One of Ubuntu's strong points as I understand is the fact that it has packages for "everything" and they all can be installed easily with apt-get.
SUSE has made a great step towards "everything" with Build Service, there are now a lot of nice repositories there with cool stuff.
But it's still difficult to install software from the Build Service repositories. First, you need to browse the site, then figure out the repository link, go to YaST and add it there. There should be a way in YaST that lists all the repos in Build Service with short descriptions of the contents. This list must be automated, not maintained by somebody. When a new repository is created in the Build Service, it should automagically be listed.
And more:
Right now, Konqueror has a very useful feature: when clicking a .rpm link on a webpage, it downloads the .rpm and displays a button "Install with YaST". It's genius.
Extending this feature would be to be able to click on a link to a file that describes an installation source and Konqueror would display a button "Add this installation source".
The current situation is not easy enough, the user needs to go to YaST installation sources and type or copy/paste an url from somewhere. Too much for a lot of people.
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Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
One of Ubuntu's strong points as I understand is the fact that it has packages for "everything" and they all can be installed easily with apt-get.
SUSE has made a great step towards "everything" with Build Service, there are now a lot of nice repositories there with cool stuff.
But it's still difficult to install software from the Build Service repositories. First, you need to browse the site, then figure out the repository link, go to YaST and add it there. There should be a way in YaST that lists all the repos in Build Service with short descriptions of the contents. This list must be automated, not maintained by somebody. When a new repository is created in the Build Service, it should automagically be listed.
And more:
Right now, Konqueror has a very useful feature: when clicking a .rpm link on a webpage, it downloads the .rpm and displays a button "Install with YaST". It's genius.
Extending this feature would be to be able to click on a link to a file that describes an installation source and Konqueror would display a button "Add this installation source".
The current situation is not easy enough, the user needs to go to YaST installation sources and type or copy/paste an url from somewhere. Too much for a lot of people.
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I support that idea! Also when you start the Yast module to add sources, why does it download files from all the sources? If I want to refresh the sources, I can do that manually. Now it only makes everything SLOOOW, and makes me rather add a source in Smart instead and use that...
/J
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 11:09, Jan Karjalainen wrote:
If I want to refresh the sources, I can do that manually. Now it only makes everything SLOOOW, and makes me rather add a source in Smart instead and use that...
You can set the source refresh to "off" in YaST installation sources. That is only useful for sources you know that don't get new versions of software in them, like the DVD or the main distro installation repository. But those are "refresh off" by default. For example, packman is "refresh on" because it can have an newer mplayer and zen-updater will offer to update it.
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Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 11:09, Jan Karjalainen wrote:
If I want to refresh the sources, I can do that manually. Now it only makes everything SLOOOW, and makes me rather add a source in Smart instead and use that...
You can set the source refresh to "off" in YaST installation sources. That is only useful for sources you know that don't get new versions of software in them, like the DVD or the main distro installation repository. But those are "refresh off" by default. For example, packman is "refresh on" because it can have an newer mplayer and zen-updater will offer to update it.
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Well, I kind of knew that, why wouldn't I? The thing is, when you have Packman, Guru, KDE, Wine, Beryl and more, it tends to take a while before it refreshes every source. Why it does it when one wants to add or update sources is beyond me...
/J
Onsdag 24 januar 2007 10:27 skrev Jan Karjalainen:
The thing is, when you have Packman, Guru, KDE, Wine, Beryl and more, it tends to take a while before it refreshes every source. Why it does it when one wants to add or update sources is beyond me...
It has been discussed many times, and the responsible devs acknowledge that it's not the way it should work. We can expect it to be "fixed" in the future.
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Onsdag 24 januar 2007 09:24 skrev Silviu Marin-Caea:
One of Ubuntu's strong points as I understand is the fact that it has packages for "everything" and they all can be installed easily with apt-get.
SUSE has made a great step towards "everything" with Build Service, there are now a lot of nice repositories there with cool stuff.
But it's still difficult to install software from the Build Service repositories. First, you need to browse the site, then figure out the repository link, go to YaST and add it there.
The community delivers this to a certain degree already:
Package search: http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/
Add most common repos with a few clicks: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=43378
Benjamin is working on adding functionality to install packages to his already great package search afaik.
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