On 21.01.2017 8:57, Martin Pluskal wrote:

Hello

It is my pleasure to announce that voting for openSUSE board [0] has begun [2] - so please don't forget to cast your vote at:

http://bit.ly/2jYi5xt [1]

Voting will last until 2017-02-01 and on 2017-02-02 results will be announced, you can cast three votes Correction, two votes.

Happy voting Martin

Le 21/01/2017 à 09:17, Martin Pluskal a écrit :

Correction, two votes.

Happy voting

Martin

I see you remove the initial poll. There where already 7 votes, so people that voted already cast again your vote :-) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

Am Samstag, 21. Januar 2017, 09:26:57 CET schrieb Martin Pluskal:

Due to technical difficulties, new poll had to be created: http://bit.ly/2iVTS9E [1]

https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/pluskalm/52970/opensuse-board-ele ction-20162017

If you have already voted in previous one please accept my aplogy and vote again

If you are just in a voting rush...FOSS Force is looking for the 'best' Linux Distro - however this may be defined: http://fossforce.com/2017/01/best-linux-distro-time/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 09:21:51 +0100, jdd wrote:

Le 21/01/2017 à 08:57, Martin Pluskal a écrit :

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Hello

It is my pleasure to announce that voting for openSUSE board [0] has begun [2] - so please don't forget to cast your vote at:

http://bit.ly/2jYi5xt [1]

done, but I noticed each line of the poll is doubled (two copies of each line)

It seems this poll has problems as well - I noticed that Aaron Luna is listed 4 times, Sarah is listed 3, and the others are listed once. I'd like some clarification as to why this is (or ask that the poll be recreated again with each candidate listed once) so it's really clear who's getting the votes and easy to evaluate the results when it's over. -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On Sun, 2017-01-22 at 13:48 +0100, Martin Schlander wrote:

lørdag den 21. januar 2017 09.26.57 CET skrev Martin Pluskal:

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Due to technical difficulties, new poll had to be created: http://bit.ly/2iVTS9E [1]

https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/pluskalm/52970/opensuse- board-ele ction-20162017

If you have already voted in previous one please accept my aplogy and vote again

The links to Andrew Wafaa's 'announcement' and 'platform' seem to be wrong.  They link to the poll itself. Hello

They are not wrong, just not filled - announcement was sent to non- public mailing list and platform is yet to be filled. Cheers Martin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEwQnJ+Ps8HqIKhK3yWyRdZ/3eaFcFAliFtVUACgkQWyRdZ/3e aFed8RAAmAXlpsc2m9GqH6oLeDI9sWRykuC0CFDyGuvrdT/ZnnsWX5ot34+dGrIq VM+tWE8wR/PoD/fvnrreGkyGoeHptBs68okSP8A6AUMDAWqTETxOBx6TL081AoSC 0Ova0sAR48a1o1J3lgmz67BpMDwHbwDth5OhIPWRemgO1AB+FW2k2KdqCZN22Jx2 T62R3n4hi+W0GAdHUFS0lGxU7WII32fRU0uqLFb06i3b54bIpEKep3jf5OAftIpp ZhyK5vDLbacYJsc39Ni9mJiMB8CFIF2wA5wkNH02bRKYRt2J0UGXzCFemaxDOLIU g5rPdAo+Fj5LSwoS7M5qCoesvewiGg1RzVZRA7M2TcStf94IU8P1a7FTgpM0mzbN 27TU5A0nT+M3xM8AO5ZDfwI2s/8YECRlFYiybywwQu1q0Pgv5H/zzZj8KY9VPVs/ zuDysjVjKnEMZIdzzQabxDcEKt4L/Zd+0iMPpoFULRXtE81kW1EsARXfDnchDl8k Hi5cR1uFAki7YMfMQUQEk6b1P+QEIpQioNVknkOVbGcj/AwQ/KzH8+9f1NJZWWsM kj/2738seGNwpPjApLfuzIn2QypwAQxgC+iznDCEFLB2tsENL8GLnyJNKbE1kSiu buZc7IojcnQWpfcp/Vr9iRznsh23nNcQXKXt7mQK1f7sWzt5ZuE= =BAg4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On Sun, 2017-01-22 at 20:59 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 09:21:51 +0100, jdd wrote:

