On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Greg KH gregkh@suse.de wrote: <snip>
greg k-h
p.s. tumbleweed is working right now for those who wish to try it out on an 11.3 based system...
It's not working for me. I don't have any issues with other repos
===
sudo zypper lr
# | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh --+-----------------------------+-------------------------------------+---------+-------- 1 | KDE:Release:45 | KDE:Release:45 | Yes | Yes 2 | Main_Repository_(DEBUG) | Main Repository (DEBUG) | Yes | Yes 3 | Packman_Repository_1 | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes 4 | openSUSE-11.3_Contrib | openSUSE-11.3 Contrib | No | Yes 5 | openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Extras_45 | openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Extras_45 | Yes | Yes 6 | openSUSE_Tumbleweed | openSUSE:Tumbleweed (openSUSE_11.3) | Yes | Yes 7 | repo-11.3-non-oss | openSUSE-11.3 Non-OSS | Yes | No 8 | repo-11.3-oss | openSUSE-11.3 OSS | Yes | No 9 | repo-11.3-update | openSUSE-11.3 Updates | Yes | Yes
But:
zypper se -s git | grep -w 'git '
v | git | package | 1.7.1-1.14 | x86_64 | openSUSE-11.3 OSS v | git | package | 1.7.1-1.14 | i586 | openSUSE-11.3 OSS i | git | package | 1.7.1-1.11 | x86_64 | (System Packages)
doesn't show an available version of git in tumbleweed and I think it is supposed to.
Also tumbleweed is repo 6, but when I try to do a dup from it I get nothing. (I've tried this several times before, it has not yet worked)
sudo zypper dup --from 6
root's password: Retrieving repository 'KDE:Release:45' metadata [done] Building repository 'KDE:Release:45' cache [done] Retrieving repository 'Packman Repository' metadata [done] Building repository 'Packman Repository' cache [done] Retrieving repository 'openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Extras_45' metadata [done] Building repository 'openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Extras_45' cache [done] Retrieving repository 'openSUSE-11.3 Updates' metadata [done] Building repository 'openSUSE-11.3 Updates' cache [done] Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Computing distribution upgrade...
Nothing to do. ==============
Let me know if I can troubleshoot this some more.
Greg
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 01:35:03PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
Let me know if I can troubleshoot this some more.
Wierd.
Try sending me the following output: $ rpm -qa | grep git-core $ rpm -qi git | grep Distribution $ sudo zypper install git
thanks,
greg k-h
Greg, is there any page in the openSUSE Wiki documenting Tumbleweed? If not yet, I suggest to start with one...
thanks, Andreas
Am 29.12.2010 21:29, schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
Greg, is there any page in the openSUSE Wiki documenting Tumbleweed? If not yet, I suggest to start with one...
thanks, Andreas
I´ve started a page for the German-wiki. http://www.de.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed
But I need help to get information and maybe some pictures.
kdl
Greg, is there any page in the openSUSE Wiki documenting Tumbleweed? If not yet, I suggest to start with one...
Coincidentally, Zonker and another journalist was also asking about a wiki page roughly in the same time as your mail :) So, I went ahead and created the page:
http://en.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed
Please make changes to the page as needed. Is it a good idea to link this page from http://software.opensuse.org ?
From the wiki styling guidelines, I believe it is better to create the
Tumbleweed wiki page in the top-level instead of under something else like "Portal:" . Please change the url if it is wrong. I am not able to connect to IRC now and so sorry about not discussing with the wiki team in advance, before creating a new page, if the suffix is wrong.
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Sankar P sankar.curiosity@gmail.com wrote:
Greg, is there any page in the openSUSE Wiki documenting Tumbleweed? If not yet, I suggest to start with one...
Coincidentally, Zonker and another journalist was also asking about a wiki page roughly in the same time as your mail :) So, I went ahead and created the page:
http://en.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed
Please make changes to the page as needed. Is it a good idea to link this page from http://software.opensuse.org ?
From the wiki styling guidelines, I believe it is better to create the Tumbleweed wiki page in the top-level instead of under something else like "Portal:" . Please change the url if it is wrong. I am not able to connect to IRC now and so sorry about not discussing with the wiki team in advance, before creating a new page, if the suffix is wrong.
-- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com
I updated "How to try Tumbleweed ?"
=== 1) To your YaST/Zypper Installation repositories, Add the Tumbleweed repository and enable autorefresh
zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/ Tumbleweed zypper mr -r Tumbleweed
2) Do a distro update from Tumbleweed as needed. The first time you will need to accept the GPG key:
zypper dup --from Tumbleweed ===
I assume that's right, but I'm posting here since its a material change to the instruction.
Greg F.
2011/1/3 Greg Freemyer greg.freemyer@gmail.com:
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Sankar P sankar.curiosity@gmail.com wrote:
Greg, is there any page in the openSUSE Wiki documenting Tumbleweed? If not yet, I suggest to start with one...
