[opensuse-project] [openFATE] What should we do for the next step ?

Satoru Matsumoto

19 Mar 2009 19 Mar '09

05:17

@openFATE Screening Team We had first team meeting yesterday and I'm very glad the openFATE Screening Team has been launched. Since I am not native English speaker nor good at typing and couldn't say much on the meeting, I'd like to post my opinions to this list. First of all, how about put the tag [openFATE] -- acronym [OF] or [OFS] would be good enough ;-) -- in front of the subject, like I did for this post, when the issue is specialized for openFATE Screening Team, such as an announcement of the next team meeting, etc. This helps preventing unnecessary confusions and listmates can easily know whether the issue is related to whole project or specialized for openFATE Screening Team. [What should we do for the next step ?] During the meeting, I felt we need to do a brainstorming about what we should and can do for openFATE and make things much clear. I think I'm not the only one who don't clearly understand what should be done for now. For example, we talked about setting tags to each features. Do we need some typical keywords for tags, such as installation, update, kernel, etc. ? Team members can freely and randomly set tags when they have time ? At the beginning of the meeting, Bryen asked: Are we still only allowing openSUSE members to enter requests? I'm also wondering why we have to restrict adding new features only to Members. Just because lack of human resources ? As long as I can understand, Members are just kind of contributers who approved by Board, but not delegates in any sense, because they are *not cosen* by other contributers and users. There are many contributers who are *not yet* Members. If they aren't given chances to add new features, IMHO, openFATE is half-openFATE. I'd like to advocate, even mere users should be able to add new features, because that is the first step for them to become contributers. Of cource I don't mean to blame project on that. What I want to say is: if there are some reasons why we have to restrict, we should provide convincing explanations. Finally, should we discuss such things on this list or prepare the Wiki page for that ? Best, -- _/_/ Satoru Matsumoto - openSUSE Member - Japan _/_/ _/_/ Marketing/Weekly News/openFATE Screening Team _/_/ _/_/ mail: helios_reds_at_gmx.net / irc: HeliosReds _/_/ _/_/ http://blog.geeko.jp/author/heliosreds _/_/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

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Satoru Matsumoto

19 Mar 19 Mar

05:29

Sorry, I made a typo. Satoru Matsumoto wrote:

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[...] As long as I can understand, Members are just kind of contributers who approved by Board, but not delegates in any sense, because they are *not cosen* by other contributers and users. [...]

- *not cosen* + *not chosen* Best, -- _/_/ Satoru Matsumoto - openSUSE Member - Japan _/_/ _/_/ Marketing/Weekly News/openFATE Screening Team _/_/ _/_/ mail: helios_reds_at_gmx.net / irc: HeliosReds _/_/ _/_/ http://blog.geeko.jp/author/heliosreds _/_/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

Rajko M.

13:57

On Thursday 19 March 2009 12:17:27 am Satoru Matsumoto wrote: ...

...

During the meeting, I felt we need to do a brainstorming about what we should and can do for openFATE and make things much clear. I think I'm not the only one who don't clearly understand what should be done for now.

I guess, give ideas: - how to organize screening, - how to improve interface For instance where are new entered features? They need attention (screening) first. Browse is not word that describes what I see on next screen. It see advanced search. Removing all but tag New, I hit first problem in the very first feature https://features.opensuse.org/100285 . Full description is in http://bugzilla.suse.de/show_bug.cgi?id=46604 which has no redirect to Novell bugzilla bug number. Second, Unconfirmed for new feature and New for screened can be common tag in bugzilla, but it is far from self explanatory. For me it would be better that New is new entered, Screened for feature that someone of screening team have seen, asked requester for additional explanation if necessary, and it is ready for responsible person in development team to read and consider for acceptance, or rejection. Features can't be Unconfirmed, they are not bugs. Local definition of words, that deflects from standard one in vocabulary, is common practice in programming, where for sake of brevity, or distinction from object with similar names, no one should expect strict grammar and word interpretation. That way should not be used in public interface where non-coders should understand messages. The other problem that I hit some days ago was that I couldn't convince search to give me feature that I was looking at. None of words in title or description gave that feature as result.

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For example, we talked about setting tags to each features. Do we need some typical keywords for tags, such as installation, update, kernel, etc. ? Team members can freely and randomly set tags when they have time ?

