On Thursday 2010-07-22 10:56, Stephan Kleine wrote:

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What do you think?

Identity implies consistency. I want my green. And quite frankly, even changing the artwork every release I consider too much. (The 11.3 backgrounds are some ugly cyanide bubble mix; I am still using a retrofitted 11.1 grayband theme.)

Well, make up the "corporate identity" by shapes or some Geeko logo but I just had it with the same color. Why should we always stick with that green?

Why should we not? Red is "taken" by Redhat, Brown/Purple by Ubuntu, Blue by Fedora, and SUSE filled the green slot. Not much left in the color wheel. The only way out seems to use black - which isn't a color (at least, if you ask physicists). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 2010-07-22 11:30, Administrator wrote:

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Why should we not? Red is "taken" by Redhat, Brown/Purple by Ubuntu, Blue by Fedora, and SUSE filled the green slot. Not much left in the color wheel.

The only way out seems to use black - which isn't a color (at least, if you ask physicists).

Could I suggest putting questions like that into the hands of people who care about colour (that excludes most "techies" - look at how they dress).

Whatever dress has to do with artwork colors. (Look at PHBs and other tie-wearers.) It almost sounds like a pimp should choose Ubuntu 10 because it matches his (associated stereotypical) dress.

I'd suggest having 4 seasonal colour schemes available (which could all incorporate some kind of green chameleon). There are other possibilities.

Why not even ask the user at install time what his preferred color - in Hue units - is, and then apply a color wheel rotation on all artwork files. Then nobody can complain anymore.

There must be some people in the openSUSE world who care about fashion and colour and style and design ... where are their voices?

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On Thursday July 22 2010 12:34:26 Administrator wrote:

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It almost sounds like a pimp should choose Ubuntu 10 because it matches his (associated stereotypical) dress.

It's a way of shifting product ... we could do the bling openSUSE that has stars and flashing lights and twinkly bits ... and a grunge version ...

A quick looks through the range of coloured and patterned covers for iPads shows the popularity of such things. Something to copy?

David

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On Thursday July 22 2010 11:16:04 Jan Engelhardt wrote:

On Thursday 2010-07-22 10:56, Stephan Kleine wrote:

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What do you think?

Identity implies consistency. I want my green. And quite frankly, even changing the artwork every release I consider too much. (The 11.3 backgrounds are some ugly cyanide bubble mix; I am still using a retrofitted 11.1 grayband theme.)

Well, make up the "corporate identity" by shapes or some Geeko logo but I just had it with the same color. Why should we always stick with that green?

Why should we not? Red is "taken" by Redhat, Brown/Purple by Ubuntu, Blue by Fedora, and SUSE filled the green slot. Not much left in the color wheel.

The only way out seems to use black - which isn't a color (at least, if you ask physicists).

Well,why should we not do not? I'm absolutely not nailing this on the color, except that I'm personally tired of that green - e.g. we had some blue release too (iirc 10.x). Point just being that by sticking to some animal and its colors it gives us much more playground colorwise (not speaking of some funky mascots) instead of always having the same in a different shade. Once again, I'm not saying to get rid of the Geeko but IMHO it could also be incorporated as some stylish logo within other colors. Just make it a bit different and fresh instead of repeating "the same old stuff" on every release (no offense art team ;D). E.g. gnoki's latest post about the installer was marvelous. Why not expand that beyond the installer by, GASP, using another color for some release? IMHO using an animal as code name and its main colors as colors for some release allows us to try new things while staying untouchable from the "regardless what you do I will always find some political incorrect thing" crowd. So, IMHO, it gives us the options to try extreme stuff like black & white - Zebra - or some extremely colorful stuff - like some coral fish. The important point is that our stuff has to be aligned the get easily setup with a new color scheme _and_ it also should be easy to install an earlier version _that also has to work_ so everyone can be happy. Perhaps in other words define the "corporate identity" by logos, shapes and forms instead of colors (that would be even a new thing) and experiment a bit with colors (no, please no pink) ;D -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday July 22 2010 12:39:53 Jan Engelhardt wrote:

On Thursday 2010-07-22 12:32, Stephan Kleine wrote:

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Well, make up the "corporate identity" by shapes or some Geeko logo but I just had it with the same color. Why should we always stick with that green?

Why should we not? Red is "taken" by Redhat, Brown/Purple by Ubuntu, Blue by Fedora, and SUSE filled the green slot. Not much left in the color wheel.

The only way out seems to use black - which isn't a color (at least, if you ask physicists).

Well,why should we not do not?

"Never change a running uh ecosystem" :)

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e.g. we had some blue release too (iirc 10.x)

Blue was for the boring Personal Edition (which was later dropped). Professional has always been green --- nonwithstanding that some _desktop wallpapers_ were blue, but the overall dominant SUSE color was still green.

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Point just being that by sticking to some animal and its colors it gives us much more playground colorwise (not speaking of some funky mascots) instead of always having the same in a different shade.

But why animals? Why not flowers? (I guess I've just found the thing to set it apart from Ubuntu.)

