On 03/02/2021 23.09, Doug McGarrett wrote:

Please help me rename this file    eset_nod32av_64bit_en(1).linux in my /home/doug/Downloads directory so as to get rid of the ( 1 ). I thought I knew how, and the man doesn't seem to help, and it keeps coming back with the paren section, thus: doug@linux1:~/Downloads> rename eset_nod32av_64bit_en\(1\).linux eset_nod32av_64bit_en.linux /home/doug/Downloads It doesn't complain, but it doesn't do the job, either.

No. Don't do that. We told you what to do. PLEASE NOBODY TELL HIM HOW TO DO WHAT HE ASKS FOR. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)

* Knurpht-openSUSE [02-03-21 17:49]:

Op woensdag 3 februari 2021 23:15:04 CET schreef Carlos E.R.:

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On 03/02/2021 23.09, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Please help me rename this file eset_nod32av_64bit_en(1).linux in my /home/doug/Downloads directory so as to get rid of the ( 1 ). I thought I knew how, and the man doesn't seem to help, and it keeps coming back with the paren section, thus: doug@linux1:~/Downloads> rename eset_nod32av_64bit_en\(1\).linux eset_nod32av_64bit_en.linux /home/doug/Downloads It doesn't complain, but it doesn't do the job, either.

No. Don't do that. We told you what to do.

PLEASE NOBODY TELL HIM HOW TO DO WHAT HE ASKS FOR. Come on, I get where you're coming from, but refrain from posting public messages like this please.

then how can on advise people to not assist the OP in shooting himself in the foot? I know, you are now going to censor me again. shame on you. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode

On Wed 03 Feb 2021 05:09:34 PM CST, Doug McGarrett wrote:

Please help me rename this file    eset_nod32av_64bit_en(1).linux in my /home/doug/Downloads directory so as to get rid of the ( 1 ). I thought I knew how, and the man doesn't seem to help, and it keeps coming back with the paren section, thus: doug@linux1:~/Downloads> rename eset_nod32av_64bit_en\(1\).linux eset_nod32av_64bit_en.linux /home/doug/Downloads It doesn't complain, but it doesn't do the job, either.

Thanx. --doug

Hi Use the mv command.... ls Downloads/eset* Downloads/eset_nod32av_64bit_en(1).linux mv Downloads/eset_nod32av_64bit_en\(1\).linux Downloads/eset_nod32av_64bit_en.linux ls Downloads/eset* Downloads/eset_nod32av_64bit_en.linux -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) Tumbleweed 20210202 | GNOME Shell 3.38.3 | 5.10.12-1-default Intel DQ77MK MB | Xeon E3-1245 V2 X8 @ 3.40 GHz | Intel/Nvidia up 4:06, 2 users, load average: 0.34, 0.71, 0.91

On 2/3/21 6:13 PM, Malcolm wrote:

On Wed 03 Feb 2021 05:09:34 PM CST, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Please help me rename this file    eset_nod32av_64bit_en(1).linux in my /home/doug/Downloads directory so as to get rid of the ( 1 ). I thought I knew how, and the man doesn't seem to help, and it keeps coming back with the paren section, thus: doug@linux1:~/Downloads> rename eset_nod32av_64bit_en\(1\).linux eset_nod32av_64bit_en.linux /home/doug/Downloads It doesn't complain, but it doesn't do the job, either.

Thanx. --doug

Hi Use the mv command....

ls Downloads/eset* Downloads/eset_nod32av_64bit_en(1).linux

mv Downloads/eset_nod32av_64bit_en\(1\).linux Downloads/eset_nod32av_64bit_en.linux

ls Downloads/eset* Downloads/eset_nod32av_64bit_en.linux

Thank you. I probably used mv in the past, and forgot. It's been a long time since I fiddled with the files in Linux.  --doug

On 04/02/2021 00.13, Malcolm wrote:

On Wed 03 Feb 2021 05:09:34 PM CST, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Please help me rename this file    eset_nod32av_64bit_en(1).linux in my /home/doug/Downloads directory so as to get rid of the ( 1 ). I thought I knew how, and the man doesn't seem to help, and it keeps coming back with the paren section, thus: doug@linux1:~/Downloads> rename eset_nod32av_64bit_en\(1\).linux eset_nod32av_64bit_en.linux /home/doug/Downloads It doesn't complain, but it doesn't do the job, either.

Thanx. --doug

Hi Use the mv command....