Coincidentally, Zonker and another journalist was also asking about a wiki page roughly in the same time as your mail :) So, I went ahead and created the page:
http://en.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed
Please make changes to the page as needed. Is it a good idea to link this page from http://software.opensuse.org ?
From the wiki styling guidelines, I believe it is better to create the Tumbleweed wiki page in the top-level instead of under something else like "Portal:" . Please change the url if it is wrong. I am not able to connect to IRC now and so sorry about not discussing with the wiki team in advance, before creating a new page, if the suffix is wrong.
-- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com
I updated "How to try Tumbleweed ?"
===
- To your YaST/Zypper Installation repositories, Add the Tumbleweed
repository and enable autorefresh
zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/ Tumbleweed zypper mr -r Tumbleweed
If I'm not wrong you can enable autorefresh when addind a repo:
zypper ar -f (or --refresh) http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/ Tumbleweed
Regards,
Luiz
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Luiz Fernando Ranghetti elchevive68@gmail.com wrote: <snip>
===
- To your YaST/Zypper Installation repositories, Add the Tumbleweed
repository and enable autorefresh
zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/ Tumbleweed zypper mr -r Tumbleweed
If I'm not wrong you can enable autorefresh when addind a repo:
zypper ar -f (or --refresh) http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/ Tumbleweed
Thanks, changed wiki to use --refresh
Greg
Hi all,
I had an 11.3 setup in a virtual machine and tried moving to Tumbleweed. After zypper dup, the vm is not booting.
I am wondering if I should have removed all repositories of 11.3 before I did that.... Any ideas?
I want to try a new setup.
Regards, Angelos
On 01/03/2011 06:22 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Sankar Psankar.curiosity@gmail.com wrote:
Greg, is there any page in the openSUSE Wiki documenting Tumbleweed? If not yet, I suggest to start with one...
Coincidentally, Zonker and another journalist was also asking about a wiki page roughly in the same time as your mail :) So, I went ahead and created the page:
http://en.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed
Please make changes to the page as needed. Is it a good idea to link this page from http://software.opensuse.org ?
From the wiki styling guidelines, I believe it is better to create the Tumbleweed wiki page in the top-level instead of under something else like "Portal:" . Please change the url if it is wrong. I am not able to connect to IRC now and so sorry about not discussing with the wiki team in advance, before creating a new page, if the suffix is wrong.
-- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com
I updated "How to try Tumbleweed ?"
===
- To your YaST/Zypper Installation repositories, Add the Tumbleweed
repository and enable autorefresh
zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/ Tumbleweed zypper mr -r Tumbleweed
- Do a distro update from Tumbleweed as needed. The first time you
will need to accept the GPG key:
zypper dup --from Tumbleweed
I assume that's right, but I'm posting here since its a material change to the instruction.
Greg F.
Am Montag, den 03.01.2011, 19:54 +0200 schrieb Angelos Tzotsos:
Hi all,
I had an 11.3 setup in a virtual machine and tried moving to Tumbleweed. After zypper dup, the vm is not booting.
What means the VM is not booting? What exactly is happening? Does the kernel try to load?
I am wondering if I should have removed all repositories of 11.3 before I did that....
I guess not, because basically tumbleweed is just adding newer versions of those in 11.3, or new packages.
Any ideas?
I installed 11.3, added the tumbleweed repo, set it to autorefresh, and did zypper dup --from Tumbleweed
Works since then, Holger
I want to try a new setup.
Regards, Angelos
Hi Holger,
On 01/03/2011 08:18 PM, Holger Hetterich wrote:
Am Montag, den 03.01.2011, 19:54 +0200 schrieb Angelos Tzotsos:
Hi all,
I had an 11.3 setup in a virtual machine and tried moving to Tumbleweed. After zypper dup, the vm is not booting.
What means the VM is not booting? What exactly is happening? Does the kernel try to load?
The kernel is booting but the virtual-box additions fail I installed a text-based system and it works ok under virtual box.
I am wondering if I should have removed all repositories of 11.3 before I did that....
I guess not, because basically tumbleweed is just adding newer versions of those in 11.3, or new packages.
What about the 11.3 updates? Are they needed?
What happens when 11.4 is released?
Any ideas?
I installed 11.3, added the tumbleweed repo, set it to autorefresh, and did zypper dup --from Tumbleweed
Works since then, Holger
This works ok for me too in a server setup.
I want to try a new setup.
Regards, Angelos
Regards,
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Angelos Tzotsos gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Holger,
On 01/03/2011 08:18 PM, Holger Hetterich wrote:
Am Montag, den 03.01.2011, 19:54 +0200 schrieb Angelos Tzotsos:
Hi all,
I had an 11.3 setup in a virtual machine and tried moving to Tumbleweed. After zypper dup, the vm is not booting.
What means the VM is not booting? What exactly is happening? Does the kernel try to load?
