-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 darko gavrilovic wrote: | On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Klaus Kaempf wrote: |> It seems as if you have installed pulseaudio from packman, so patches |> for pulseaudio from openSUSE are invalid for your system. |> |> Now its up to you to decide if |> - you want to stay with openSUSE, then choose '1' |> - you want to stay with packman, then choose '2' | | Thank you. Then this is normal behavior for a system setup with | additional non-OpenSUSE repositories. I will leave it with the newer | version from Packman. Don't. It doesn't work (that pulseaudio version requires alsa patches). I informed the packager who maintains the pulseaudio packages in the Packman repository, and he reverted it to 0.9.10. So definitely go for pulseaudio 0.9.10, either from the Packman or the openSUSE repository ;) cheers - -- ~ -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ ~ /\\ ~ _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIk6str3NMWliFcXcRAtXjAKCPtoK5aP46IT73/98xb6/rPhbP+gCfR+/6 IjkD21pFe6WGrLyJY7rNKPQ= =qa52 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+help@opensuse.org

2008/8/1 Klaus Kaempf :

* darko gavrilovic [Aug 01. 2008 04:46]:

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Hello, please find the following patch conflict as per bug 387052.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=387052

I have Packman as a list repository.

It seems as if you have installed pulseaudio from packman, so patches for pulseaudio from openSUSE are invalid for your system. And it's normal that libzypp tries to install them? I saw something similar when adding the mozilla repo from OBS. It looked like bug #408675. "zypper lu" showed some mozilla patches to install (and all GUI apps do the same than "zypper lu"), but "zypper up" correctly ignored them until I disabled the mozilla OBS repo. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+help@opensuse.org

2008/8/3 Klaus Kaempf :

* Christian Morales Vega [Aug 02. 2008 02:54]:

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2008/8/1 Klaus Kaempf :

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* darko gavrilovic [Aug 01. 2008 04:46]:

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Hello, please find the following patch conflict as per bug 387052.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=387052

I have Packman as a list repository.

It seems as if you have installed pulseaudio from packman, so patches for pulseaudio from openSUSE are invalid for your system. And it's normal that libzypp tries to install them?

Well, libzypp informs you that there is an update for this package.

However, it does not(!) install it because this would imply a vendor change. The updater asks for the admins explicit approval.

Klaus

It does? In this specific case there is a conflict that requires a downgrade. I think only asks because of this, the vendor change is just something casual. Right now opensuseupdater-kde, with ZYpp backend, says me there are 49 updates available (all of them packages, I have all patches installed). One of them is the update from mjpegtools-1.9.0rc2-118.1 (from the DVD) to mjpegtools-1.9.0rc3-0.pm.1 (Packman). If I select mjpegtools it asks me the root password and installs it without more questions even when there is a vendor change. Even if it is doing what you say... this behavior provokes that just a few months after the release it informs me about 49 updates I don't want. This is a problem because someday there will be a 50th update that I will want... am I supposed to do a manual exhaustive search between 50 items *everytime* I want to be sure I don't miss an update I want? And the list will get bigger and bigger with time. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+help@opensuse.org

Hi,

On Sun, 3 Aug 2008, Christian Morales Vega wrote:

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It does? In this specific case there is a conflict that requires a downgrade. I think only asks because of this, the vendor change is just something casual.

Right now opensuseupdater-kde, with ZYpp backend, says me there are 49 updates available (all of them packages, I have all patches installed). One of them is the update from mjpegtools-1.9.0rc2-118.1 (from the DVD) to mjpegtools-1.9.0rc3-0.pm.1 (Packman). If I select mjpegtools it asks me the root password and installs it without more questions even when there is a vendor change.

Even if it is doing what you say... this behavior provokes that just a few months after the release it informs me about 49 updates I don't want. This is a problem because someday there will be a 50th update that I will want... am I supposed to do a manual exhaustive search between 50 items *everytime* I want to be sure I don't miss an update I want?

If you have all patches installed, then you have all relevant updates installed (e.g. released security updates, and important bugfixes). That the updater applet also shows packages with a newer version is an additional feature, if you don't want to manually track them you don't need to. But if you want to then yes, the only way is to manually inspect them.

I suppose the authors of the updater applet could add some feature that would allow the user to not show a particular package version as available anymore in order to make that list smaller without installing the newer packages. I guess an enhancement request would be appropriate. But libzypp has repository priorities support and a "do not change vendor" policy, zypper up -t package respects it. The updater "additional feature" should be to show "packages with a newer version"... ****ONLY**** in repositories with a higher priority and if

2008/8/4 Michael Matz : there is no vendor change. I need to hide some updates only because the updater doesn't respects repositories priorities and changes the vendor without asking. The updates I need to hide are updates that never should have been showed in first place. An option to hide updates perhaps could be usefull. But what is really needed is that the updater applet respects repository priorities and vendor changes. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Christian Morales Vega wrote:

But libzypp has repository priorities support and a "do not change vendor" policy, zypper up -t package respects it. The updater "additional feature" should be to show "packages with a newer version"... ****ONLY**** in repositories with a higher priority and if there is no vendor change.

I need to hide some updates only because the updater doesn't respects repositories priorities and changes the vendor without asking. The updates I need to hide are updates that never should have been showed in first place.

An option to hide updates perhaps could be usefull. But what is really needed is that the updater applet respects repository priorities and vendor changes.

I think that would be a great feature to have and very useful. Where do we sign up and request it? :-) -- regards, dg "..but the more you use clever tricks, the less support you'll get ..." -- M.W.Lucas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+help@opensuse.org