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Le 21/01/2017 à 08:57, Martin Pluskal a écrit :

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Hello

It is my pleasure to announce that voting for openSUSE board [0] has begun [2]  - so please don't forget to cast your vote at:

http://bit.ly/2jYi5xt [1]

done, but I noticed each line of the poll is doubled (two copies of each line)

It seems this poll has problems as well - I noticed that Aaron Luna is  listed 4 times, Sarah is listed 3, and the others are listed once.

I'd like some clarification as to why this is (or ask that the poll be  recreated again with each candidate listed once) so it's really clear  who's getting the votes and easy to evaluate the results when it's over.

Hello Issue is being investigated (although it seems to be random), thanks for bringing this topic to our attention. Cheers Martin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEwQnJ+Ps8HqIKhK3yWyRdZ/3eaFcFAliFtksACgkQWyRdZ/3e aFdI5A/+OtjKCxjrdau8JpB0nWMUAFr2QVP1wlB/FoZ6VAPggh2b4iqdloUUL3if a8z807DIYzxGeB/EF6sYUPSQeRDETfNdmO8KfvHjtZ7jAiMs0rTaHPY4SEnpDJe1 89QjjZ29lxGO8f8EjWkHfMAplkfaEyyJsgK2lDvhDtVlgqmiFYKgfPxlEhOzmt4N wKu6ypJFTisBJ7MWAUXTRlfPGQSAOeV0U7oEwqr1AMclKBVrlCT9GP/EjdiBW0Xm NRaGodjZgNgG1TLcCf54hPjLczeHJtAvTPGIO9QiIyLzRzUYMX86iOhcck3KM21P 7NYSmst0FgwYyGnvV1m1X1CDFzneGlii9Ypf7LLAe+2eb5d9vzr0pajrnb6TRqAC AdNTXQbnWQ/MWdbdqRW/azvrA54SQ33y8MmsK6aIfNvYq9SOi91lFTnlvCqRP1jD SFGcXYiCUFY2cfbJTIrwZJwjFwfP/AvSpNt5UL34uSa/kfKceQpdfCOk881Qivpd ziQ/S1OHOU/dpRP6MhbXlsTY8lrhvgY4eA/ApSqfoDtGfTj5SQx/gJTxewnw2ETK xtuZ8k8wIU6m46T9QDpOpMbv/dDejUjc7coi8vvvuhtG0KRfBZmVTo0RZHGKeWzf vLASmTKcxZRS2DGBsSyQ7mzLcmtjHLH7DW+LRBm9ren+b4GItKA= =fcsU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

El 23/01/17 a las 16:30, Carlos E. R. escribió:

On 2017-01-23 08:51, Per Jessen wrote:

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Martin amended it later, the correct url is:

https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/pluskalm/52970/opensuse-board-ele...

Sorry, where is the list of candidates with their speeches?

I have not tried login to the above page, though, but I don't expect that info to require login :-?

After read their speeches if you want to vote, you will need to login... -- ------------------- GPG Key: 0xcc742e8dc9b7e22a Aprende a proteger la privacidad de tu correo: https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/es/ Mi blog sobre openSUSE, GNU/Linux y software libre: https://victorhckinthefreeworld.com/

Le 23/01/2017 à 20:54, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

I suppose there is a site for the speeches, open, and another another for voting that needs ID.

right now you can login and read the text without voting (the link is next to the candidate names) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

On 2017-01-23 20:58, jdd wrote:

Le 23/01/2017 à 20:54, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

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I suppose there is a site for the speeches, open, and another another for voting that needs ID.

right now you can login and read the text without voting (the link is next to the candidate names)

I see. Not good. All five names are repeated, twice. If the board is five members and there are only 5 candidates, I see no point in voting... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 04:16:05 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

If the board is five members and there are only 5 candidates, I see no point in voting...