Well, then when he destroys his system, you help him next. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 03/02/2021 23.46, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:

Op woensdag 3 februari 2021 23:15:04 CET schreef Carlos E.R.:

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On 03/02/2021 23.09, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Please help me rename this file eset_nod32av_64bit_en(1).linux in my /home/doug/Downloads directory so as to get rid of the ( 1 ). I thought I knew how, and the man doesn't seem to help, and it keeps coming back with the paren section, thus: doug@linux1:~/Downloads> rename eset_nod32av_64bit_en\(1\).linux eset_nod32av_64bit_en.linux /home/doug/Downloads It doesn't complain, but it doesn't do the job, either.

No. Don't do that. We told you what to do.

PLEASE NOBODY TELL HIM HOW TO DO WHAT HE ASKS FOR. Come on, I get where you're coming from, but refrain from posting public messages like this please.

It is an EMERGENCY. He is in the road to destroy his system AGAIN, and you are helping him to do it. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Doug McGarrett composed on 2021-02-03 20:04 (UTC-0500):

(In the meantime, I might observe that some older bash Linux commands have, for some reason, been removed from the system. One I can think of is apt-get, but I have run across others.)

Apt-get isn't a "Linux" command. It's a Debian package management command. openSUSE isn't a Debian, or Debian derived (which is what *buntus and Mint and many more distros are). openSUSE uses an entirely different package management system (comprised of zypper, rpm and yast*). When Googling for help, it's often best to ignore hits that include apt, buntu, mint, neon or debian in title or URL. -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

On 2/3/21 9:07 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

Doug McGarrett composed on 2021-02-03 20:04 (UTC-0500):

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(In the meantime, I might observe that some older bash Linux commands have, for some reason, been removed from the system. One I can think of is apt-get, but I have run across others.) Apt-get isn't a "Linux" command. It's a Debian package management command. openSUSE isn't a Debian, or Debian derived (which is what *buntus and Mint and many more distros are). openSUSE uses an entirely different package management system (comprised of zypper, rpm and yast*). When Googling for help, it's often best to ignore hits that include apt, buntu, mint, neon or debian in title or URL. Yes, I have looked it up, and find that it was invented by Ubuntu, but it worked in OpenSUSE as recently as April 2019 release. It also used to work in PCLOS, 6 years ago-- don't know about now after they castrated it. And yes, I do ignore references to the deb system distros. --doug

On 2/4/21 2:48 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

J Leslie Turriff composed on 2021-02-03 20:18 (UTC-0600):

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Felix Miata wrote:

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...often... But not always Does often in any way equate to always? No, what it is, is a rough equivalent to

*not* always.

Debian and progeny often turn into a big waste of time with terms like apt, apt-get, apt-mark, apt-cache, aptitude, dpkg, adept, synaptic, full-upgrade, safe-upgrade, upgrade, dist-upgrade, do-release-upgrade, gdebi & dselect, not to mention absence of root login (in a standard installation: sudo).

I miss something like synaptic, which was in the old PCLOS. Not only the names of apps, but a very brief description of what they were supposed to do. AFAIK, there is nothing in OpenSUSE that replaces it. --doug

On 05/02/2021 03.11, Doug McGarrett wrote:

On 2/4/21 2:48 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

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J Leslie Turriff composed on 2021-02-03 20:18 (UTC-0600):

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Felix Miata wrote:

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...often...     But not always Does often in any way equate to always? No, what it is, is a rough equivalent to

    *not* always.

Debian and progeny often turn into a big waste of time with terms like apt, apt-get, apt-mark, apt-cache, aptitude, dpkg, adept, synaptic, full-upgrade, safe-upgrade, upgrade, dist-upgrade, do-release-upgrade, gdebi & dselect, not to mention absence of root login (in a standard installation: sudo).

I miss something like synaptic, which was in the old PCLOS. Not only the names of apps, but a very brief description of what they were supposed to do. AFAIK, there is nothing in OpenSUSE that replaces it.

