Recently have had increasing problems with system crashing. Hoping that updating would correct this, I ran zypper dup. and it crashed while installing everything. It is now not possible to boot the system, either on the recovery option or the earlier system shown in the boot selection. I expect I will have to reinstall, however, I would like to try and copy off some files to a second (presently empty) hard drive I installed a couple of months ago. If this is not feasible, I have a blank hard drive that can be hooked up to a usb port if necessary. Am writing this from the Windows os that came with the machine. I don't suppose there is anything in Windows that will do what I need--correct me if I'm wrong--so I can download a present version of OpenSuse TW or use a DVD that I downloaded last summer. Whichever is suggested, I need instructions on how to recover important files and pictures and save them to the second hard drive. (I have or will format that to ext4 from gparted.) Then I will download a present iteration of the system and install it on the original drive. Sorry about the double spacing--Windows T/B style! Thank you for any assistance--doug -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
In data venerdì 23 aprile 2021 08:25:46 CEST, Doug McGarrett ha scritto:
Recently have had increasing problems with system crashing. Hoping that When did you system crash? On startup, on restart, on hibernation, while running, which desktop?
updating would correct this, I ran zypper dup. and it crashed while installing This is always a bad idea when you have a problem like that. What file system you use. If you use BTRFS the only advantage of it is, that you can rollback. Do you use BTRFS? Do you know how to rollback?
everything. It is now not possible to boot the system, either on the recovery option Chances are good you did interrupt the install before all files were correctly downloaded. Do I understand well that you reach recovery console? From there as root
zypper lr to see if you have mixed inadvertedly some repo that shout not be there.
or the earlier system shown in the boot selection. I expect I will have to reinstall,
however, I would like to try and copy off some files to a second (presently empty)
hard drive I installed a couple of months ago. If this is not feasible, I have a blank
hard drive that can be hooked up to a usb port if necessary. Am writing this from the
Windows os that came with the machine. I don't suppose there is anything in Windows
You can start the system on a life CD, branch the USB and if the HDD is sufficiently large do simply (on the empty and formatted usb disk naturally) cp -ax /home /pathtotheusb/ this will copy completely the /home so you can do a fresh install being sure you do not loose anything. Normally you should have /home on a separate partition (that you are asked at install. To see how your system is partitioned do in the recover root terminal: lsblk This shows you if the /home is separate. If it is, you may choose expert mode in installing TW and tell to read in the previous mount points and the to format ONLY the root and evtl the swap. You will install and then restart.
that will do what I need--correct me if I'm wrong--so I can download a present version
of OpenSuse TW or use a DVD that I downloaded last summer. Whichever is suggested,
Maybe thus a reinstall is not necessary all together. What graphic card did you use? If Nvidia, installed from their site or installed from rpm?
I need instructions on how to recover important files and pictures and save them to
the second hard drive. (I have or will format that to ext4 from gparted.) Then I will
download a present iteration of the system and install it on the original drive.
Sorry about the double spacing--Windows T/B style!
Thank you for any assistance--doug
In data venerdì 23 aprile 2021 08:25:46 CEST, Doug McGarrett ha scritto:
Recently have had increasing problems with system crashing. Hoping that When did you system crash? On startup, on restart, on hibernation, while running, which desktop? Other times: system crashed more often when viewing video material. This time: during the "installing" portion of the upgrade from zypper dup. Using ext4. When I installed system (last summer) made a /root and a /home partition but everything wound up on the /home, nothing on /boot. Obviously I did something wrong, but I don't know what. If there is specific provision in
On 4/23/21 2:43 AM, Stakanov wrote: the install routine for separating /boot and /home I didn't see it, but would very much like to when I reinstall. Desktop is KDE 5.
updating would correct this, I ran zypper dup. and it crashed while installing This is always a bad idea when you have a problem like that. What file system you use. If you use BTRFS the only advantage of it is, that you can rollback. Do you use BTRFS? Do you know how to rollback? I don't use BTRFS and hope not to, as it is more-or-less non-standard, and GParted knows nothing of it.everything.
