03-19 19:52]:

Maximilian Trummer composed on 2019-03-04 00:52 (UTC+0100):

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I would add 'specific locks' if I actually knew what other package wants to install e.g. adwaita-icon-theme.

I have solver.onlyRequires = true on TW20190301/KDE and no currently enabled optional repos. These seem to be the only GTK3 and/or Adwaita packages installed:

PackageKit-gtk3-module-1.1.12-2.1.x86_64 adwaita-icon-theme-3.30.1-1.1.noarch gtk2-metatheme-adwaita-3.28-1.4.noarch gtk2-theming-engine-adwaita-3.28-1.4.x86_64 gtk3-branding-upstream-3.24.5-1.1.noarch gtk3-data-3.24.5-1.1.noarch gtk3-metatheme-adwaita-3.28-1.4.noarch gtk3-schema-3.24.5-1.1.noarch gtk3-tools-3.24.5-1.1.x86_64 libcanberra-gtk3-0-0.30-15.3.x86_64 libcanberra-gtk3-module-0.30-15.3.x86_64 libgtk-3-0-3.24.5-1.1.x86_64 metatheme-adwaita-common-3.28-1.4.noarch

rpm -e adwaita-icon-theme is blocked by both libgtk-3-0 and icewm-default.

Crash:~ > rpm -q --whatrequires adwaita-icon-theme libgtk-3-0-3.24.5-1.1.x86_64 icewm-default-1.4.2-7.3.x86_64 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org