Subject says it all. Have looked in yast finder without result. I like the interface for a scanner. --doug
* Doug McGarrett dmcgarrett@optonline.net [09-28-20 19:46]:
Subject says it all. Have looked in yast finder without result. I like the interface for a scanner.
maybe because openSUSE does not package such an application.
* Patrick Shanahan paka@opensuse.org [09-28-20 19:54]:
- Doug McGarrett dmcgarrett@optonline.net [09-28-20 19:46]:
Subject says it all. Have looked in yast finder without result. I like the interface for a scanner.
maybe because openSUSE does not package such an application.
further, what I see available in other locals is: X-Scan is a general scanner for scanning network vulnerabilities for specific IP address range
not an interface for a document scanner.
are you interested in scanning other peoples computers looking for openings where you can access them?
On 9/28/20 7:46 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Subject says it all. Have looked in yast finder without result. I like the interface for a scanner. --doug
Correction: Xsane -- sorry about that! But the file seems to indicate a PICTURE, not an app:
doug@linux1:~> locate xsane /usr/share/doc/packages/hplip/images/xsane.png
Also, yast can't find a scanner, even tho it is a part of the Epson WP-4530 all-in-one (which I finally got working!)
--doug
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:01:13 -0400 Doug McGarrett dmcgarrett@optonline.net wrote:
On 9/28/20 7:46 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Subject says it all. Have looked in yast finder without result. I like the interface for a scanner. --doug
Correction: Xsane -- sorry about that! But the file seems to indicate a PICTURE, not an app:
what happens if you type it as a command?:
$ xsane -h
doug@linux1:~> locate xsane /usr/share/doc/packages/hplip/images/xsane.png
Also, yast can't find a scanner, even tho it is a part of the Epson WP-4530 all-in-one (which I finally got working!)
Is it turned on and connected?
--doug
On 9/28/20 8:30 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:01:13 -0400 Doug McGarrett dmcgarrett@optonline.net wrote:
On 9/28/20 7:46 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Subject says it all. Have looked in yast finder without result. I like the interface for a scanner. --doug
Correction: Xsane -- sorry about that! But the file seems to indicate a PICTURE, not an app:
Installed xsane via yast:
linux1:~ # zypper install xsane Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies...
The following NEW package is going to be installed: xsane
1 new package to install. Overall download size: 1.7 MiB. Already cached: 0 B. After the operation, additional 5.0 MiB will be used. Continue? [y/n/v/...? shows all options] (y): y Retrieving package xsane-0.999-3.4.x86_64 (1/1), 1.7 MiB ( 5.0 MiB unpacked) Retrieving: xsane-0.999-3.4.x86_64.rpm ..................................................................[done (1.5 MiB/s)]
Checking for file conflicts: ........................................................................................[done] (1/1) Installing: xsane-0.999-3.4.x86_64 ............................................................................[done]
what happens if you type it as a command?:
$ xsane -h
doug@linux1:~> xsane -h XSane version: 0.999 (c) 1998-2013 Oliver Rauch
Usage: xsane [OPTION]... [DEVICE]
Start up graphical user interface to access SANE (Scanner Access Now Easy) devices.
The format of [DEVICE] is backendname:devicefile (e.g. umax:/dev/scanner). [OPTION]... can be a combination of the following items: -h, --help display this help message and exit -v, --version print version information -l, --license print license information
-d, --device-settings file load device settings from file (without ".drc")
-V, --viewer start with viewer-mode active (default) -s, --save start with save-mode active -c, --copy start with copy-mode active -m, --multipage start with multipage-mode active -f, --fax start with fax-mode active -e, --email start with e-mail-mode active -n, --no-mode-selection disable menu for XSane mode selection
-F, --Fixed fixed main window size (overwrite preferences value) -R, --Resizeable resizable, scrolled main window (overwrite preferences value)
-p, --print-filenames print image filenames created by XSane -N, --force-filename name force filename and disable user filename selection
--display X11-display redirect output to X11-display --no-xshm do not use shared memory images --sync request a synchronous connection with the X11 server
The Epson is turned on and connected. Icon use fails with scanner not found; tried from Konsole—"no devices available"
From years-ago: "In dll.conf, make sure that epson2.conf is uncommented" yes, I uncommented that a while ago for this reason. Also, in old PCLOS system, /sane.d/epson.conf line shows net autodiscovery (like in epson2.conf) but not in TW, so added line. Makes no difference.
The instructions continued: "Sometimes xsane does not work out of the box and needs some other scan program to 'kickstart' it. It seems that this has to do with the lp (parallel port) module being loaded. Blacklist it (put the line blacklist lp in /etc/modprobe.d in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist) and remove it. (modprobe -r lp)."
There is nothing resembling that in /etc/modprobe.d and I didn't mess with it.