There are some tags when you come to the main openFATE page. It would be nice to know how method that selects and prints tags on main page works.

...

At the beginning of the meeting, Bryen asked: Are we still only allowing openSUSE members to enter requests?

I'm also wondering why we have to restrict adding new features only to Members. Just because lack of human resources ? As long as I can understand, Members are just kind of contributers who approved by Board, but not delegates in any sense, because they are *not cosen* by other contributers and users. There are many contributers who are *not yet* Members. If they aren't given chances to add new features, IMHO, openFATE is half-openFATE. I'd like to advocate, even mere users should be able to add new features, because that is the first step for them to become contributers. Of cource I don't mean to blame project on that. What I want to say is: if there are some reasons why we have to restrict, we should provide convincing explanations.

IMHO, as long as interface is bugzilla like, where inexperienced requesters can enter many duplicate features and they can't be merged to the first one and deleted, making browsing nightmare, creating new features should be restricted. Although, being confirmed openSUSE member is, for sure, not guarantee that someone has skills to handle bugzilla, or openFATE interface.

...

Finally, should we discuss such things on this list or prepare the Wiki page for that ?

IMHO, for now I would keep discussion here, to see what to put on the wiki. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

Thomas Schmidt

17:09

Rajko M. schrieb:

...

On Thursday 19 March 2009 12:17:27 am Satoru Matsumoto wrote: ...

...
During the meeting, I felt we need to do a brainstorming about what we should and can do for openFATE and make things much clear. I think I'm not the only one who don't clearly understand what should be done for now.

I guess, give ideas: - how to organize screening, - how to improve interface

[...]

...

The other problem that I hit some days ago was that I couldn't convince search to give me feature that I was looking at. None of words in title or description gave that feature as result.

The quicksearch field searches only in open features by default. Greetings -- Thomas Schmidt (tschmidt [at] suse.de) SUSE Linux Products GmbH :: Research & Development :: Tools "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

Rémy Marquis

22 Mar 22 Mar

00:24

New subject: [opensuse-project] [openFATE] What should we do for the next step ?

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Thomas Schmidt wrote:

...

Rajko M. schrieb:

...
On Thursday 19 March 2009 12:17:27 am Satoru Matsumoto wrote: ...

...
During the meeting, I felt we need to do a brainstorming about what we should and can do for openFATE and make things much clear. I think I'm not the only one who don't clearly understand what should be done for now.

I guess, give ideas: - how to organize screening, - how to improve interface

[...]

...
The other problem that I hit some days ago was that I couldn't convince search to give me feature that I was looking at. None of words in title or description gave that feature as result.

The quicksearch field searches only in open features by default.

Greetings

-- Thomas Schmidt (tschmidt [at] suse.de) SUSE Linux Products GmbH :: Research & Development :: Tools "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

Hi, Thx to murphy's law, my internet connexion died the day just before the meeting. Is there any transcript of the meeting available ? I wasn't able to find any on the wiki. Thx in advance, R. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

Michael Loeffler

23 Mar 23 Mar

14:34

New subject: [opensuse-project] [openFATE] What should we do for the next step ?

On Sunday 22 March 2009, Rémy Marquis wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Thomas Schmidt  
wrote:
> > Rajko M. schrieb:
> >> On Thursday 19 March 2009 12:17:27 am Satoru Matsumoto wrote:
> >> ...
> >>
> >>> During the meeting, I felt we need to do a brainstorming about
> >>> what we should and can do for openFATE and make things much
> >>> clear.  I think I'm not the only one who don't clearly
> >>> understand what should be done for now.
> >>
> >> I guess, give ideas:
> >> - how to organize screening,
> >> - how to improve interface
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >> The other problem that I hit some days ago was that I couldn't
> >> convince search to give me feature that I was looking at. None
> >> of words in title or description gave that feature as result.
> >
> > The quicksearch field searches only in open features by default.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > --
> > Thomas Schmidt (tschmidt [at] suse.de)
> > SUSE Linux Products GmbH :: Research & Development :: Tools
> > "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (1952 - 11.05.2001)
> > --
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
>
> Hi,
>
> Thx to murphy's law, my internet connexion died the day just before
> the meeting. Is there any transcript of the meeting available ? I
> wasn't able to find any on the wiki.
In short:
- We had some discussion about the tasks of the feature team. And I 
edited our page, http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFate_screening_team 
accordingly. 
- we discussed about the defintion of a feature and how to get it into 
openFate. I got the AI to check Fedora's and Ubuntu guide lines. As 
above I edited the wiki http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFATE/Documentation
Note: after short discussion with Digitaltomm we retired the 
Documentation in openFate itself and link now to a.m. docu page and 
FAQ page, http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFATE/Faq. So everybody can edit 
the documentation where necessary. 
- wrt Tags we agreed that the screening team should browse features 
and add tags where necessary
- we agreed on having by weekly meetings, always the weeks without 
project meeting, so next meeting will be on April 1st

