20 Sep
2008
20 Sep
'08
1:41 p.m.
I just got a second notification that somehow the opensuse.org mail
aliases for members are broken. We did a large sync yesterday so that
all new members receive their adresses and it seems that something
went wrong there.
If you have problems, please tell me so that I know who has problems -
and we're trying to figure out what went wrong and will fix it,
Andreas
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21 Sep
21 Sep
3:03 a.m.
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The Saturday 2008-09-20 at 13:41 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I just got a second notification that somehow the
opensuse.org mail
aliases for members are broken. We did a large sync yesterday so that
all new members receive their adresses and it seems that something
went wrong there.
If you have problems, please tell me so that I know who has problems -
and we're trying to figure out what went wrong and will fix it,
I have problems sending, not receiving.
I suppose this is not the proper list to handle this, but I don't know
which one.
I use (I have to) the gmail smtp relay to send email as @opensuse.org; the
problem is that emails sent to the list get the "from" changed to my gmail
address instead, and thus can be rejected. This does not happen if I send
direct, not to the list.
I do not know if this is a list server problem at opensuse, a gmail
problem, a postfix problem on my side (I upgraded this machine to 11.0
recently), a combination of all, nor what list or what person should we
use to ask questions like this.
As a remailer, the opensuse address is not very reliable for me; any
remailer is unreliable (no smtp).
And of course, I will not send this email as @opensuse. I can't.
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Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
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8:54 a.m.
> If you have problems, please tell me so that I
know who has problems -
> and we're trying to figure out what went wrong and will fix it,
I sent a ail to opensuse+owner, is that the good ail? I don't find it
in the headers
I now receive the opensuse list mails on jdd(a)opensuse.org (old alias,
not recent one) when I was subscribed on jdd(a)dodin.org
headers of a mail:
From - Sun Sep 21 08:43:07 2008
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account3
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22 Sep
4:14 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse-project] WARNING: Some (?) Broken openSUSE.org user mailadresses
Hi,
On Sunday, September 21, 2008 at 03:03:00, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Saturday 2008-09-20 at 13:41 +0200, Andreas Jaeger
wrote:
If you send with your @opensuse.org address and the gmail
changes the envelope-from to your gmail address the list _cant_ know
that you intended to send from @opensuse.org. How should it? It has no
knowledge of what you intend or whatevery gmail rewrites.
Henne
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If you have problems, please tell me so that I
know who has problems -
and we're trying to figure out what went wrong and will fix it,
I have problems sending, not receiving.
I suppose this is not the proper list to handle this, but I don't know
which one.
I use (I have to) the gmail smtp relay to send email as @opensuse.org; the
problem is that emails sent to the list get the "from" changed to my gmail
address instead, and thus can be rejected. This does not happen if I send
direct, not to the list. 
9:30 p.m.
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The Monday 2008-09-22 at 16:14 +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
It has only happened once, and without me changing anything, is back to
work again.
The email goes out with both envelepe "from" and normal "from" set to
AKA(a)o.o, as it should. The configuration is this:
/etc/postfix/sender_relayhost:
AKA(a)opensuse.org [smtp.gmail.com]
/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd:
AKA(a)opensuse.org NOAKA@gmail.com:PASSWORD
When postfix talks to gmail, it gives my gmail login and password, and
gmail accepts it:
Sep 22 00:22:29 nimrodel postfix/smtp[23955]: > smtp.gmail.com[***]:25: MAIL
FROM:<AKA@opensuse.org> SIZE=1523 BODY=7BIT AUTH=<>
Sep 22 00:22:29 nimrodel postfix/smtp[23955]: < smtp.gmail.com[***]:25: 250 2.1.0 OK
Sep 22 00:22:29 nimrodel postfix/smtp[23955]: > smtp.gmail.com[***]:25: RCPT
TO:<opensuse-project@opensuse.org>
All this is correct. Gmail accepts the email because I filled a form to do
so. They also fill a field "Sender" to my gmail address on every email
thus sent (which I somewhat dislike)
However, at least once, gmail changed my o.o "from" to my gmail "from"
and
the email was bounced at opensuse; this is only my guess of what happened,
I have no data.
It has only happened once so far, but it makes this address unreliable for
me.
- --
Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
I use (I have
to) the gmail smtp relay to send email as @opensuse.org; the
problem is that emails sent to the list get the "from" changed to my gmail
address instead, and thus can be rejected. This does not happen if I send
direct, not to the list.
If you send with your @opensuse.org address and the gmail
changes the envelope-from to your gmail address the list _cant_ know
that you intended to send from @opensuse.org. How should it? It has no
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8:42 p.m.
We figured out the problem now: The initial import of email addresses
into users.openSUSE.org contained a number of errors. In the past we
did incremental updates but last friday I did a full sync from users.o.o
to our mail system and thus the errorneous emails were setup.
I was responsible for doing the full sync - to give all those added the
last months finally their email addresses - and did not know about the
errors of the initial import. I apologize for the mess that was created
by my sync due to these erroneous emails.
Darix has double checked the email addresses and fixed all that have
been reported (thanks a lot!). If your email address is still broken,
please file a bugreport against "openSUSE.org" in bugzilla.novell.com
with the changes that should be done.
Andreas
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SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
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