Need suggestions, please. --doug
doug@linux1:~> locate xsane /usr/share/doc/packages/hplip/images/xsane.png
Also, yast can't find a scanner, even tho it is a part of the Epson WP-4530 all-in-one (which I finally got working!)
Is it turned on and connected?
--doug
On 29/09/2020 04.32, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/28/20 8:30 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:01:13 -0400 Doug McGarrett <> wrote:
On 9/28/20 7:46 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Subject says it all. Have looked in yast finder without result. I like the interface for a scanner. --doug
Correction: Xsane -- sorry about that! But the file seems to indicate a PICTURE, not an app:
Installed xsane via yast:
linux1:~ # zypper install xsane Loading repository data...
That's zypper, not YaST. But nevermind, you installed it.
Need suggestions, please. --doug
Configure the scanner with YaST scanner module.
Photos:
https://susepaste.org/10209655
and
On 9/29/20 4:36 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 29/09/2020 04.32, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Enclosed paste indicates that epson2 is the necessary nomenclature--which is what I have in the various relevant files. --doug
On 29/09/2020 20.51, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/29/20 4:36 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 29/09/2020 04.32, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Enclosed paste indicates that epson2 is the necessary nomenclature--which is what I have in the various relevant files.
No, it doesn't.
You have to press "add" then search for "4530" as I did.
On 9/29/20 4:23 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 29/09/2020 20.51, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/29/20 4:36 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 29/09/2020 04.32, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Enclosed paste indicates that epson2 is the necessary nomenclature--which is what I have in the various relevant files.
No, it doesn't.
You have to press "add" then search for "4530" as I did.
I can't get back there. I'm completely lost at this point. Anyway, epson2 is what it was called in previous Linux installation. --doug
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El 2020-09-29 a las 19:46 -0400, Doug McGarrett escribió:
On 9/29/20 4:23 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 29/09/2020 20.51, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/29/20 4:36 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 29/09/2020 04.32, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Enclosed paste indicates that epson2 is the necessary nomenclature--which is what I have in the various relevant files.
No, it doesn't.
You have to press "add" then search for "4530" as I did.
I can't get back there. I'm completely lost at this point. Anyway, epson2 is what it was called in previous Linux installation.
Well, of course you can go back there in seconds. I can, so can you - unless you go around changing things you don't understand instead of following instructions we write for you.
The way to do it is to install your scanner using the yast scanner module as you were told. Using the add button seen on the photo I posted for you.
Undo your manual changes first.
But if you go back to Tumbleweed, I will not help you. I'm tired of this.
- -- Cheers Carlos E. R.
(from openSUSE 15.1 (Legolas))
On 9/29/20 7:46 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/29/20 4:23 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 29/09/2020 20.51, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/29/20 4:36 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Carlos has been insisting that Yast can install the scanner. He was only partly correct. Yast can install the scanner if the *necessary files* are in the system. In this case, the necessary file was *not* in the system. An Epson scanner requires /etc/sane.d/epkowa. The epkowa file does not exist in the system as shipped. It exists in my TW system now, and it will exist in my Leap system when I get around to it. Copied from an old PCLOS laptop. Yast had no trouble finding the scanner at first try since I installed the necessary file, and XSane now scans perfectly. It took quite a bit of research to determine that this was the problem, but I finally decided to add the file, figuring it can't hurt if it doesn't work--it just wouldn't be accessed.
Now to try and get the HP printer to work once again, and hope that it doesn't blow away the Epson all-mode. --doug
On 30/09/2020 22.07, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/29/20 7:46 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/29/20 4:23 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 29/09/2020 20.51, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/29/20 4:36 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Carlos has been insisting that Yast can install the scanner. He was only partly correct. Yast can install the scanner if the *necessary files* are in the system. In this case, the necessary file was *not* in the system. An Epson scanner requires /etc/sane.d/epkowa. The epkowa file does not exist in the system as shipped.
As can be seen in the photos I posted, the comments in YaST say that you have to do a number of things manually, and that you have several alternatives. Yes, the third party epkowa driver is mentioned.
As I don't have that particular scanner (mine works out of the box) I didn't go further to extract the detailed instructions.
On Wed, 2020-09-30 at 16:07 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
An Epson scanner requires
/etc/sane.d/epkowa.
The epkowa file does not exist in the system as shipped.
It exists in my TW system now, and it will exist in my Leap system when
I get around to
it. Copied from an old PCLOS laptop.
Yast had no trouble finding the scanner at first try since I installed
the necessary file, and
XSane now scans perfectly.
FWIW, I also have an Epson scanner and that file is provided for
iscan-2.30.1-1.usb0.1.ltdl7.x86_64
Epson provides Linux downloads for their drivers at
https://support.epson.net/linux/en/imagescanv3.php
There is an OpenSUSE section. TW is not listed, but I'd try with the latest version from the list (Leap 15.1 at this time).
