September 2008 - openSUSE Software Management

[softwaremgmt] dist update with KMPs
by Susanne Oberhauser 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

Hi, if I have KMPs installed from some driver kit (add-on with registered online update source), and the drivers won't make it to the next product / SP release, then I'll need to upgrade the KMP's add ons alongside the base product. Also, the KMPs (and the base products) need to be updated alongside the kernel, before a reboot, because after reboot without KMP update, the new kernel may fail to access the repos (network) or the disk (storage) or the display device (graphics). Will this be fixed / work with 11.1? Where can I find info on how the integrated upgrade of base distro with add-ons is planned? S. -- Susanne Oberhauser +49-911-74053-574 SUSE -- a Novell Business OPS Engineering Maxfeldstraße 5 Processes and Infrastructure Nürnberg SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+help(a)opensuse.org

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[softwaremgmt] zypper-0.12.7 update/list-updates now defaults to --type package
by Jano Kupec 02 Oct '08

02 Oct '08

To anyone who uses 'zypper update' or 'zypper list-updates' without explicitly specifying the --type option: the default has been changed from 'patch' to 'package' since zypper 0.12.7 For more info see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395480 cheers, jano -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+help(a)opensuse.org

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[softwaremgmt] ZYpp History Log
by Jan Kupec 30 Sep '08

30 Sep '08

Hi! I'm about to commit the first version of new history logging for libzypp, which will be described at http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp/Package_History This will replace the old /var/log/YaST/y2logRPM; the new log will be written to /var/log/zypp/history by default, configurable in zypp.conf. As per discussion with a few people, there should not be much to do to adapt to this change (it seems that libzypp was the only one writing to this file). You should just be prepared to request the file from bug reporters, if needed, because you won't get the file in the /var/log/YaST dir tarball. Also bug reporting wiki howtos can be adapted. We also can consider making a backup of the old log and leaving a note with the new location (yast2-core package could do this perhaps?). -- cheers, jano -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+help(a)opensuse.org

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[softwaremgmt] [zypper] Removeing all repositories possible
by Lars Behrens 08 Sep '08

08 Sep '08

Hi there, just starting to deal with OpenSuSE 11.0 for our upgrading our working group. First of all: Congratulations to the enhancements in package management, it's like a different world now! During adapting our installation scripts I found that something like "zypper rr all" or "zypper rr *" or so would be very useful for removeing all existing repos without fiddling out there names or numbers. Couldn't find something in the man page and my quick tests didn't work out. Cheerz, Lars -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+help(a)opensuse.org

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[softwaremgmt] What is wrong with softwaremgmt in 11.0. ¿SVN status?
by Christian Morales Vega 03 Sep '08

03 Sep '08

I'm going to try to list all the problems the current software management stack from openSUSE 11.0 has right now. All of them are because some parts ignore repository priorities and/or the "don't change vendor" rule. At http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-softwaremgmt/2008-07/msg00004.html and http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-softwaremgmt/2008-07/msg00005.html the problem was somehow discussed, but I don't know if there are plans to update the stack in 11.0, if the changes will be released only in 11.1 or if there are changes at all. Like discussed in the Jano Kupec threads "zyper lu" needs changes. The thing is it isn't a big problem since you can just ignore the fact that there exists a "lu" option... but there are derivated problem that are a lot more important. I don't know if they use the same code path, in which case a single fix would be needed or if a differtent patch for every problem is needed. 1- Installation of packages from YaST QT (and GTK?) software management module. VideoLAN repo provides libffmpeg0-0.4.9.13782-1.2 while Packman provides libffmpeg0-0.4.9svn-20080818.pm.0. I have Packman with a higher priority than VideoLAN. Now "zypper in libffmpeg0" will try to install the Packman version. That's correct. But if I try to install it through YaST... I left-click over the package, right click on it and select "Install". Everything correct, isn't? Well no because it has selected the VideoLAN version since "0.4.9.13782" is higher (somehow...) than "0.4.9svn-20080818". The worse thing is that I will not notice it if I don't manually go to the "Versions" tab. So *everytime* I install something from YaST I must go to the Versions tab to check the version selected is the one I want. 2- Update of packages through YaST QT (and GTK?) software management module. "zypper up -t package" will correctly update my system. But if I go to YaST and select Package->All Packages->Update if newer version available it will try to install newer versions even if they change vendor and/or are in repositories with a lower priority. A recurrent problem here is with multimedia. If you go to the forums you will see people complaining that after an update they can no longer see MPEG-4 ASP videos. They first install the Packman packages and all is good, since Packman has his own vendor string an update should never change to packages from openSUSE (that don't support patented codecs) or VideoLAN (that don't play nice mixed with Packman ones). But since the updater applet and YaST ignore the vendor string theirs systems end with a mix of multimedia packages from VideoLAN, Packman and openSUSE... and they must reinstall the Packman packages again. 3- KDE updater applet Exactly the same problem that '2'. 4- zypper dup It looks at vendor strings and doesn't changes between vendors, but it ignores repository priorities. Not a big problem right now, but I would like to have a fix for 11.0 before people starts updating to 11.1. So, are all of them just a single thing? A single fix in libzypp will make zypper, updater applet and YaST work correctly or I should open a different bug report for each of them? Is this fix already in SVN versions? There are plans of a fix for 11.0? In my opinion: - '1' isn't a big problem, can wait. - '3' (and perhaps '2') NEEDS a fix for 11.0. Isn't just an improvement, it's a bug. Right now the updater applet is totally unusable. I can ignore "zypper lu" and just use "zypper up", but with the applet I can't ignore the problem... "zypper lu" is the only option available. - '4' should be fixed for 11.0 before 11.1 is released. I'm worried about '2' and '3' since bug #402770 was closed with WONTFIX (and '1' is also similar). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-softwaremgmt+help(a)opensuse.org

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