Well, you are wrong, because YaST, zypper, and rpm can give you that brief description. cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qi glibc Name : glibc Version : 2.26 Release : lp152.26.3.1 Architecture: x86_64 Install Date: 2021-01-01T00:44:58 CET Group : System/Libraries Size : 6984505 License : LGPL-2.1+ AND SUSE-LGPL-2.1+-with-GCC-exception AND GPL-2.0+ Signature : RSA/SHA256, 2020-08-13T23:18:42 CEST, Key ID b88b2fd43dbdc284 Source RPM : glibc-2.26-lp152.26.3.1.src.rpm Build Date : 2020-08-13T23:13:23 CEST Build Host : cloud125 Relocations : (not relocatable) Packager : http://bugs.opensuse.org Vendor : openSUSE URL : http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/libc.html Summary : Standard Shared Libraries (from the GNU C Library) Description : The GNU C Library provides the most important standard libraries used by nearly all programs: the standard C library, the standard math library, and the POSIX thread library. A system is not functional without these libraries. Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.2 cer@Telcontar:~> -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Doug McGarrett composed on 2021-02-05 01:26 (UTC-0500):

Suppose you never heard of Artha. If you had Synaptic, you could scroll thru it. You come to Artha. It says something like Thesaurus and dictionary....

How does that differ from YaST2?: https://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/73583844 -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

On 05/02/2021 07.26, Doug McGarrett wrote:

On 2/4/21 10:31 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

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On 05/02/2021 03.11, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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J Leslie Turriff composed on 2021-02-03 20:18 (UTC-0600):

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Felix Miata wrote:

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...often...      But not always Does often in any way equate to always? No, what it is, is a rough equivalent to

     *not* always.

Debian and progeny often turn into a big waste of time with terms like apt, apt-get, apt-mark, apt-cache, aptitude, dpkg, adept, synaptic, full-upgrade, safe-upgrade, upgrade, dist-upgrade, do-release-upgrade, gdebi & dselect, not to mention absence of root login (in a standard installation: sudo). I miss something like synaptic, which was in the old PCLOS. Not only

On 2/4/21 2:48 AM, Felix Miata wrote: the names of apps, but a very brief description of what they were supposed to do. AFAIK, there is nothing in OpenSUSE that replaces it. Well, you are wrong, because YaST, zypper, and rpm can give you that brief description.

cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qi glibc Name        : glibc ... Summary     : Standard Shared Libraries (from the GNU C Library) Description : The GNU C Library provides the most important standard libraries used by nearly all programs: the standard C library, the standard math library, and the POSIX thread library. A system is not functional without these libraries. Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.2 cer@Telcontar:~>

I think this misses the point. Suppose you never heard of Artha. If you had Synaptic, you could scroll thru it. You come to Artha. It says something like Thesaurus and dictionary. So you install it, find out you like it and keep it. If you didn't like it, you zapped it. Now you have only Yast, zypper, and rpm. How do you find Artha? (Well Firefox probably would find it, but that's cheating!) Also, for someone who has used apt-get install, it used to work here. What has been gained by removing it? Someone who has used Linux for years may expect to have that combination. Well, anyway, I learned something: I didn't realize that rpm could be used this way. But only if you know to ask about glibc. (For instance.)

As you can see in the photo posted by Felix on his reply, that information is in YaST (which is not yet installed). See there is a tab named "search"? Well, click on it, then type "thesaurus", hit enter, and YaST will find for you all packages that contain that word - you can tick "description" to only search the description database. There was another view tab in YaST that has been removed recently which allowed you to search packages by categories. Say, office, games, etc. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 09:34:11AM +0100, Bengt Gördén wrote:

On 2021-02-05 07:26, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Someone who has used Linux for years may expect to have that combination.

There is also "Discover". From the info:

Doug, I think you'll appreciate Discover, here's a quick screenshot: https://susepaste.org/60719239 As well as browsing through the category headings you can explicitly search for things related ("photo" in the screenshot). Sometimes you'll find you already have great programs installed, as "we only know what we know", or they're just a few clicks away with the Install button. Daniel

On 2/5/21 1:48 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

Doug McGarrett composed on 2021-02-05 01:26 (UTC-0500):

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Suppose you never heard of Artha. If you had Synaptic, you could scroll thru it. You come to Artha. It says something like Thesaurus and dictionary.... How does that differ from YaST2?: https://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/73583844 Well, it assumes you know that you need an email address It assumes you can dream up the address 73583844 from some magic garden somewhere I don't know what else it requires, but I'm pretty sure I'd never be able to do it.

--doug

* Doug McGarrett [02-05-21 13:50]:

On 2/5/21 3:34 AM, Bengt Gördén wrote:

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On 2021-02-05 07:26, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Someone who has used Linux for years may expect to have that combination.

There is also "Discover". From the info:

 Discover is a graphical software manager for the KDE Plasma desktop It helps users to find software they might want easily and quickly.