Hope this helps, Robert
On 9/29/20 2:51 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/29/20 4:36 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 29/09/2020 04.32, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Enclosed paste indicates that epson2 is the necessary nomenclature--which is what I have in the various relevant files. --doug
Found a suspicious paragraph in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf:
# The next line enables the network backend; comment it out if you don't # need to use a remote SANE scanner over the network -- see sane-net(5) # and saned(8) for details. net
Removed the # from "net" -- now we'll see what happens. No joy. In the Yast ________________________________________________________ Scanner Configuration Driver v Scanner epson2 No scanner recognized by this driver net No scanner recognized by this driver _________________________________________________________ Same as what I had before. It looks like sane-net is a compressed file: doug@linux1:~> whereis sane-net sane-net: /usr/share/man/man5/sane-net.5.gz Apparently a typo in the second reference--no dot, and no result; putting the dot in produces another encoded file: doug@linux1:~> whereis sane.d sane: /usr/lib64/sane /etc/sane.d /usr/share/sane /usr/share/man/man7/sane.7.gz
Sure I'm in over my head; Leap would be no better, I'm sure. --doug
I don't know if I can view these files without actually decompressing them where they live. Is there a way to view a compressed file without leaving it decompressed in place? My 917 page reference book doesn't answer that.
On 2020-09-29 5:36 p.m., Doug McGarrett wrote:
I don't know if I can view these files without actually decompressing them where they live. Is there a way to view a compressed file without leaving it decompressed in place? My 917 page reference book doesn't answer that.
To read sane.7.gz, open a console and type at the command line:
man sane
Those files are part of the manpages package, which is installed by default. To learn how to use the package, type "man man".
On 29/09/2020 02.01, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/28/20 7:46 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Subject says it all. Have looked in yast finder without result. I like the interface for a scanner.
Correction: Xsane -- sorry about that! But the file seems to indicate a PICTURE, not an app:
doug@linux1:~> locate xsane /usr/share/doc/packages/hplip/images/xsane.png
Because it is indeed a photo *file*.
You are still looking for packages the wrong way, using "locate" (that is a file finder) instead of using rpm, zypper, or yast to find *packages".
For example, with "rpm" command:
cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qa | grep -i xsane xsane-0.999-lp151.2.3.x86_64 cer@Telcontar:~>
It tells me I have xsane installed. Notice that "|" is a vertical bar, not lowercase "L". The pipe symbol.
If it is not installed, then you can use zypper to find it in your active repos:
cer@Telcontar:~> zypper --no-refresh search xsane Loading repository data... Reading installed packages...
S | Name | Summary | Type ---+-------------------+---------------------------------------------------+-------- i+ | xsane | A GTK-Based Graphical Scanning Front-End for SANE | package | xsane-debuginfo | Debug information for package xsane | package | xsane-debugsource | Debug sources for package xsane | package cer@Telcontar:~>
Or you can use YaST in a graphical way. I posted this already, but I'll do it again. With a photo. See the attached photo, it explains how to *search* for a *package* with YaST.
PLEASE CONFIRM that you have received this message and read it.
Also, yast can't find a scanner, even tho it is a part of the Epson WP-4530 all-in-one (which I finally got working!)
The scanner is for all purposes a different machine than the printer.
On 9/29/20 4:21 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 29/09/2020 02.01, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/28/20 7:46 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Subject says it all. Have looked in yast finder without result. I like the interface for a scanner.
Correction: Xsane -- sorry about that! But the file seems to indicate a PICTURE, not an app:
doug@linux1:~> locate xsane /usr/share/doc/packages/hplip/images/xsane.png
Because it is indeed a photo *file*.
You are still looking for packages the wrong way, using "locate" (that is a file finder) instead of using rpm, zypper, or yast to find *packages".
For example, with "rpm" command:
cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qa | grep -i xsane xsane-0.999-lp151.2.3.x86_64 cer@Telcontar:~> It tells me I have xsane installed. Notice that "|" is a vertical bar, not lowercase "L". The pipe symbol.
I understand the pipe. For some reason I get a different answer to the rpm command:
doug@linux1:~> rpm -qa | grep -i xsane xsane-0.999-3.4.x86_64
I had to look up this use of the rpm command--I was not familiar with it. Anyway, what is the meaning of the different output?
If it is not installed, then you can use zypper to find it in your active repos:
cer@Telcontar:~> zypper --no-refresh search xsane Loading repository data... Reading installed packages...
S | Name | Summary | Type ---+-------------------+---------------------------------------------------+--------
i+ | xsane | A GTK-Based Graphical Scanning Front-End for SANE | package | xsane-debuginfo | Debug information for package xsane | package | xsane-debugsource | Debug sources for package xsane | package cer@Telcontar:~>
Or you can use YaST in a graphical way. I posted this already, but I'll do it again. With a photo. See the attached photo, it explains how to *search* for a *package* with YaST.
