Mis-post, sorry On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 15:58, Richard Brown wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 15:50, Liam Proven wrote:

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I already answered this point. You have ignored it. So I will repeat myself:

On 16/01/2019 13:45, Liam Proven wrote:

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Unless it is possible to isolate _what_ elements of rival distributions allow them to work on your hardware while Leap does not, I don't think there is any real path forwards here.

Indeed. In furtherance of that point, I am currently helping a colleague investigating an issue with their very new laptop that is struggling to boot with Leap/SLE in certain conditions.

We have figured out that this failure to boot is _nothing to do_ with the kernel, mesa, Xorg, or almost all of the usual suspects that people request updates for in the name of hardware enablement.

Therefore, we're currently having to experiment with changing _everything_ (ie. using Tumbleweed) and working back from there before filing the appropriate bug that we can at least scope to realise where the problem is.

And when we get there, the appropriate maintainer(s) will find themselves having an appropriate bug report(s). And things will almost certainly be fixed.

Such is life.. all software sucks in some way, things need to move forward to get better, openSUSE has the luxury of having multiple approaches to solving that conundrum.

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