Best
M

>
> Thx in advance,
>
> R.



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Alberto Passalacqua

16:01

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Hi,

why this limitation on new proposals?

[quote from http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFATE/Faq]
Can I enter new feature requests? New feature requests can be entered by
openSUSE members only. Please see http://en.opensuse.org/Members for
more information on openSUSE membership. You can, however, still edit
existing features, e.g. add a comment and so on.
[/quote]

Users used to be able to submit enhancement requests with a simple
bugzilla account. The membership requirement seems to add another layer
of selection, which seems unnecessary to me.

Regards,
A.

Il giorno lun, 23/03/2009 alle 15.34 +0100, Michael Loeffler ha scritto:
> On Sunday 22 March 2009, Rémy Marquis wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Thomas Schmidt  
> wrote:
> > > Rajko M. schrieb:
> > >> On Thursday 19 March 2009 12:17:27 am Satoru Matsumoto wrote:
> > >> ...
> > >>
> > >>> During the meeting, I felt we need to do a brainstorming about
> > >>> what we should and can do for openFATE and make things much
> > >>> clear.  I think I'm not the only one who don't clearly
> > >>> understand what should be done for now.
> > >>
> > >> I guess, give ideas:
> > >> - how to organize screening,
> > >> - how to improve interface
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > >> The other problem that I hit some days ago was that I couldn't
> > >> convince search to give me feature that I was looking at. None
> > >> of words in title or description gave that feature as result.
> > >
> > > The quicksearch field searches only in open features by default.
> > >
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thomas Schmidt (tschmidt [at] suse.de)
> > > SUSE Linux Products GmbH :: Research & Development :: Tools
> > > "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (1952 - 11.05.2001)
> > > --
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thx to murphy's law, my internet connexion died the day just before
> > the meeting. Is there any transcript of the meeting available ? I
> > wasn't able to find any on the wiki.
> In short:
> - We had some discussion about the tasks of the feature team. And I 
> edited our page, http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFate_screening_team 
> accordingly. 
> - we discussed about the defintion of a feature and how to get it into 
> openFate. I got the AI to check Fedora's and Ubuntu guide lines. As 
> above I edited the wiki http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFATE/Documentation
> Note: after short discussion with Digitaltomm we retired the 
> Documentation in openFate itself and link now to a.m. docu page and 
> FAQ page, http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFATE/Faq. So everybody can edit 
> the documentation where necessary. 
> - wrt Tags we agreed that the screening team should browse features 
> and add tags where necessary
> - we agreed on having by weekly meetings, always the weeks without 
> project meeting, so next meeting will be on April 1st
> 
> Best
> M
> 
> >
> > Thx in advance,
> >
> > R.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Michael Löffler, Product Management
> Email: michl@suse.de
> Phone:	+49 911 74053-376
> SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: 
> Markus Rex
> 

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Thomas Schmidt

17:10

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Alberto Passalacqua schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> why this limitation on new proposals?
> 
> [quote from http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFATE/Faq]
> Can I enter new feature requests? New feature requests can be entered by
> openSUSE members only. Please see http://en.opensuse.org/Members for
> more information on openSUSE membership. You can, however, still edit
> existing features, e.g. add a comment and so on.
> [/quote]
> 
> Users used to be able to submit enhancement requests with a simple
> bugzilla account. The membership requirement seems to add another layer
> of selection, which seems unnecessary to me.

I think we can open this to more people when the feature screening team
is set up, and has the capacity to deal with a larger amount of features.
In the current state I think it would only cause frustration to the submitters
when their feature does not get any attention.