I could not duplicate the picture, try as I might.
PLEASE CONFIRM that you have received this message and read it.
I have read thru it, and I don't get all the same results that you do.
Also, yast can't find a scanner, even tho it is a part of the Epson WP-4530 all-in-one (which I finally got working!)
The scanner is for all purposes a different machine than the printer.
Yes, I understand that. Here is the result of the yast query:
Using yast, (YaST2) :
Scanner Configuration
Driver v Scanner epson2 No scanner recognized by this driver net No scanner recognized by this driver
Following up on that: Page called "Set Up Scanning via Network"
Server Settings Permitted Clients for saned 127.0.0.0/8, changed to 192.168.1.0/24, per note in box
Client Settings Servers Used for the net Metadriver localhost, that's what this was set at; I didn't change it
Predefined Configurations Local Host Configuration Disable Scanning via Network <<<<<<<<<What's this??? I cannot change this!
When checking box "OK" get Error Failed to set up scanning via network
Hope this all meakes sense to the reader--I'm kinda snowed! --doug
On 9/29/20 2:29 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Addendum to message below.
After I sent it, I found a popup comment box added to "Set Up Scanning via Network" It reads:
YaST2 - scanner @ linux1 <3> (linux1 is name of computer) ______________________________________________________________________________________
Cannot stop and disable saned.socket (no /usr/lib/systemd/system/saned.socket). Falling back to disable saned for xinetd and reload xinetd.service. sed: can't read /etc/xinetd.d/sane-port: No such file or directory Failed to disable saned in /etc/xinetd.d/sane-port
_______________________________________________________________________________________
This should fall at the end of the setup I wrote below.
--doug
/snip/ Also, yast can't find a scanner, even tho it is a part of the Epson WP-4530 all-in-one (which I finally got working!)
The scanner is for all purposes a different machine than the printer.
Yes, I understand that. Here is the result of the yast query:
Using yast, (YaST2) :
Scanner Configuration
Driver v Scanner epson2 No scanner recognized by this driver net No scanner recognized by this driver
Following up on that: Page called "Set Up Scanning via Network"
Server Settings Permitted Clients for saned 127.0.0.0/8, changed to 192.168.1.0/24, per note in box
Client Settings Servers Used for the net Metadriver localhost, that's what this was set at; I didn't change it
Predefined Configurations Local Host Configuration Disable Scanning via Network <<<<<<<<<What's this??? I cannot change this!
When checking box "OK" get Error Failed to set up scanning via network
Hope this all meakes sense to the reader--I'm kinda snowed! --doug
On 29/09/2020 20.29, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/29/20 4:21 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 29/09/2020 02.01, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 9/28/20 7:46 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Subject says it all. Have looked in yast finder without result. I like the interface for a scanner.
Correction: Xsane -- sorry about that! But the file seems to indicate a PICTURE, not an app:
doug@linux1:~> locate xsane /usr/share/doc/packages/hplip/images/xsane.png
Because it is indeed a photo *file*.
You are still looking for packages the wrong way, using "locate" (that is a file finder) instead of using rpm, zypper, or yast to find *packages".
For example, with "rpm" command:
cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qa | grep -i xsane xsane-0.999-lp151.2.3.x86_64 cer@Telcontar:~> It tells me I have xsane installed. Notice that "|" is a vertical bar, not lowercase "L". The pipe symbol.
I understand the pipe. For some reason I get a different answer to the rpm command:
doug@linux1:~> rpm -qa | grep -i xsane xsane-0.999-3.4.x86_64
You are using tumbleweed again! :-/
I had to look up this use of the rpm command--I was not familiar with it. Anyway, what is the meaning of the different output?
That you are using Tumbleweed again.
Or you can use YaST in a graphical way. I posted this already, but I'll do it again. With a photo. See the attached photo, it explains how to *search* for a *package* with YaST.
I could not duplicate the picture, try as I might.
PLEASE CONFIRM that you have received this message and read it.
I have read thru it, and I don't get all the same results that you do.
Well, post screenshots of what you get. Use http://susepaste.org to place them for some limited time.
Also, yast can't find a scanner, even tho it is a part of the Epson WP-4530 all-in-one (which I finally got working!)
The scanner is for all purposes a different machine than the printer.
Yes, I understand that. Here is the result of the yast query:
Using yast, (YaST2) :
Scanner Configuration
Driver v Scanner epson2 No scanner recognized by this driver net No scanner recognized by this driver
Post photos.
Make sure you start yast from the desktop menu. The program is called "yast2" if you call it manually, and in that case you have to use "su -", like this:
cer@Telcontar:~> su - Password: Telcontar:~ # yast2 & [1] 30494 Telcontar:~ #
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