 By allowing to navigate a software library by search, categories,  top lists along with detailed application information including screenshots and reviews, users can more quickly find applications  that suit their needs.

It's probably already installed on your system. If not:

zypper install discover

OK, you're right. Discover does list a batch of apps. Except that the files listed are not in any rational order, I suppose one could say that it takes the place of synaptics. Maybe.

But while I'm at it, some other useful commands have been eliminated for no apparent reason-- one that comes to mind right away is whereis and I had thought of another but now it slips what's left of my mind! Oh, well. . . .

whereis is still there but perhaps you neglected to install it. it is provided by util-linux-2.36.1-1.1.x86_64 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode

On 2/5/21 7:17 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 05/02/2021 07.26, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 2/4/21 10:31 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

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On 05/02/2021 03.11, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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J Leslie Turriff composed on 2021-02-03 20:18 (UTC-0600):

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Felix Miata wrote: > ...often...      But not always Does often in any way equate to always? No, what it is, is a rough equivalent to

     *not* always.

Debian and progeny often turn into a big waste of time with terms like apt, apt-get, apt-mark, apt-cache, aptitude, dpkg, adept, synaptic, full-upgrade, safe-upgrade, upgrade, dist-upgrade, do-release-upgrade, gdebi & dselect, not to mention absence of root login (in a standard installation: sudo). I miss something like synaptic, which was in the old PCLOS. Not only

On 2/4/21 2:48 AM, Felix Miata wrote: the names of apps, but a very brief description of what they were supposed to do. AFAIK, there is nothing in OpenSUSE that replaces it. Well, you are wrong, because YaST, zypper, and rpm can give you that brief description.

cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qi glibc Name        : glibc ... Summary     : Standard Shared Libraries (from the GNU C Library) Description : The GNU C Library provides the most important standard libraries used by nearly all programs: the standard C library, the standard math library, and the POSIX thread library. A system is not functional without these libraries. Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.2 cer@Telcontar:~>

I think this misses the point. Suppose you never heard of Artha. If you had Synaptic, you could scroll thru it. You come to Artha. It says something like Thesaurus and dictionary. So you install it, find out you like it and keep it. If you didn't like it, you zapped it. Now you have only Yast, zypper, and rpm. How do you find Artha? (Well Firefox probably would find it, but that's cheating!) Also, for someone who has used apt-get install, it used to work here. What has been gained by removing it? Someone who has used Linux for years may expect to have that combination. Well, anyway, I learned something: I didn't realize that rpm could be used this way. But only if you know to ask about glibc. (For instance.)

As you can see in the photo posted by Felix on his reply, that information is in YaST (which is not yet installed). What is not yet installed? YaST is installed everywhere, by default.

See there is a tab named "search"? Well, click on it, then type "thesaurus", hit enter, and YaST will find for you all packages that contain that word - you can tick "description" to only search the description database. No, there is not a tab named "search" --at least not in my YaST. But I haven't updated the system in 10 days or so. Maybe it's there now. I'll run the update now and see. --doug

There was another view tab in YaST that has been removed recently which allowed you to search packages by categories. Say, office, games, etc.

On 05/02/2021 19.01, Doug McGarrett wrote:

On 2/5/21 1:48 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

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Doug McGarrett composed on 2021-02-05 01:26 (UTC-0500):

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Suppose you never heard of Artha. If you had Synaptic, you could scroll thru it. You come to Artha. It says something like Thesaurus and dictionary.... How does that differ from YaST2?: https://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/73583844 Well, it assumes you know that you need an email address It assumes you can dream up the address 73583844 from some magic garden somewhere I don't know what else it requires, but I'm pretty sure I'd never be able to do it.

Man, that link is just the place where Felix stored the photo. Just look at the photo! It is as if I point at the moon and you comment on my finger. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 2/5/21 2:04 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:

On 2/5/21 7:17 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 05/02/2021 07.26, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 2/4/21 10:31 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

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On 05/02/2021 03.11, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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J Leslie Turriff composed on 2021-02-03 20:18 (UTC-0600):

> Felix Miata wrote: >> ...often... >       But not always Does often in any way equate to always? No, what it is, is a rough equivalent to

      *not* always.

