Ok. I'm just going to get this out of the way now that I have installed Milestone 8. http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=11243 I am sick, utterly sick and tired of having to install the SAMBA packages and then punch a hole through the firewall with the Samba Server config tool in YAST2 just to make smbclient and network browsing on the desktop function. openSUSE has been doing this as default behavior for the last several releases. Yes, I know how to fix it. All of us who are power users know how to fix it. But your average end-user has no clue on how to fix this. Many of them will simply say, "Crap, I can't get my network functioning. Maybe Ubuntu wont be broken" Ubuntu, who is openSUSE's prime competition, has functioning SMB networking by default. http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=11218 Can we please, please, pretty please, make SAMBA installed by default with the appropriate firewall rules applied as default behavior? One thing we might want to consider for future openSUSE releases is something like that "Role-based" configuration GUI that Windows Server 2008 R2 has, that automatically configures a set of services based on the way the system is going to be used. http://content.zdnet.com/2347-17924_22-293601-293615.html?seq=12 This could also be done during installation, where the installer would give a choice of "Workstation / Developer Workstation / File Server / Web Server" and the choice would apply the right set of packages and firewall settings. By default, all of the Live CD versions should have SMB networking out of the box functioning. -- Jason Perlow jperlow@gmail.com (201)735-5838 Twitter: http://twitter.com/jperlow Technology Columnist, ZDNet Tech Broiler (http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow) Blogger/Podcaster, Off The Broiler (http://www.offthebroiler.com) LinkedIn Public Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonperlow -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org