The kernel is booting but the virtual-box additions fail I installed a text-based system and it works ok under virtual box.
I am wondering if I should have removed all repositories of 11.3 before I did that....
I guess not, because basically tumbleweed is just adding newer versions of those in 11.3, or new packages.
What about the 11.3 updates? Are they needed?
What happens when 11.4 is released?
Tumbleweed is very young as a concept.
The goal is to have it be self contained and not rely on the 11.3 / 11.4 / etc. repos.
But at this very early proof-of-concept stage it is a add-on repo to 11.3.
My assumption is it will be moved to 11.4 as a base as soon as 11.4 is stable enough to use for that. (ie. I doubt Tumbleweed will be self-contained prior to 11.4's release in 3 months.)
Greg F.
Hi Greg,
I understand that Tumbleweed is a proof-of-concept. I am looking forward to use it in production :)
I will keep testing (runlevel 3 under virtual box) and report back any findings
Thanks, Angelos
On 01/04/2011 01:33 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
Tumbleweed is very young as a concept.
The goal is to have it be self contained and not rely on the 11.3 / 11.4 / etc. repos.
But at this very early proof-of-concept stage it is a add-on repo to 11.3.
My assumption is it will be moved to 11.4 as a base as soon as 11.4 is stable enough to use for that. (ie. I doubt Tumbleweed will be self-contained prior to 11.4's release in 3 months.)
Greg F.
On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 01:00:07AM +0200, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
Hi Holger,
On 01/03/2011 08:18 PM, Holger Hetterich wrote:
Am Montag, den 03.01.2011, 19:54 +0200 schrieb Angelos Tzotsos:
Hi all,
I had an 11.3 setup in a virtual machine and tried moving to Tumbleweed. After zypper dup, the vm is not booting.
What means the VM is not booting? What exactly is happening? Does the kernel try to load?
The kernel is booting but the virtual-box additions fail I installed a text-based system and it works ok under virtual box.
Does a 11.3 system with just the kernel updated from Kernel:stable also have the same issues?
I don't use virtual-box at all, (and after reading the source, I wouldn't recommend anyone else...) so I can't offer much help here, sorry.
I do test Tumbleweed right now in some hyper-v guest instances, and on real x86-64 and i386 hardware with no problems so far with it.
I am wondering if I should have removed all repositories of 11.3 before I did that....
I guess not, because basically tumbleweed is just adding newer versions of those in 11.3, or new packages.
What about the 11.3 updates? Are they needed?
At this point in time, yes.
What happens when 11.4 is released?
Hopefully we will have that figured out by then :)
thanks,
greg k-h
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:58:49 -0800, Greg KH gregkh@suse.de wrote:
On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 01:00:07AM +0200, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
I don't use virtual-box at all, (and after reading the source, I wouldn't recommend anyone else...) so I can't offer much help here, sorry.
Assuming an openSUSE 11.3 host on a 64-bit AMD machine with the magic hardware bits, what would you recommend for "general" testing, including occasional Windows Vista 32-bit guests? I just updated my VMware Workstation license to 7.1, and have been testing VirtualBox 4.0.0. Xen is a pain in the rear on one of my machines (the one with the NVidia GPU, but it seems a lot easier to use than KVM/QEMU.
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 06:21:26PM -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:58:49 -0800, Greg KH gregkh@suse.de wrote:
On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 01:00:07AM +0200, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
I don't use virtual-box at all, (and after reading the source, I wouldn't recommend anyone else...) so I can't offer much help here, sorry.
Assuming an openSUSE 11.3 host on a 64-bit AMD machine with the magic hardware bits, what would you recommend for "general" testing, including occasional Windows Vista 32-bit guests? I just updated my VMware Workstation license to 7.1, and have been testing VirtualBox 4.0.0. Xen is a pain in the rear on one of my machines (the one with the NVidia GPU, but it seems a lot easier to use than KVM/QEMU.
vmware is great, I've tested on that as well as kvm guests, but you are right, managing kvm and xen guests is a bit more difficult at the moment, unfortunately.
good luck,
greg k-h
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:11:22 -0800, Greg KH gregkh@suse.de wrote:
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 06:21:26PM -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:58:49 -0800, Greg KH gregkh@suse.de wrote:
On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 01:00:07AM +0200, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
I don't use virtual-box at all, (and after reading the source, I wouldn't recommend anyone else...) so I can't offer much help here, sorry.
Assuming an openSUSE 11.3 host on a 64-bit AMD machine with the magic hardware bits, what would you recommend for "general" testing,
including
occasional Windows Vista 32-bit guests? I just updated my VMware Workstation license to 7.1, and have been testing VirtualBox 4.0.0. Xen is a pain in the rear on one of my machines (the one with the NVidia GPU, but it seems a lot easier to use than KVM/QEMU.
vmware is great, I've tested on that as well as kvm guests, but you are right, managing kvm and xen guests is a bit more difficult at the moment, unfortunately.