It is now not possible to boot the system, either on the main versions or the recovery versions. I can only get as far as the light-bulb.
Chances are good you did interrupt the install before all files were correctly downloaded. That is correct.
Do I understand well that you reach recovery console? No. Just the recovery entries in the cold-start routine. They don't work. From there as root
zypper lr
to see if you have mixed inadvertedly some repo that shout not be there.
or the earlier system shown in the boot selection. I expect I will have to reinstall,
however, I would like to try and copy off some files to a second (presently empty)
hard drive I installed a couple of months ago. If this is not feasible, I have a blank
hard drive that can be hooked up to a usb port if necessary. Am writing this from the
Windows os that came with the machine. I don't suppose there is anything in Windows You can start the system on a life CD, branch the USB and if the HDD is sufficiently large do simply (on the empty and formatted usb disk naturally) cp -ax /home /pathtotheusb/ this will copy completely the /home so you can do a fresh install being sure you do not loose anything. Normally you should have /home on a separate partition (that you are asked at install. To see how your system is partitioned do in the recover root terminal: lsblk This shows you if the /home is separate. If it is, you may choose expert mode in installing TW and tell to read in the previous mount points and the to format ONLY the root and evtl the swap. You will install and then restart. I am going to download an up-to-date edition of the system and start the machine using that. I will then see if there is a way to copy off the files I want to save. If that is not obvious, I will be back here. Am now writing on a Linux machine--Mageia--so I don't have to deal with Windows--I haven't actually used Windows in at least 15 years, and I don't know how anymore.
One note: problem is with a new machine, bought last June. It has a new-fangled solid-state drive that mounts (somehow) on the mobo. If it was an old drive, I would simply remove it and copy it on another machine, like this one.
that will do what I need--correct me if I'm wrong--so I can download a present version
of OpenSuse TW or use a DVD that I downloaded last summer. Whichever is suggested, Maybe thus a reinstall is not necessary all together. What graphic card did you use? If Nvidia, installed from their site or installed from rpm?
FYI: graphics is in the CPU, no separate card.
I need instructions on how to recover important files and pictures and save them to
the second hard drive. (I have or will format that to ext4 from gparted.) Then I will
download a present iteration of the system and install it on the original drive.
Sorry about the double spacing--Windows T/B style!
Thank you for any assistance--doug
Thanx again for answering. I'm going to d/l a new copy of TW now and proceed from there. I expect I'll be back here in an hour or two! --doug
On Fri, 2021-04-23 at 14:51 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
This is always a bad idea when you have a problem like that. What
file system you use. If you use BTRFS the only advantage of it is, that you can rollback. Do you use BTRFS? Do you know how to rollback? I don't use BTRFS and hope not to, as it is more-or-less non- standard, and GParted knows nothing of it.everything.
Btrfs is standard on openSuse and has been for years. Just a question out of the box - are you routinely using your computer as root/admin? Tomas
On 4/23/21 3:10 PM, TomasK wrote:
On Fri, 2021-04-23 at 14:51 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
This is always a bad idea when you have a problem like that. What
file system you use. If you use BTRFS the only advantage of it is, that you can rollback. Do you use BTRFS? Do you know how to rollback? I don't use BTRFS and hope not to, as it is more-or-less non- standard, and GParted knows nothing of it. Btrfs is standard on openSuse and has been for years.
Just a question out of the box - are you routinely using your computer as root/admin?
No. Only for updates or some installs. --dm
Tomas
On 4/23/21 2:51 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
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Thanx again for answering. I'm going to d/l a new copy of TW now and proceed from there. I expect I'll be back here in an hour or two! --doug
Since you have disregarded /so/ /many/ suggestions to use Leap, maybe you could just consider the huge amount of time that you have consumed here from friendly people who have tried and continue to try to help you - albeit consistently unsuccessful. Do you think that is fair??? You have proved that TW is not a good fit for you. Install Leap. For your sake, and ours. --dg
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