Felix Miata - 22:40 5.12.16 wrote:

Michal Hrusecky composed on 2016-12-05 22:58 (UTC+0100):

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quite some time ago I started working on process to retire openSUSE Members that are no longer active.

Not sure what "active" is or was supposed to mean, but I've certainly been active on mailing lists and BOO, if not the Wiki. So I don't know why I'd have gotten an email about https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/profile/mrmazda inactivity. Maybe because I never bothered to configure usage of my @opensuse.org email addresses?

It scans mailing lists, which includes opensuse-bugs and opensuse-commit - so it should be able to track activity even in bugzilla and commits to factory. But yes, I noticed that there is some bug and although it looked working during testing, seems like in real test it failed :-(

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I sent out few initial mails, but then process stalled for some time. I finally believe that I fixed everything and I'm ready to make it happen. But even though I run several tests and everything seems fine there is still possibility that there are some bugs. So if you receive unjustified threatening mail, don't worry about it and let me know.

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Brief recap, as discussed previously, it will move people who haven't been active for more than six months and haven't responded to any of the reminder e-mails to different group - openSUSE Members Emeritus. Those people will be notified vie their e-mail. If they want to keep membership, all they have to do is to respond to that mail, and they will be reinstated automatically after a short while. Currently this interval may be even more than a day as I'm running it manually to have thing a little bit more under control. Later on, after some more testing, reaction time will be reduced and whole thing will be let run unattended.

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So this is mainly intended as a heads-up in case something goes wrong, but hopefully, nothing will.

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2016-12-06 9:59 GMT+01:00 Richard Brown :

On 6 December 2016 at 08:13, Michal Hrusecky wrote:

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Michal Hrusecky - 22:58 5.12.16 wrote:

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So this is mainly intended as a heads-up in case something goes wrong, but hopefully, nothing will.

So something went wrong after all. I'm terribly sorry for all the unjustified mails my bot sent. I'll move everybody back and investigate what went wrong despite all the testing.

Well done...your bot even managed to flag me.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

At least, you being flagged proves that the whole "identify the inactive users" system is not at all ready. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

06.12.2016 10:13, Michal Hrusecky пишет:

Michal Hrusecky - 22:58 5.12.16 wrote:

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So this is mainly intended as a heads-up in case something goes wrong, but hopefully, nothing will.

So something went wrong after all. I'm terribly sorry for all the unjustified mails my bot sent. I'll move everybody back and investigate what went wrong despite all the testing.

I suppose that your bot doesn't hangle GMane (NNTP-maillist gateway) users (like me) well. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

Am 06.12.2016 um 11:53 schrieb Christian Boltz:

As you have hopefully read at news.o.o, the openSUSE Heroes had a meeting in Nuremberg last weekend, and the spam on the member mail addresses was also a topic we discussed (I received a spam mail during the meeting and instantly put it on the agenda ;-)

huh, it seems I'm really too busy nowadays. I never heard about "heroes" before. Someone has a pointer what the special group is about? Thanks, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

After one whole year as member of the opensuse project, i still haven't figured out how to be able to send mails with my opensuse alias mail and how to be able to be seen as member in irc! I just got my inactivity mail and don't know how to respond! 2016-12-06 13:14 GMT+02:00 Richard Brown :

On 6 December 2016 at 12:12, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

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Am 06.12.2016 um 11:53 schrieb Christian Boltz:

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As you have hopefully read at news.o.o, the openSUSE Heroes had a meeting in Nuremberg last weekend, and the spam on the member mail addresses was also a topic we discussed (I received a spam mail during the meeting and instantly put it on the agenda ;-)

huh, it seems I'm really too busy nowadays. I never heard about "heroes" before. Someone has a pointer what the special group is about?

https://news.opensuse.org/2016/07/25/introducing-opensuse-heroes/

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Nick Mantas wrote:

After one whole year as member of the opensuse project, i still haven't figured out how to be able to send mails with my opensuse alias mail

Just add as an identity to your regular email account. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (4.4°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

On 2016-12-06 16:29, Per Jessen wrote:

Nick Mantas wrote:

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After one whole year as member of the opensuse project, i still haven't figured out how to be able to send mails with my opensuse alias mail

Just add as an identity to your regular email account.

Depends on the ISP. Mine, for instance, does not allow what you propose. I can only send with the address provided by the ISP and there is no procedure to add any other. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 2016-12-07 09:45, Per Jessen wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2016-12-06 16:29, Per Jessen wrote:

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Depends on the ISP. Mine, for instance, does not allow what you propose. I can only send with the address provided by the ISP and there is no procedure to add any other.

Even if Telefonica restricts the envelope address (a strict but not unreasonable anti-spam measure), you should be able to change the From: address.

Try this script:

http://files.jessen.ch/carlostest

just run it with 'sh carlostest'. I would be surprised if Telefonica will reject it based on content of the From: header.