I just ran a Xen test last night (openSUSE guest) and it was a lot better than the last time I tried it. I'm probably going to switch to an 11.4 M5 host the next time just to make sure it's not badly messed up.
Hello Greg,
I will test with just the kernel updated from kernel:stable and report back to you.
I haven't looked at the virtual box source code, can you please specify your reasons about that? Is it a security issue?
Regards, Angelos
On 01/04/2011 02:58 AM, Greg KH wrote:
Does a 11.3 system with just the kernel updated from Kernel:stable also have the same issues?
I don't use virtual-box at all, (and after reading the source, I wouldn't recommend anyone else...) so I can't offer much help here, sorry.
I do test Tumbleweed right now in some hyper-v guest instances, and on real x86-64 and i386 hardware with no problems so far with it.
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 02:36:10AM +0200, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
Hello Greg,
I will test with just the kernel updated from kernel:stable and report back to you.
I haven't looked at the virtual box source code, can you please specify your reasons about that?
Well, if you look at the code, I think you will understand :)
Is it a security issue?
Probably, I never got that far, I didn't want to clean up the vomit digging that deep would have caused to happen...
thanks,
greg k-h
Hi Greg,
ok, I will check the code when I have some free time :)
Regards, Angelos
On 01/05/2011 03:04 AM, Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 02:36:10AM +0200, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
Hello Greg,
I will test with just the kernel updated from kernel:stable and report back to you.
I haven't looked at the virtual box source code, can you please specify your reasons about that?
Well, if you look at the code, I think you will understand :)
Is it a security issue?
Probably, I never got that far, I didn't want to clean up the vomit digging that deep would have caused to happen...
thanks,
greg k-h
On Monday, January 03, 2011 07:03:05 am Sankar P wrote:
Tumbleweed wiki page in the top-level instead of under something else like "Portal:"
Top level is for presentation, and right now small article looking like FAQ is good enough, but any Portal: page is a main connection hub and a front page for the topic.
As volume of information about Tumbleweed grows, we will have to create Portal page.
2010/12/17 Greg Freemyer greg.freemyer@gmail.com:
6 | openSUSE_Tumbleweed | openSUSE:Tumbleweed (openSUSE_11.3) | Yes | Yes
The URL is http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/, no http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/openSUSE_11.3...
(destroy the second path would be a good idea)
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 07:58:15PM +0100, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
2010/12/17 Greg Freemyer greg.freemyer@gmail.com:
6 | openSUSE_Tumbleweed | openSUSE:Tumbleweed (openSUSE_11.3) | Yes | Yes
The URL is http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/, no http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/openSUSE_11.3...
(destroy the second path would be a good idea)
Any idea how to do that?
thanks,
greg k-h
2010/12/17 Greg KH gregkh@suse.de:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 07:58:15PM +0100, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
2010/12/17 Greg Freemyer greg.freemyer@gmail.com:
6 | openSUSE_Tumbleweed | openSUSE:Tumbleweed (openSUSE_11.3) | Yes | Yes
The URL is http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/, no http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/openSUSE_11.3...
(destroy the second path would be a good idea)
Any idea how to do that?
Asking Adrian? :-p
Unrelated, the keyutils package from Tumbleweed is older than the one from 11.3. You should take it from the security project, not from network:samba:STABLE (and probably network:samba:STABLE should do the same).
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 08:46:47PM +0100, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
Unrelated, the keyutils package from Tumbleweed is older than the one from 11.3. You should take it from the security project, not from network:samba:STABLE (and probably network:samba:STABLE should do the same).
Ah, ok, I'll drop keyutils from Tumbleweed entirely, as that should solve the problem. I didn't notice the version regression, thanks for pointing it out.
And yes, go poke the samba developers to update their version as well, as you would think STABLE would have a newer version.
thanks,
greg k-h
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Cristian Morales Vega cmorve69@yahoo.es wrote:
2010/12/17 Greg Freemyer greg.freemyer@gmail.com:
6 | openSUSE_Tumbleweed | openSUSE:Tumbleweed (openSUSE_11.3) | Yes | Yes
The URL is http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/, no http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/openSUSE_11.3...
(destroy the second path would be a good idea)
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RE: Greg KH's questions ===
rpm -qa | grep git-core
git-core-1.7.1-1.11.x86_64
rpm -qi git | grep Distribution
Distribution: openSUSE Factory (I don't know why this is Factory)
sudo zypper install git
Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies...
The following package is going to be upgraded: git
1 package to upgrade. Overall download size: 17.0 KiB. No additional space will be used or freed after the operation. Continue? [y/n/?] (y): Retrieving package git-1.7.1-1.14.x86_64 (1/1), 17.0 KiB (3.0 KiB unpacked) Retrieving: git-1.7.1-1.14.x86_64.rpm [done] Installing: git-1.7.1-1.14 [done] There are some running programs that use files deleted by recent upgrade. You may wish to restart some of them. Run 'zypper ps' to list these programs. ===
RE: Cristian's comment that I have the wrong repo url
I must have a corrupt repo situation?
