Lubos,

It is not MATE desktop but the Window Environment is wrong in 15.5 for MATE.

Still trying to find the reason for the blinking screen and the lack of the Window Menu area on each application that is started.

I tried the 15.4 MATE rpm packages and the Tumbleweed MATE rpm packages and the blinking still is there.

So something changed between the original Alpha and the current Beta Window environment.

I am not savvy enough to follow all the "X" startup stuff in 15.5.

I have not tried Wayland to see if that has the same issues. I will when I get some time.

I am too busy helping my former co-workers fix their Windows 11 systems remotely. Fun to work with folks that cannot remember their password to anything.

Larry

Hello Larry,

we'll be happy if you contribute to Mate in Leap 15.5. 

I'd recommend starting with https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Submitting_bug_reports

If the package broken, and nobody is responding to bugs or interested in maintaining it for Leap then we'll have to consider dropping it.

Just like we do with any other broken package. Let's use this momentum try to get it fixed.

Cheers

Lubos

On Tue, 2023-02-21 at 09:22 -0600, Larry Len Rainey wrote:

The Alpha version of 15.5 had MATE desktop as a choice. MATE is no longer offer nor is Cinnamon in 15.5. Some say MATE is stale - I say it is Mature, Stable, and relative bug free - what you want for a stable computer environment.

Yes, MATE still is in Tumbleweed, but many of those retired people I support do not have enough internet to support zypper dup that Tumbleweed requires way too often. They could not do windows 7, 8, 10 and 11. XP was the last Windows they were comfortable with. Some still use Windows XP and the mail app that they used with Windows 95.

I dropped Windows in the XP days - Centos was the 1st Full time Linux and I had VirtualBox working with an Windows XP guest on a 4 core computer with 4mb of ram. I had not completely wean myself off Windows as I had not found Linux apps to replace my Windows apps.

Many of us do not care for KDE or Gnome. The other choice LXDE does not provide all the options needed.

Looks like 15.4 is the last OpenSUSE version I will be supporting.

Mint Linux offers MATE as a standard desktop. That will probably be the winner as it has a long term version.

Over the next year I will be converting 145 OpenSUSE 15.4 running MATE to Mint Linux unless you can convince me that MATE is coming.

Larry Rainey - Unix since 1973, Linux since Mandrake was offered on CD in 1998.