Debian and progeny often turn into a big waste of time with terms like apt, apt-get, apt-mark, apt-cache, aptitude, dpkg, adept, synaptic, full-upgrade, safe-upgrade, upgrade, dist-upgrade, do-release-upgrade, gdebi & dselect, not to mention absence of root login (in a standard installation: sudo). I miss something like synaptic, which was in the old PCLOS. Not only

On 2/4/21 2:48 AM, Felix Miata wrote: the names of apps, but a very brief description of what they were supposed to do. AFAIK, there is nothing in OpenSUSE that replaces it. Well, you are wrong, because YaST, zypper, and rpm can give you that brief description.

cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qi glibc Name        : glibc ... Summary     : Standard Shared Libraries (from the GNU C Library) Description : The GNU C Library provides the most important standard libraries used by nearly all programs: the standard C library, the standard math library, and the POSIX thread library. A system is not functional without these libraries. Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.2 cer@Telcontar:~>

I think this misses the point. Suppose you never heard of Artha. If you had Synaptic, you could scroll thru it. You come to Artha. It says something like Thesaurus and dictionary. So you install it, find out you like it and keep it. If you didn't like it, you zapped it. Now you have only Yast, zypper, and rpm. How do you find Artha? (Well   Firefox probably would find it, but that's cheating!) Also, for someone who has used apt-get install, it used to work here. What has been gained by removing it? Someone who has used Linux for years may expect to have that combination. Well, anyway, I learned something: I didn't realize that rpm could be used this way. But only if you know to ask about glibc. (For instance.)

As you can see in the photo posted by Felix on his reply, that information is in YaST (which is not yet installed). What is not yet installed? YaST is installed everywhere, by default.

See there is a tab named "search"? Well, click on it, then type "thesaurus", hit enter, and YaST will find for you all packages that contain that word - you can tick "description" to only search the description database. No, there is not a tab named "search" --at least not in my YaST. But I haven't updated the system in 10 days or so. Maybe it's there now. I'll run the update now and see. --doug

OK, yes there is a box named search. I put in thesaurus and hit return and nothing happened. I know that box was there all along. I think you need to have the actually name of the app. --doug

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There was another view tab in YaST that has been removed recently which allowed you to search packages by categories. Say, office, games, etc.

On 2/5/21 7:59 AM, Daniel Morris wrote:

On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 09:34:11AM +0100, Bengt Gördén wrote:

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On 2021-02-05 07:26, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Someone who has used Linux for years may expect to have that combination. There is also "Discover". From the info: Doug, I think you'll appreciate Discover, here's a quick screenshot:

https://susepaste.org/60719239

As well as browsing through the category headings you can explicitly search for things related ("photo" in the screenshot).

Sometimes you'll find you already have great programs installed, as "we only know what we know", or they're just a few clicks away with the Install button.

Daniel OK, forgot about that.--doug

On 05/02/2021 21.40, Doug McGarrett wrote:

On 2/5/21 2:04 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 2/5/21 7:17 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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As you can see in the photo posted by Felix on his reply, that information is in YaST (which is not yet installed). What is not yet installed? YaST is installed everywhere, by default.

See there is a tab named "search"? Well, click on it, then type "thesaurus", hit enter, and YaST will find for you all packages that contain that word - you can tick "description" to only search the description database. No, there is not a tab named "search" --at least not in my YaST. But I haven't updated the system in 10 days or so. Maybe it's there now. I'll run the update now and see.

OK, yes there is a box named search. I put in thesaurus and hit return and nothing happened. I know that box was there all along. I think you need to have the actually name of the app.

You have to try read everything we tell you. You forgot to tick on "description", to search inside the descriptions. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 05/02/2021 22.29, DennisG wrote:

On 2/5/21 4:09 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

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On 05/02/2021 21.40, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 2/5/21 2:04 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 2/5/21 7:17 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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As you can see in the photo posted by Felix on his reply, that information is in YaST (which is not yet installed). What is not yet installed? YaST is installed everywhere, by default. See there is a tab named "search"? Well, click on it, then type "thesaurus", hit enter, and YaST will find for you all packages that contain that word - you can tick "description" to only search the description database. No, there is not a tab named "search" --at least not in my YaST. But I haven't updated the system in 10 days or so. Maybe it's there now. I'll run the update now and see. OK, yes there is a box named search. I put in thesaurus and hit return and nothing happened. I know that box was there all along. I think you need to have the actually name of the app. You have to try read everything we tell you. You forgot to tick on "description", to search inside the descriptions.

The default search includes "Summary", which would also have returned "artha".  There are seven attributes you can search in.

Additionally, note the Search Mode below, of which there are five. The default is "Contains", so e.g. if you had only entered the "saur" (from the middle of "thesaurus") it would still have found "artha".

