Am 14.09.19 um 07:05 schrieb Andrei Borzenkov:
13.09.2019 22:48, Carlos E. R. пишет:
On 13/09/2019 14.27, Hagen Buliwyf wrote:
Am 13.09.19 um 12:42 schrieb Peter Suetterlin:
Hagen Buliwyf wrote:
In the meantime i found that no display manager at all was installed. Installing sddm brings me now to a graphical login screen an i can log into a plasma session.
Probably all was my fault because i don't know how to use KDE Plasma without a display manager ?
You are not supposed to not have and use a display manager. If it was missing, that's a bug, one is required.
Display manager is required only if local graphical login is needed. Headless system does not need display manager, but still may have graphical environment which allows running GUI applications (including full desktop) on demand (via SSH, VNC or whatever).
Thanks for answering to my post. So "System Role: Desktop with KDE Plasma" does not REQUIRE the installation of a desktop manager or to phrase it more precise: a desktop manager is only a "recommended" feature for this system role. I'm no native english speaker, so i guess that my understanding of the term "recommended" is obviously wrong. Please accept my apologizes for causing so much disturbance on this list.
There is no uncontroversial split between requirements and dependencies. Especially today, when containers are becoming more frequently used, every extra hard dependency will result in large total overhead.
Further discussion is pointless without knowing what exact patterns were selected during installation. Pattern kde_plasma recommends sddm. If user ignores recommends, user gets what (s)he asked for.
My personal opinion - Recommends are for experts to allow trimming their installation *when they know and understand what they are doing*. IOW anyone refusing to install recommends and getting into issues has only himself to blame.
I agree with you completely! Someone who dares to change an option three levels below the standard installation path defined by openSUSE should not be given any warning that her/his selection will cause grief changes to all selections she/he made before. That's the only way people like me will be able to learn about openSUSE. So there is no need for me to create a bugzilla report. Considering the fact that i already spent a lot of time on this installation that is great news. Regards Hagen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org