Cause animals are more "interesting"? ;P

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So, IMHO, it gives us the options to try extreme stuff like black & white - Zebra - or some extremely colorful stuff - like some coral fish.

"Find Nemo^WopenSUSE" comes to mind, heh. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

Jan Engelhardt wrote:

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Point just being that by sticking to some animal and its colors it gives us much more playground colorwise (not speaking of some funky mascots) instead of always having the same in a different shade.

But why animals? Why not flowers?

or minerals or vegetables or planets, solar systems, constellations, stars . . . or tartan patterns.. expand your thinking! it is NOT required to mimic *buntu, Redmond, Jobs etc etc etc.. DenverD -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 2010-07-22 13:20, DenverD wrote:

Jan Engelhardt wrote:

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Point just being that by sticking to some animal and its colors it gives us much more playground colorwise (not speaking of some funky mascots) instead of always having the same in a different shade.

But why animals? Why not flowers?

or minerals

Sounds good.

or vegetables

Asparagus has already been proposed

or planets,

P3X-797 [1], yeah, I can see the flaw in that. :) [1] http://tinyurl.com/23ptzv6 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

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Point just being that by sticking to some animal and its colors it gives us much more playground colorwise (not speaking of some funky mascots) instead of always having the same in a different shade.

But why animals? Why not flowers?

or minerals or vegetables or planets, solar systems, constellations, stars . . . or tartan patterns..

absolutely! why not thinking about car models or even starship models like from star trek, they have great sounding names like ... constellation, sovereign, nebula and many more ... i think using something regarding stars or even scifi is a good idea - there have been lots of guys around already trying to find some futuristic names which sound good ... why not profit from that?

it is NOT required to mimic *buntu, Redmond, Jobs etc etc etc..

same here ... using animals is pretty out IMHO... you stick to those animals in some kind, think of using "Lemmings", what fun... - mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

Hello,

On Thursday July 22 2010 11:16:04 Jan Engelhardt wrote:

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On Thursday 2010-07-22 10:56, Stephan Kleine wrote:

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What do you think?

Identity implies consistency. I want my green. And quite frankly, even changing the artwork every release I consider too much. (The 11.3 backgrounds are some ugly cyanide bubble mix; I am still using a retrofitted 11.1 grayband theme.)

Well, make up the "corporate identity" by shapes or some Geeko logo but I just had it with the same color. Why should we always stick with that green?

Why should we not? Red is "taken" by Redhat, Brown/Purple by Ubuntu, Blue by Fedora, and SUSE filled the green slot. Not much left in the color wheel.

The only way out seems to use black - which isn't a color (at least, if you ask physicists).

Well,why should we not do not? I'm absolutely not nailing this on the color, except that I'm personally tired of that green - e.g. we had some blue release too (iirc 10.x). Point just being that by sticking to some animal and its colors it gives us much more playground colorwise (not speaking of some funky mascots) instead of always having the same in a different shade.

Once again, I'm not saying to get rid of the Geeko but IMHO it could also be incorporated as some stylish logo within other colors. Just make it a bit different and fresh instead of repeating "the same old stuff" on every release (no offense art team ;D). E.g. gnoki's latest post about the installer was marvelous. Why not expand that beyond the installer by, GASP, using another color for some release?

That was not what I want! My target was not to replace the green, it was to give the whole distribution a good and first the same design. There exist some mockups and they are green, even they I published in my blog are green - its a petrol green

IMHO using an animal as code name and its main colors as colors for some release allows us to try new things while staying untouchable from the "regardless what you do I will always find some political incorrect thing" crowd.

So, IMHO, it gives us the options to try extreme stuff like black & white - Zebra - or some extremely colorful stuff - like some coral fish.

I remember there was an experiment to make a codename system, it started with Agama Lizard. I agree the choose simple a name of an animal is to nearby ubuntu. When there should an system for code names there should be an really openSUSE like system not a simple copy of systems from ubuntu or fedora. Why not choose green things like coolo do it? But in a system, so that can the community choose a codename?

The important point is that our stuff has to be aligned the get easily setup with a new color scheme _and_ it also should be easy to install an earlier version _that also has to work_ so everyone can be happy.

Perhaps in other words define the "corporate identity" by logos, shapes and forms instead of colors (that would be even a new thing) and experiment a bit with colors (no, please no pink) ;D

green is a part of that identity and shouldnt removed! br gnokii -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 2010-07-23 14:38, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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Stephan Kleine wrote:

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E.g. we could use a Zebra for some stylish black and white theme or some exotic fish for some more colorful one or ... the choice is endless.

A chameleon that'll take on whatever colour to fit into the background? Even looks a bit like geeko :-)

:D

@stephan: I would not discuss something artsy on this mailinglist. Why not bring it up on the opensuse-artwork mailinglist? The naming thing could be discussed with them and with the marketing team, it's a branding thing after all.

Meh, yet another mailing list to subscribe to. As if I didn't get enough mail yet. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org