Only two positions are up for election right now. -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

Richard Brown composed on 2017-01-24 10:06 (UTC+0100):

Felix Miata wrote:

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Yi yi yi yi yi yi yi. - - - - - - - to this election process. :-(

In which case, can I assume you volunteer to be part of the Election Committee for next years election?

I suggest you ask in 11 months or so. I'm >60. Other than MD appointments, I rarely make commitments one day in advance, much less one year. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

On 24 January 2017 at 14:21, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2017-01-24 06:17, Felix Miata wrote:

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Carlos E. R. composed on 2017-01-24 04:16 (UTC+0100):

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If the board is five members and there are only 5 candidates, I see no point in voting...

Only two positions are to be filled via the current election. The entire board is not elected or re-elected at one time.

But this is not said in the voting page!

It isn't? https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/pluskalm/52970/opensuse-board-ele... says "Two seats are contested in this election, meaning each openSUSE member has two votes to cast." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

Dne úterý 24. ledna 2017 14:39:03 CET, Carlos E. R. napsal(a):

On 2017-01-24 14:30, Richard Brown wrote:

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On 24 January 2017 at 14:21, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2017-01-24 06:17, Felix Miata wrote:

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Carlos E. R. composed on 2017-01-24 04:16 (UTC+0100):

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If the board is five members and there are only 5 candidates, I see no point in voting...

Only two positions are to be filled via the current election. The entire board is not elected or re-elected at one time.

But this is not said in the voting page!

It isn't?

https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/pluskalm/52970/opensuse-board-e lection-20162017 says "Two seats are contested in this election, meaning each openSUSE member has two votes to cast."

No, it doesn't. I was told to go to:

https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/pluskalm/52970/opensuse-board-ele ction-20162017

where it says (loaded yesterday night):

«Welcome to the election of the 2017 openSUSE board. The board consists of one appointed chairperson and 5 elected members who may serve up to 2 consecutive terms on the board.

To clarify - Each openSUSE member has TWO VOTES they can use for this election

Note that no single organization or company can control more than 40 percent of the electable board seats (more than 2 seats). Please read the full description of the election process.»

Notice that the words "two seats" is not there. I reload the page and now it says:

«Welcome to the election of the 2017 openSUSE board. The board consists of one appointed chairperson and 5 elected members who may serve up to 2 consecutive terms on the board. Two seats are contested in this election, meaning each openSUSE member has two votes to cast.

To clarify - Each openSUSE member has TWO VOTES they can use for this election

Note that no single organization or company can control more than 40 percent of the electable board seats (more than 2 seats). Please read the full description of the election process.»

So someone has changed the page today. Thankyou for that, but that person could have replied to my post saying that and thus stop the discussion.

The poll linked in Martin Plaskal's mail (delivered to me Saturday 9:26 CET; follow the thread up to initiation) contains link https:// connect.opensuse.org//pg/polls/read/pluskalm/52970/opensuse-board- election-20162017 with text "Two seats are contested in this election, meaning each openSUSE member has two votes to cast." (It is even quoted by You!) and link to https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_rules I don't miss anything... -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/ https://trapa.cz/

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On Tue, 2017-01-24 at 14:39 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2017-01-24 14:30, Richard Brown wrote:

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On 24 January 2017 at 14:21, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2017-01-24 06:17, Felix Miata wrote:

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Carlos E. R. composed on 2017-01-24 04:16 (UTC+0100):

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If the board is five members and there are only 5 candidates, I see no point in voting...

Only two positions are to be filled via the current election. The entire board is not elected or re-elected at one time.

But this is not said in the voting page!

It isn't?

https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/pluskalm/52970/opensuse- board-election-20162017 says "Two seats are contested in this election, meaning each openSUSE member has two votes to cast."