I've just removed my old tumbleweed repo and added the above. zypper search is still not finding anything.
But I'm getting an error about one of my repos.
See "[|] Repository type can't be determined." in the zypper search command below.
==== zypper commands with output
sudo zypper rr 6
Removing repository 'openSUSE:Tumbleweed (openSUSE_11.3)' [done] Repository 'openSUSE:Tumbleweed (openSUSE_11.3)' has been removed.
sudo zypper lr
# | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh --+-----------------------------+-----------------------------+---------+-------- 1 | KDE:Release:45 | KDE:Release:45 | Yes | Yes 2 | Main_Repository_(DEBUG) | Main Repository (DEBUG) | Yes | Yes 3 | Packman_Repository_1 | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes 4 | openSUSE-11.3_Contrib | openSUSE-11.3 Contrib | No | Yes 5 | openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Extras_45 | openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Extras_45 | Yes | Yes 6 | repo-11.3-non-oss | openSUSE-11.3 Non-OSS | Yes | No 7 | repo-11.3-oss | openSUSE-11.3 OSS | Yes | No 8 | repo-11.3-update | openSUSE-11.3 Updates | Yes | Yes
sudo zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/open... tumbleweed
Adding repository 'tumbleweed' [done] Repository 'tumbleweed' successfully added Enabled: Yes Autorefresh: No URI: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/open...
sudo zypper lr 6
Alias : repo-11.3-non-oss Name : openSUSE-11.3 Non-OSS URI : http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.3/repo/non-oss/ Enabled : Yes Priority : 99 Auto-refresh : Off Keep Packages : Off Type : yast2 GPG Check : On GPG Key URI : Path Prefix : Parent Service : MD Cache Path : /var/cache/zypp/raw/repo-11.3-non-oss
sudo zypper se -s git | grep 'git '
Error building the cache: [|] Repository type can't be determined. i | git | package | 1.7.1-1.14 | x86_64 | openSUSE-11.3 OSS v | git | package | 1.7.1-1.14 | i586 | openSUSE-11.3 OSS | kgit | package | 0.1-0.pm.1.3 | x86_64 | Packman Repository | kgit | package | 0.1-0.pm.1.3 | i586 | Packman Repository | kgit | srcpackage | 0.1-0.pm.1.3 | noarch | Packman Repository v | qgit | package | 2.3-5.1 | x86_64 | openSUSE-11.3 OSS v | qgit | package | 1.5.8-0.pm.1.1 | x86_64 | Packman Repository v | qgit | package | 2.3-5.1 | i586 | openSUSE-11.3 OSS v | qgit | package | 1.5.8-0.pm.1.1 | i586 | Packman Repository i | qgit | package | 2.3-4.8 | x86_64 | (System Packages) | qgit | srcpackage | 1.5.8-0.pm.1.1 | noarch | Packman Repository | stgit | package | 0.14.3-76.2 | noarch | openSUSE-11.3 OSS
==
Not that the zypper search is now only showing git from the main repos and that I have it installed from the x86_64 one.
If you know what I need to know that be great.
Thanks Greg
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 02:14:50PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Cristian Morales Vega cmorve69@yahoo.es wrote:
2010/12/17 Greg Freemyer greg.freemyer@gmail.com:
6 | openSUSE_Tumbleweed | openSUSE:Tumbleweed (openSUSE_11.3) | Yes | Yes
The URL is http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/, no http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/openSUSE_11.3...
(destroy the second path would be a good idea)
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RE: Greg KH's questions
rpm -qa | grep git-core
git-core-1.7.1-1.11.x86_64
rpm -qi git | grep Distribution
Distribution: openSUSE Factory (I don't know why this is Factory)
That's the problem right there, odds are you have installed some things from Factory somehow, so Tumbleweed will not override that. "Downgrade" back to openSUSE:11.3 and all should be good.
sudo zypper install git
Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies...
The following package is going to be upgraded: git
1 package to upgrade. Overall download size: 17.0 KiB. No additional space will be used or freed after the operation. Continue? [y/n/?] (y): Retrieving package git-1.7.1-1.14.x86_64 (1/1), 17.0 KiB (3.0 KiB unpacked) Retrieving: git-1.7.1-1.14.x86_64.rpm [done] Installing: git-1.7.1-1.14 [done] There are some running programs that use files deleted by recent upgrade. You may wish to restart some of them. Run 'zypper ps' to list these programs.
Now look at the distro name above, is it still Factory, or is it Tumbleweed?
If it was going to install from Tumbleweed, it would have not allowed you to 'install' and instead complained about moving to a new repository.
Ah, the joys of mixing repos together, hopefully Tumbleweed will work out so you don't have to do this in the future.
thanks,
greg k-h
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 02:14:50PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
sudo zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/open... tumbleweed
Adding repository 'tumbleweed' [done] Repository 'tumbleweed' successfully added Enabled: Yes Autorefresh: No URI: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/open...