Greetings


> 
> Regards,
> A.
> 
> Il giorno lun, 23/03/2009 alle 15.34 +0100, Michael Loeffler ha scritto:
>> On Sunday 22 March 2009, Rémy Marquis wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Thomas Schmidt  
>> wrote:
>>>> Rajko M. schrieb:
>>>>> On Thursday 19 March 2009 12:17:27 am Satoru Matsumoto wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> During the meeting, I felt we need to do a brainstorming about
>>>>>> what we should and can do for openFATE and make things much
>>>>>> clear.  I think I'm not the only one who don't clearly
>>>>>> understand what should be done for now.
>>>>> I guess, give ideas:
>>>>> - how to organize screening,
>>>>> - how to improve interface
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>> The other problem that I hit some days ago was that I couldn't
>>>>> convince search to give me feature that I was looking at. None
>>>>> of words in title or description gave that feature as result.
>>>> The quicksearch field searches only in open features by default.
>>>>
>>>> Greetings
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thomas Schmidt (tschmidt [at] suse.de)
>>>> SUSE Linux Products GmbH :: Research & Development :: Tools
>>>> "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (1952 - 11.05.2001)
>>>> --
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>>>> opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thx to murphy's law, my internet connexion died the day just before
>>> the meeting. Is there any transcript of the meeting available ? I
>>> wasn't able to find any on the wiki.
>> In short:
>> - We had some discussion about the tasks of the feature team. And I 
>> edited our page, http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFate_screening_team 
>> accordingly. 
>> - we discussed about the defintion of a feature and how to get it into 
>> openFate. I got the AI to check Fedora's and Ubuntu guide lines. As 
>> above I edited the wiki http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFATE/Documentation
>> Note: after short discussion with Digitaltomm we retired the 
>> Documentation in openFate itself and link now to a.m. docu page and 
>> FAQ page, http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFATE/Faq. So everybody can edit 
>> the documentation where necessary. 
>> - wrt Tags we agreed that the screening team should browse features 
>> and add tags where necessary
>> - we agreed on having by weekly meetings, always the weeks without 
>> project meeting, so next meeting will be on April 1st
>>
>> Best
>> M
>>
>>> Thx in advance,
>>>
>>> R.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Michael Löffler, Product Management
>> Email: michl@suse.de
>> Phone:	+49 911 74053-376
>> SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: 
>> Markus Rex
>>
> 


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Alberto Passalacqua

18:29

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Il giorno lun, 23/03/2009 alle 18.10 +0100, Thomas Schmidt ha scritto:

...

I think we can open this to more people when the feature screening team is set up, and has the capacity to deal with a larger amount of features. In the current state I think it would only cause frustration to the submitters when their feature does not get any attention.

Greetings

That's OK as long as it will be opened as soon as the team is built, or it will appears as another form of unnecessary a priori selection imho. Btw, submitters will be frustrated mainly by the crazy confusion generated by the split of tools used to track bugs/enhancements and features, because the difference can't be really clarified with a definition, and it will be subject to intepretation, as usual. P.S. Not being (voluntarly) a member, I won't submit feature requests. But maybe that's a result ;-) Regards, A. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

Michael Loeffler

17:17

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Hi, On Monday 23 March 2009, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:

...

Hi,

why this limitation on new proposals? Pretty simple - better start with limitation than get overwhelmed by requests. We don't have the bandwith to evaluate too many features at once. The openSUSE screening team [1] is building up currently. Additional we think the lmitation to openSUSE members might add/offer some quality assurance.

Best Michael [1] http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFate_screening_team

...

[quote from http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFATE/Faq] Can I enter new feature requests? New feature requests can be entered by openSUSE members only. Please see http://en.opensuse.org/Members for more information on openSUSE membership. You can, however, still edit existing features, e.g. add a comment and so on. [/quote]

Users used to be able to submit enhancement requests with a simple bugzilla account. The membership requirement seems to add another layer of selection, which seems unnecessary to me.

Regards, A.

Il giorno lun, 23/03/2009 alle 15.34 +0100, Michael Loeffler ha

scritto:

...

...
On Sunday 22 March 2009, Rémy Marquis wrote:

...
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Thomas Schmidt

wrote:

...
...
Rajko M. schrieb:

...
On Thursday 19 March 2009 12:17:27 am Satoru Matsumoto wrote: ...