True, it does. I just tested. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Doug McGarrett composed on 2021-02-05 15:40 (UTC-0500):

OK, yes there is a box named search. I put in thesaurus and hit return and nothing happened.

Works as expected here: https://susepaste.org/view/raw/71443566 -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

* Doug McGarrett [02-05-21 18:13]:

On 2/5/21 1:58 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Doug McGarrett [02-05-21 13:50]:

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On 2/5/21 3:34 AM, Bengt Gördén wrote:

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On 2021-02-05 07:26, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Someone who has used Linux for years may expect to have that combination. There is also "Discover". From the info:

 Discover is a graphical software manager for the KDE Plasma desktop It helps users to find software they might want easily and quickly.

 By allowing to navigate a software library by search, categories,  top lists along with detailed application information including screenshots and reviews, users can more quickly find applications  that suit their needs.

It's probably already installed on your system. If not:

zypper install discover

OK, you're right. Discover does list a batch of apps. Except that the files listed are not in any rational order, I suppose one could say that it takes the place of synaptics. Maybe.

But while I'm at it, some other useful commands have been eliminated for no apparent reason-- one that comes to mind right away is whereis and I had thought of another but now it slips what's left of my mind! Oh, well. . . .

whereis is still there but perhaps you neglected to install it. it is provided by util-linux-2.36.1-1.1.x86_64 Please tell me how to install that. Thanx--doug

as you would any other app using zypper zypper -v in util-linux-2.36.1-1.1.x86_64 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode

On 2/5/21 6:12 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:

On 2/5/21 1:58 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Doug McGarrett [02-05-21 13:50]:

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On 2/5/21 3:34 AM, Bengt Gördén wrote:

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On 2021-02-05 07:26, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Someone who has used Linux for years may expect to have that combination. There is also "Discover". From the info:

  Discover is a graphical software manager for the KDE Plasma desktop It helps users to find software they might want easily and quickly.

  By allowing to navigate a software library by search, categories,   top lists along with detailed application information including screenshots and reviews, users can more quickly find applications   that suit their needs.

It's probably already installed on your system. If not:

zypper install discover

OK, you're right. Discover does list a batch of apps. Except that the files listed are not in any rational order, I suppose one could say that it takes the place of synaptics. Maybe.

But while I'm at it, some other useful commands have been eliminated for no apparent reason-- one that comes to mind right away is whereis and I had thought of another but now it slips what's left of my mind! Oh, well. . . .

whereis is still there but perhaps you neglected to install it. it is provided by util-linux-2.36.1-1.1.x86_64 Please tell me how to install that. Thanx--doug

Just use YaST Software (please!) to Search for 'util-linux'.  You don't need to know the version beforehand.  Comes right up. --dg

On 06/02/2021 01.11, Doug McGarrett wrote:

On 2/5/21 1:59 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

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Doug McGarrett composed on 2021-02-05 13:01 (UTC-0500):

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Felix Miata wrote:

A post from Mr. Shanahan says

whereis is still there but perhaps you neglected to install it.  it is provided by util-linux-2.36.1-1.1.x86_64

How do I install the file whereis located in util-linux-2.36.1-1.1.x86_64?

I have explained this more than once. You open "yast", click on "software management", then click on "search" - same as the photos you have seen. You type "util-linux", you click on the button "search", then you click on the package it finds (so that it displays a green tick mark), and then on "accept" to proceed with the installation. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Doug McGarrett composed on 2021-02-06 20:19 (UTC-0500):

The picture show YaST2. How do you get to YaST2?

If X is running, you should be able to find it under "System" in your menu starter, depending on which DE or WM you are using. Or, from an X terminal or from "run command" (to go directly to software management): sudo yast2 sw_single -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

Op zondag 7 februari 2021 02:19:22 CET schreef Doug McGarrett:

The picture show YaST2. How do you get to YaST2? Can we please keep this list on-topic?

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Op dinsdag 9 februari 2021 02:40:15 CET schreef Carlos E.R.:

On 09/02/2021 01.15, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:

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Op zondag 7 februari 2021 02:19:22 CET schreef Doug McGarrett:

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The picture show YaST2. How do you get to YaST2?

Can we please keep this list on-topic?

He is the Original Poster, he defines with what he needs help with, not us. a "Please start a new thread, with a proper title, that might raise your chances of finding a solution for your issue." ?

-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board openSUSE Forums Team