Wait, "Autorefresh: No"? Turn that to yes, and then see if that solves your issue. Odds are you added it before the git package was added to the repo. Anyway, it needs to be set to refresh to get the correct things as stuff changes.
thanks,
greg k-h
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Greg KH gregkh@suse.de wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 02:14:50PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
sudo zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/open... tumbleweed
Adding repository 'tumbleweed' [done] Repository 'tumbleweed' successfully added Enabled: Yes Autorefresh: No URI: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/open...
Wait, "Autorefresh: No"? Turn that to yes, and then see if that solves your issue. Odds are you added it before the git package was added to the repo. Anyway, it needs to be set to refresh to get the correct things as stuff changes.
thanks,
greg k-h
Still something wrong with the tumbleweed repo from my perspective.
I've disabled all my repos except update and tumbleweed. Tumbleweed is set to autorefresh.
sudo zypper lr
root's password: # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh --+-----------------------------+-----------------------------+---------+-------- 1 | KDE:Release:45 | KDE:Release:45 | No | Yes 2 | Main_Repository_(DEBUG) | Main Repository (DEBUG) | No | Yes 3 | Packman_Repository_1 | Packman Repository | No | Yes 4 | openSUSE-11.3_Contrib | openSUSE-11.3 Contrib | No | Yes 5 | openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Extras_45 | openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Extras_45 | No | Yes 6 | repo-11.3-oss | openSUSE-11.3 OSS | No | No 7 | repo-11.3-update | openSUSE-11.3 Updates | Yes | Yes 8 | tumbleweed | tumbleweed | Yes | Yes
Tumbleweed looks fine I think per the detail listing
sudo zypper lr 8
Alias : tumbleweed Name : tumbleweed URI : http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/open... Enabled : Yes Priority : 99 Auto-refresh : On Keep Packages : Off Type : NONE GPG Check : On GPG Key URI : Path Prefix : Parent Service : MD Cache Path : /var/cache/zypp/raw/tumbleweed
Then I tried to remove git altogether:
sudo zypper rm git
Retrieving repository 'tumbleweed' metadata [error] Repository 'tumbleweed' is invalid. [|] Repository type can't be determined. Please check if the URIs defined for this repository are pointing to a valid repository. Warning: Disabling repository 'tumbleweed' because of the above error. Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies...
The following packages are going to be REMOVED: git guilt
2 packages to remove. After the operation, 85.0 KiB will be freed. Continue? [y/n/?] (y): Removing guilt-0.32-4.29 [done] Removing git-1.7.1-1.14 [done]
== Note the error where it says the tumbleweed repo is invalid and is being disabled.
I don't know if its and issue on my machine, or the mirror I'm talking to etc.
Hope this is helping
Thanks Greg
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 04:20:53PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Greg KH gregkh@suse.de wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 02:14:50PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
sudo zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/open... tumbleweed
Adding repository 'tumbleweed' [done] Repository 'tumbleweed' successfully added Enabled: Yes Autorefresh: No URI: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/open...
Wait, "Autorefresh: No"? Turn that to yes, and then see if that solves your issue. Odds are you added it before the git package was added to the repo. Anyway, it needs to be set to refresh to get the correct things as stuff changes.
thanks,
greg k-h
Still something wrong with the tumbleweed repo from my perspective.
I've disabled all my repos except update and tumbleweed. Tumbleweed is set to autorefresh.
sudo zypper lr
root's password: # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh --+-----------------------------+-----------------------------+---------+-------- 1 | KDE:Release:45 | KDE:Release:45 | No | Yes 2 | Main_Repository_(DEBUG) | Main Repository (DEBUG) | No | Yes 3 | Packman_Repository_1 | Packman Repository | No | Yes 4 | openSUSE-11.3_Contrib | openSUSE-11.3 Contrib | No | Yes 5 | openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Extras_45 | openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Extras_45 | No | Yes 6 | repo-11.3-oss | openSUSE-11.3 OSS | No | No 7 | repo-11.3-update | openSUSE-11.3 Updates | Yes | Yes 8 | tumbleweed | tumbleweed | Yes | Yes
Tumbleweed looks fine I think per the detail listing
sudo zypper lr 8
Alias : tumbleweed Name : tumbleweed URI : http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/open... Enabled : Yes Priority : 99 Auto-refresh : On Keep Packages : Off Type : NONE GPG Check : On GPG Key URI : Path Prefix : Parent Service : MD Cache Path : /var/cache/zypp/raw/tumbleweed
Then I tried to remove git altogether:
sudo zypper rm git
Retrieving repository 'tumbleweed' metadata [error] Repository 'tumbleweed' is invalid. [|] Repository type can't be determined. Please check if the URIs defined for this repository are pointing to a valid repository. Warning: Disabling repository 'tumbleweed' because of the above error. Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies...