It went through, I'm surprised. <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:21 Telcontar postfix 4779 - - 49119120AE1: uid=1000 from=<_ME_@telefonica.net> <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:21 Telcontar postfix 6785 - - 49119120AE1: message-id=<20161207143221.49119120AE1@Telcontar.valinor> <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:21 Telcontar postfix 3747 - - 49119120AE1: from=<_ME_@telefonica.net>, size=366, nrcpt=1 (queue active) <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:21 Telcontar amavis 11499 - - (11499-20) LMTP:[127.0.0.1]:10024 /var/spool/amavis/tmp/amavis-20161207T043521-11499-IJOjyb7H: <_ME_@telefonica.net> -> <_YOU_@opensuse.org> SIZE=366 Received: from Telcontar.valinor ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Telcontar.valinor [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP for <_YOU_@opensuse.org>; Wed, 7 Dec 2016 15:32:21 +0100 (CET) <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:21 Telcontar amavis 11499 - - (11499-20) Checking: du7ecTV7vAtp <_ME_@telefonica.net> -> <_YOU_@opensuse.org> <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:21 Telcontar amavis 11499 - - (11499-20) Open relay? Nonlocal recips but not originating: _YOU_@opensuse.org <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:21 Telcontar postfix 6793 - - connect from localhost[127.0.0.1] <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:21 Telcontar postfix 6793 - - 9607F120AE0: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:21 Telcontar postfix 6785 - - 9607F120AE0: message-id=<20161207143221.49119120AE1@Telcontar.valinor> <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:21 Telcontar postfix 6793 - - disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:21 Telcontar postfix 3747 - - 9607F120AE0: from=<_ME_@telefonica.net>, size=793, nrcpt=1 (queue active) <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:21 Telcontar amavis 11499 - - (11499-20) FWD from <_ME_@telefonica.net> -> <_YOU_@opensuse.org>,BODY=7BIT 250 2.0.0 from MTA(smtp:[127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 9607F120AE0 <2.5> 2016-12-07 15:32:21 Telcontar amavis 11499 - - (11499-20) Passed CLEAN {RelayedOpenRelay}, <_ME_@telefonica.net> -> <_YOU_@opensuse.org>, Message-ID: <20161207143221.49119120AE1@Telcontar.valinor>, mail_id: du7ecTV7vAtp, Hits: -, size: 366, queued_as: 9607F120AE0, 255 ms <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:21 Telcontar postfix 6789 - - 49119120AE1: to=<_YOU_@opensuse.org>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=0.47, delays=0.18/0.03/0.09/0.17, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 from MTA(smtp:[127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 9607F120AE0) <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:21 Telcontar postfix 3747 - - 49119120AE1: removed <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:22 Telcontar postfix 6795 - - Untrusted TLS connection established to smtp.telefonica.net[86.109.99.70]:25: TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits) <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:22 Telcontar postfix 6795 - - 9607F120AE0: to=<_YOU_@opensuse.org>, relay=smtp.telefonica.net[86.109.99.70]:25, delay=1, delays=0.04/0.29/0.56/0.11, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 <57A52DD40649FDB5> Mail accepted) <2.6> 2016-12-07 15:32:22 Telcontar postfix 3747 - - 9607F120AE0: removed Well, my opensuse alias is not in the logs, that's whey it passed. So, it is using my ISP "from" in the envelope, but the "from" header is my alias. Not something you can do on the MUA... My trick is to send via another /ISP/, gmail. Gmail has an automatic form you can fill to authorize an account with them to send for another address. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 2016-12-07 16:17, Per Jessen wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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It went through, I'm surprised.

[snip]

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Well, my opensuse alias is not in the logs, that's whey it passed. So, it is using my ISP "from" in the envelope, but the "from" header is my alias. Not something you can do on the MUA...

Yeah, I guess most MUAs will use the same address in the envelope and in the header. You could do it with some magic in a local MTA.

I think tricks for doing that were posted years ago on the old suse mail lists, because the list server checked the envelope address only.

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My trick is to send via another /ISP/, gmail. Gmail has an automatic form you can fill to authorize an account with them to send for another address.

Ah, problem solved.

Yes, of course. My intention was solely to remind those with a fine mail provider that not every provider works that way. None of the different mail providers I have tried in Spain allows sending with a different "From". I have to use an American mail provider. Sorry for the confusion. This has caused me many problems in the past, because Postfix did not support the situation. There was one relay host and that's it. Now, there is a configuration in postfix that tells which smtp server to use for each different from, and what password to use in each case. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 12/06/2016 10:13 AM, Nick Mantas wrote:

After one whole year as member of the opensuse project, i still haven't figured out how to be able to send mails with my opensuse alias mail and how to be able to be seen as member in irc! I just got my inactivity mail and don't know how to respond!

Well given that the mail was sent in error, based on responses by others in this thread I don't think there is anything to wrry about just yet. If there is anything to worry about at all. For what it's worth I simply replied the message I received to the sender, the bot I presume. On the use of @opensuse.org it sound like that making it a real mail service hosted by Heinlein is getting closer to implementation then all your problems with the forwarding service go away ;) Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU Public Cloud Architect LINUX rjschwei@suse.com IRC: robjo

On 12/07/2016 07:09 AM, Jan Ritzerfeld wrote:

Am Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2016, 11:53:11 schrieb Christian Boltz:

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Anyhow, I still do not know how to set multiple email addresses in connect. Or I cannot find it, too.

Gruß Jan

There should be a empty field under your first email, add a second one there press apply or save or whatever then the next time you edit your profile there will be a extra empty box for another address. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adeliade Australia, UTC+9:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B

Am Mittwoch, 7. Dezember 2016, 11:29:22 schrieb Simon Lees:

[...] There should be a empty field under your first email,

Ah, I never set up any email address there.

add a second one there press apply or save or whatever then the next time you edit your profile there will be a extra empty box for another address.

Yes, indeed. Many thanks, Jan -- If you don't care where you are, then you ain't lost. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org