I've been a openSUSE / SuSE user for many years. As of late I've been
becoming increasingly disappointed with some of the attitudes of some of
the devs involved with the project. Too many times I have suggested
items to improve the usability of openSUSE and have hit the "we don't
support" "use xxxx instead of" "won't fix" replies. This
disappoints me. I have also been a member of the SuseStudio testing
team and I have to say that the attitudes in SuseStudio are nothing but
absolutely stellar where as the oS team seems to be heavily politically
motivated and less then willing to look at improving things that does
not directly fit their developers systems. Many of the suggestions I
have made over the past for oS have been met with basically a "fsck u"
attitude because "we don't like it" or a "we don't use it" or
you want to do that" reply. It's funny that the same suggestions that I
put forward to oS and kicked in the teeth for are so readily accepted as
"ya we can improve this" in SuseStudio. Why is this so? I present to
you a irc convo in the SuseStudio chat room that shows this "can do"
attitude. These suggestions have been put forward to oS many times and
have only been met with nothing less then hostility.
<Deanjo> ie: What product creator should be able to do, but is so
currently riddled with bugs that is fails miserably.
<jamesty2> Deanjo: not quite sure what you mean
<jamesty2> Deanjo: you mean to create direct installation media?
<jamesty2> Deanjo: ah okies
<jamesty2> Deanjo: sorry nope we don't have any plans for that in suse
<Deanjo> crap, all I want is a solution for suse that allows customized
install media that will at least work for "non-standard" disk setups
<Deanjo> The problem with the live installs is that they fail miserably
at configed machines that are using dmraid
<jamesty2> i am no expert in that area
<jamesty2> heading out, cya
<Deanjo> yup late
<Nat1> i would love to have customized install media too deanjo
<Nat1> but i think it might be a better solution to really improve the
<Deanjo> Right now the live installer fails in too many "non-standard"
<Nat1> Do you have some specific feedback there?
<Nat1> I can pass it along and try to get it fixed
<Deanjo> Ya, dmraid
<Deanjo> Part of the problem is the partitioner wanting to format homes
and or trying to format the drives as individual drives
<Deanjo> Then there is also it suggesting to put grub on removable
drives instead of the primary raid
<Deanjo> I know dmraid is "frowned upon" but when you dual boot and want
access by both os's it's the only way without spending big cash on a
hardware raid setup. Plus almost every board out there offers fakeraid
and more and more people are running them
<Deanjo> (not to mention dmraid 5 vs mdraid 5 kicks the living snot out
of mdraid in performance)
<Deanjo> mdraid 20 MB/s writes dmraid 100+MB/s writes
<Nat1> Cool, anything else?
<snorp> Deanjo: so basically you need the full partitioning wizard thingy
<snorp> Deanjo: with mount point setup, etc
<Deanjo> Hell yes
<snorp> I think it would be great if we could produce those
<snorp> I see the value in having it
<snorp> Deanjo: but if you also had all of that stuff in the live
installer, you'd be happy too
<Deanjo> The other big issue but this is with the current partitioner.
If you run a 4:3 screen on installation the left hand column is useless
because your running device mapper and the device names are too long to
show what partition is what without having to scroll
<snorp> ah, nice
<Deanjo> The vertical pane layout is useless. It has to be vertical to
be of any use
<Deanjo> * horizontal
<Deanjo> Try to get /dev/mapper/nvidia_adhebbbb_part1 to show nicely in
that little space even running at max install res
<Deanjo> Another thing is being able to easily setup network configs.
Static IP on small networks is preferred
<Deanjo> At present it hard locks you into DHCP until your first boot
<Deanjo> If I had all the options that the direct install media had
(even with some improvements) I would not hesitate to use it. It really
needs a "advance" setup option
<Deanjo> It needs a Advance button that lets me setup the network,
partitioning, screen etc
<Nat1> i totally agree
<Nat1> we've talked about this a bit
<Nat1> i think we need to make it a higher priority
<Nat1> snorp: we should talk to stano about this
I applause the SuseStudio group for having an attitude that is USER
oriented. Keep up the great work guys. With attitudes like that you
will earn more adopters of opensuse then the actual opensuse project.
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