The following packages are going to be REMOVED: git guilt
2 packages to remove. After the operation, 85.0 KiB will be freed. Continue? [y/n/?] (y): Removing guilt-0.32-4.29 [done] Removing git-1.7.1-1.14 [done]
== Note the error where it says the tumbleweed repo is invalid and is being disabled.
What does the /etc/zypp/repos.d/tumbleweed.repo file contain?
Mine looks like the following: [tumbleweed] name=tumbleweed enabled=1 autorefresh=1 baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/ path=/ type=rpm-md keeppackages=0
thanks,
greg k-h
Greg
For the second time today I've deleted the tumbleweed repo from zypper and re-added it via:
sudo zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/open...
This time is seems to have really worked and suddenly I'm seeing packages in the Tumbleweed repo.
I have no idea why it wasn't working a few hours ago, nor why it did work this time.
Maybe the repo file itself was still mirroring out some key info.
Sorry for the noise, Greg
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 05:02:25PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
Greg
For the second time today I've deleted the tumbleweed repo from zypper and re-added it via:
sudo zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/open...
This time is seems to have really worked and suddenly I'm seeing packages in the Tumbleweed repo.
I have no idea why it wasn't working a few hours ago, nor why it did work this time.
Maybe the repo file itself was still mirroring out some key info.
Sorry for the noise,
No problem, glad it's working now for you. Please let me know if you have any future problems with it.
greg k-h
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Greg KH gregkh@suse.de wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 05:02:25PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
Greg
For the second time today I've deleted the tumbleweed repo from zypper and re-added it via:
sudo zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/open...
This time is seems to have really worked and suddenly I'm seeing packages in the Tumbleweed repo.
I have no idea why it wasn't working a few hours ago, nor why it did work this time.
Maybe the repo file itself was still mirroring out some key info.
Sorry for the noise,
No problem, glad it's working now for you. Please let me know if you have any future problems with it.
greg k-h
Now I'm upgrading to Tumbleweed, but all the packages are giving warnings. Is that expected? (The repo just doesn't feel stable yet to me.)
== eg.
Retrieving package samba-client-32bit-3.5.6-1.3.x86_64 (30/66), 995.0 KiB (3.3 MiB unpacked) Retrieving: samba-client-32bit-3.5.6-1.3.x86_64.rpm [done (218.2 KiB/s)] Installing: samba-client-32bit-3.5.6-1.3 [done] Additional rpm output: warning: /var/cache/zypp/packages/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/x86_64/samba-client-32bit-3.5.6-1.3.x86_64.rpm: Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID a840f92c: NOKEY
==
Greg
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 05:31:31PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Greg KH gregkh@suse.de wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 05:02:25PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
Greg
For the second time today I've deleted the tumbleweed repo from zypper and re-added it via:
sudo zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/open...
This time is seems to have really worked and suddenly I'm seeing packages in the Tumbleweed repo.
I have no idea why it wasn't working a few hours ago, nor why it did work this time.
Maybe the repo file itself was still mirroring out some key info.
Sorry for the noise,
No problem, glad it's working now for you. Please let me know if you have any future problems with it.
greg k-h
Now I'm upgrading to Tumbleweed, but all the packages are giving warnings. Is that expected? (The repo just doesn't feel stable yet to me.)
== eg.
Retrieving package samba-client-32bit-3.5.6-1.3.x86_64 (30/66), 995.0 KiB (3.3 MiB unpacked) Retrieving: samba-client-32bit-3.5.6-1.3.x86_64.rpm [done (218.2 KiB/s)] Installing: samba-client-32bit-3.5.6-1.3 [done] Additional rpm output: warning: /var/cache/zypp/packages/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/x86_64/samba-client-32bit-3.5.6-1.3.x86_64.rpm: Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID a840f92c: NOKEY
Did you accept the Tumbleweed gpg key as valid?
What are you using to upgrade, 'zypper dup'? I've never seen this on my systems here.
odd,
greg k-h
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 05:31:31PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
Now I'm upgrading to Tumbleweed, but all the packages are giving warnings. Is that expected? (The repo just doesn't feel stable yet to me.)
Oh, and of course this isn't "stable" at all yet, it's under constant development, and I might accidentally break things at times. I am using the openSUSE:Tumbleweed:Testing repo for "big" tests (like the zypper one currently in there), but I can't guarantee that Tumbleweed will not cause you problems right now at times.
thanks,
greg k-h
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Greg KH gregkh@suse.de wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 05:31:31PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
Now I'm upgrading to Tumbleweed, but all the packages are giving warnings. Is that expected? (The repo just doesn't feel stable yet to me.)
Oh, and of course this isn't "stable" at all yet, it's under constant development, and I might accidentally break things at times. I am using the openSUSE:Tumbleweed:Testing repo for "big" tests (like the zypper one currently in there), but I can't guarantee that Tumbleweed will not cause you problems right now at times.
thanks,
greg k-h
Greg,
I just tried the Tumbleweed zypper dup process on my laptop. (Previously I was testing with my desktop.)