No, it doesn't. I was told to go to:

https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/pluskalm/52970/opensuse-bo ard-election-20162017

where it says (loaded yesterday night):

«Welcome to the election of the 2017 openSUSE board.  The board consists of one appointed chairperson and 5 elected members who may serve up to 2 consecutive terms on the board.

To clarify - Each openSUSE member has TWO VOTES they can use for this election

Note that no single organization or company can control more than 40 percent of the electable board seats (more than 2 seats). Please read the full description of the election process.»

Notice that the words "two seats" is not there. I reload the page and now it says:

«Welcome to the election of the 2017 openSUSE board.  The board consists of one appointed chairperson and 5 elected members who may serve up to 2 consecutive terms on the board. Two seats are contested in this election, meaning each openSUSE member has two votes to cast.

To clarify - Each openSUSE member has TWO VOTES they can use for this election

Note that no single organization or company can control more than 40 percent of the electable board seats (more than 2 seats). Please read the full description of the election process.»

So someone has changed the page today. Thankyou for that, but that person could have replied to my post saying that and thus stop the discussion. Hello

Nobody changed the poll description since it was created, it has stated two members since its creation, reelection two members of board was also clearly explained at [1] Cheers Martin Pluskal 1. https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-announce/2016-12/msg00000.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEwQnJ+Ps8HqIKhK3yWyRdZ/3eaFcFAliHYUIACgkQWyRdZ/3e aFc2QQ/8CnyL5f/V2GLfn2mWR/x200zkf+hzlHtHPrKeigTuBUQGe3sIEFz+pDzH 2ucZbhFjxhjAVzIKeCt0tW+l7Q64yJbb1ysWwoiz/t61FBVFJZr+t1+yRf/rt6Av CaBBn7x5Q1ccDJ4f+m2/DLsRIlc7R3aLaez7j+OsLw47PNTJ7Uly6/vzA4QkUr/S bVbBokPlKHz+6naSJ2MAUb5fCJgIRFwXe13QzFcuVNwXlG4OPXOu6iE7g4py0GkE X9sIMRl7lfIVYNIMbQ+EXw6Ne2KNPapzgXFs9fY6dFL1pZ4ZhU+jQTzf9YevUPVL vrIKh2i2RJBfvteBeWFC3SL12OfZ7TWeJLuHbxtXrLKJBTnzMLEjK8musaaByUIT b24KbS5F3KzxpBBhuQjV3EFbaLaU2AQyOBnMCW795Xe455m3Ngb5uWdMFr9+C8W5 5ejNOsB/iyeW1q5V4XpJR6ZeTwULcy9Nt/SpWaXoN7nvHBzgK6zdpkykXlZxJMm7 bJd5afHwh+EGR7pC1v924Tl4fKfFwrNwv1r6PAKDx6TvTjDCvrigDSPxmOo/rA/V Rle55FzT3261zPd0qI5ReGZ2H1zjtbI2OFMq5a1Xp3y/zXHYi2HH+lqRYXjLMQhD DJMj2p8MB47BZpDPqLHF2bvoorS0gMVYHVzJqHTf5IM960giDLw= =dR6c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:21:05 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2017-01-24 06:17, Felix Miata wrote:

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Carlos E. R. composed on 2017-01-24 04:16 (UTC+0100):

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If the board is five members and there are only 5 candidates, I see no point in voting...

Only two positions are to be filled via the current election. The entire board is not elected or re-elected at one time.

But this is not said in the voting page!

Each member has two votes, ergo, there are two seats up for election. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 20:31:21 +0100, Sebastian wrote:

Hi,

On 01/24/2017 08:15 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:

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Each member has two votes, ergo, there are two seats up for election. No, this argument doesn't hold. E.g. I don't know of any democracy where you can cast as many votes as positions/seats are available. (Doesn't need to be a nation, also applies to much smaller organizations like the size of opensuse)

P.S.: I'm following this discussion as outsider, I'm not involved in the process on either side.

It's how the board elections have always been done in the past. The number of votes is the same as the number of open seats, and the only time we've voted for the entire board was the first time - the terms have never all expired at the same time. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org