...
During the meeting, I felt we need to do a brainstorming about what we should and can do for openFATE and make things much clear. I think I'm not the only one who don't clearly understand what should be done for now.

I guess, give ideas: - how to organize screening, - how to improve interface

[...]

...
The other problem that I hit some days ago was that I couldn't convince search to give me feature that I was looking at. None of words in title or description gave that feature as result.

The quicksearch field searches only in open features by default.

Greetings

-- Thomas Schmidt (tschmidt [at] suse.de) SUSE Linux Products GmbH :: Research & Development :: Tools "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

Hi,

Thx to murphy's law, my internet connexion died the day just before the meeting. Is there any transcript of the meeting available ? I wasn't able to find any on the wiki.

In short: - We had some discussion about the tasks of the feature team. And I edited our page, http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFate_screening_team accordingly. - we discussed about the defintion of a feature and how to get it into openFate. I got the AI to check Fedora's and Ubuntu guide lines. As above I edited the wiki http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFATE/Documentation Note: after short discussion with Digitaltomm we retired the Documentation in openFate itself and link now to a.m. docu page and FAQ page, http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFATE/Faq. So everybody can edit the documentation where necessary. - wrt Tags we agreed that the screening team should browse features and add tags where necessary - we agreed on having by weekly meetings, always the weeks without project meeting, so next meeting will be on April 1st

Best M

...
Thx in advance,

R.

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Alberto Passalacqua

18:33

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Il giorno lun, 23/03/2009 alle 18.17 +0100, Michael Loeffler ha scritto:

...

Pretty simple - better start with limitation than get overwhelmed by requests. We don't have the bandwith to evaluate too many features at once. The openSUSE screening team [1] is building up currently.

See my other reply on this.

...

Additional we think the lmitation to openSUSE members might add/offer some quality assurance.

Well, I don't agree. The QA is not done selecting on people, but selecting proposals. So, if this might be a starting point because the screening team is building, it's surely not ideal for the community of an _open_ project, especially when this project has some problem already to appear as really open, even if we try not to see it. Regards, A. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier

18:40

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On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:

...

...
Additional we think the lmitation to openSUSE members might add/offer some quality assurance.

Well, I don't agree. The QA is not done selecting on people, but selecting proposals. So, if this might be a starting point because the screening team is building, it's surely not ideal for the community of an _open_ project, especially when this project has some problem already to appear as really open, even if we try not to see it.

I think the point is, we have a limited number of members and therefore a limited number of proposals coming from them. On the other hand - accepting proposals from everybody would mean we'd be getting a lot more proposals. That's not to say non-members wouldn't provide good proposals - but that limiting the submitting body to ~300 people is more manageable than opening submissions to anyone who signs up for an iChain account. Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier openSUSE Community Manager: http://zonker.opensuse.org Blogs: http://blogs.zdnet.com/community | http://www.dissociatedpress.net Twitter: jzb | Identica: jzb http://identi.ca/group/opensuse/members -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

Alberto Passalacqua

19:28

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Il giorno lun, 23/03/2009 alle 14.40 -0400, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier ha scritto:

...

I think the point is, we have a limited number of members and therefore a limited number of proposals coming from them.

On the other hand - accepting proposals from everybody would mean we'd be getting a lot more proposals. That's not to say non-members wouldn't provide good proposals - but that limiting the submitting body to ~300 people is more manageable than opening submissions to anyone who signs up for an iChain account.

Why not a limitation on the number of proposals per user, like, for example each user can make one proposal every release cycle or every six months? This would actually force the user to exercise a choice and some sort of "internal QA" on the proposal. I'm not sure the software can do this though. Regards, A. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

Rajko M.

19:08

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On Monday 23 March 2009 09:34:35 am Michael Loeffler wrote: ...

...

In short: - We had some discussion about the tasks of the feature team. And I edited our page, http://en.opensuse.org/OpenFate_screening_team accordingly.

I would change word Unconfirmed to Received. Bug can be "not confirmed", but for feature the single word describing status, that come in mind, would be received, or entered. It is change that would avoid use of geek talk in areas of average computer user interest. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org

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Alberto Passalacqua
Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
Michael Loeffler
Rajko M.
Rémy Marquis
Satoru Matsumoto
Thomas Schmidt