Zypper ar went fine.
Zypper dup --from still gave warnings.
A sample from today:
Retrieving package git-core-1.7.3.2-5.1.i586 (10/56), 2.2 MiB (10.5 MiB unpacked) Retrieving: git-core-1.7.3.2-5.1.i586.rpm [done (580.5 KiB/s)] Installing: git-core-1.7.3.2-5.1 [done] Additional rpm output: warning: /var/cache/zypp/packages/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/i586/git-core-1.7.3.2-5.1.i586.rpm: Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID a840f92c: NOKEY
I think there is something still configured wrong with the depot, but I don't know how to help/troubleshoot.
=== separate question, when do you think KDE 4.5 (I assume) will get into tumbleweed? I'm not a maintainer of KDE, but the KDE 4.5 repo seems like a natural to add to tumbleweed. ie. oS 11.3 has KDE4.4 and factory has the apparently very unstable 4.6 stuff, so Tumbleweed having the stable 4.5 release seems a perfect use of Tumbleweed.
Thanks Greg
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 04:29:15PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Greg KH gregkh@suse.de wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 05:31:31PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
Now I'm upgrading to Tumbleweed, but all the packages are giving warnings. Is that expected? (The repo just doesn't feel stable yet to me.)
Oh, and of course this isn't "stable" at all yet, it's under constant development, and I might accidentally break things at times. I am using the openSUSE:Tumbleweed:Testing repo for "big" tests (like the zypper one currently in there), but I can't guarantee that Tumbleweed will not cause you problems right now at times.
thanks,
greg k-h
Greg,
I just tried the Tumbleweed zypper dup process on my laptop. (Previously I was testing with my desktop.)
Zypper ar went fine.
Zypper dup --from still gave warnings.
A sample from today:
Retrieving package git-core-1.7.3.2-5.1.i586 (10/56), 2.2 MiB (10.5 MiB unpacked) Retrieving: git-core-1.7.3.2-5.1.i586.rpm [done (580.5 KiB/s)] Installing: git-core-1.7.3.2-5.1 [done] Additional rpm output: warning: /var/cache/zypp/packages/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/i586/git-core-1.7.3.2-5.1.i586.rpm: Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID a840f92c: NOKEY
Odd, have you ever accepted the tumbleweed gpg key? If not, then I guess this could be happening. But I can't reproduce this at all here on any of my test machines, or my main laptop.
I think there is something still configured wrong with the depot, but I don't know how to help/troubleshoot.
=== separate question, when do you think KDE 4.5 (I assume) will get into tumbleweed? I'm not a maintainer of KDE, but the KDE 4.5 repo seems like a natural to add to tumbleweed. ie. oS 11.3 has KDE4.4 and factory has the apparently very unstable 4.6 stuff, so Tumbleweed having the stable 4.5 release seems a perfect use of Tumbleweed.
Yes, that would be nice to have, but at the moment, we are still working out how Tumbleweed really will work. I have a ways to go before adding something "big" like Gnome or KDE major updates. Give me a chance to get something "simple" like a zypper or xml2 library update working properly first :)
thanks,
greg k-h
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Greg KH gregkh@suse.de wrote:
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 04:29:15PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Greg KH gregkh@suse.de wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 05:31:31PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
Now I'm upgrading to Tumbleweed, but all the packages are giving warnings. Is that expected? (The repo just doesn't feel stable yet to me.)
Oh, and of course this isn't "stable" at all yet, it's under constant development, and I might accidentally break things at times. I am using the openSUSE:Tumbleweed:Testing repo for "big" tests (like the zypper one currently in there), but I can't guarantee that Tumbleweed will not cause you problems right now at times.
thanks,
greg k-h
Greg,
I just tried the Tumbleweed zypper dup process on my laptop. (Previously I was testing with my desktop.)
Zypper ar went fine.
Zypper dup --from still gave warnings.
A sample from today:
Retrieving package git-core-1.7.3.2-5.1.i586 (10/56), 2.2 MiB (10.5 MiB unpacked) Retrieving: git-core-1.7.3.2-5.1.i586.rpm [done (580.5 KiB/s)] Installing: git-core-1.7.3.2-5.1 [done] Additional rpm output: warning: /var/cache/zypp/packages/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/i586/git-core-1.7.3.2-5.1.i586.rpm: Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID a840f92c: NOKEY
Odd, have you ever accepted the tumbleweed gpg key? If not, then I guess this could be happening. But I can't reproduce this at all here on any of my test machines, or my main laptop.
I just tried again at the office. And this time no warnings.
fyi: Yes I had accepted the gpg key during my earlier testing.
I still think the repo (meaning mirrors, etc. not the packages within the project) is somewhat unstable for Tumbleweed. I have no idea why that would be.
Greg
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