Re: [opensuse-project] Request for a Blue-Ray version of the upcoming openSUSE 12.2
I'm not sure if something like this is possible for 12.2 which is only just a few days away... p
Also there are a few important questions here:
1. How widespread is blueray this days?
2. What does Linux support of those devices look like
3. How much of our market has blue ray devices
We should research on those topics and, if we see there is potential market, we can look into investing time and men power into development and deployment of blue ray media...
Best regards,
Eugene Trounev
Alexey Eromenko
Hi All,
openSUSE project has nearly done it's 12.2 release !
One great feature to have - is blue-ray disc (BD) install media, in addition to current DVD media. Why ? Because it allows you download once, install everywhere, and blazing-fast speeds, saving a lot of user time later from downloading packages on-demand.
Plus, it will once again let people enjoy the whole openSUSE experience from a single media, and have a new marketing factor to tell to the press release guys.
The BD media should include the full openSUSE repository on a single media. One BD for 32-bit and another BD for 64-bit PC. Availability should be via bittorrent protocol-only, if the FTP server's capacity is limited. As a side bonus, BD media will let enjoy full openSUSE on offline workstations. BD media is risk-free bonus, a feature that will not introduce regressions into current DVD media anyway, and in fact can be done few days post-release, if time is an issue.
I'm looking forward into this release !
Best wishes and thanks to all the hard-working people, -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Eugene Trounev
I'm not sure if something like this is possible for 12.2 which is only just a few days away... p
As said in the previous email, the actual BD images can appear few days after the official announcement of 12.2.
Also there are a few important questions here: 1. How widespread is blueray this days? 3. How much of our market has blue ray devices
Not very high, but still noticeable; estimates say single-digit percents among desktops and laptop PCs.
2. What does Linux support of those devices look like
Support for blue-ray is good; KDE's K3B can write BD discs and Linux can read them. VirtualBox supports Blue-Ray, which is useful for testing the ISO images. (only point where Linux have problems with Blue-Ray is with encrypted Blue-Ray-Video... but we speak about Blue-Ray-Data format here, which is similar to DVD)
We should research on those topics and, if we see there is potential market, we can look into investing time and men power into development and deployment of blue ray media...
The good news: There is very few things to develop here. There is no downside. Only upside. Just patch the scripts to build the BD ISO media, and you're done. Upsides: 1. Install from BD on real hardware is very fast - no need to download any packages. Saves time ! 2. Much better for virtualization (even for non-BD owning users) -- it is very fast to install any OS from a virtual BD on VirtualBox or VMware. Saves time ! 3. Offline capability: some PCs are not connected to the Internet for security or other purposes. Having full openSUSE on BD would be great ! (currently the ONLY other distro to offer this offline capability on Blue-Ray is Debian) 4. Can be done few days after official DVD images. 5. Very little effort to develop & test (testing can be done in VirtualBox). 6. something to tell to marketing guys, on announcement date Best wishes, -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 2012-08-30 14:49, Eugene Trounev wrote:
I'm not sure if something like this is possible for 12.2 which is only just a few days away... p Also there are a few important questions here:
2. What does Linux support of those devices look like
Pretty much all relevant devices since 1998 support ATAPI.
3. How much of our market has blue ray devices
I'll postulate that read-only discs with areal density less than a hard disk will be irrelevant before Linux distros get a cd mastering software that matches cdrecord. Because hard disks are just so much faster, both in read speed seek latency, and capacity, people are starting to keep many disc images on disk already. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Jan Engelhardt
On Thursday 2012-08-30 14:49, Eugene Trounev wrote:
I'm not sure if something like this is possible for 12.2 which is only just a few days away... p Also there are a few important questions here:
2. What does Linux support of those devices look like
Pretty much all relevant devices since 1998 support ATAPI.
3. How much of our market has blue ray devices
I'll postulate that read-only discs with areal density less than a hard disk will be irrelevant before Linux distros get a cd mastering software that matches cdrecord.
Because hard disks are just so much faster, both in read speed seek latency, and capacity, people are starting to keep many disc images on disk already. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
+1 Put the money into server bandwidth and increasing the number of end-user applications packages in the distro relative to Fedora, Debian/Ubuntu and Mageia. I can't do anything about the bandwidth on the last mile, but I hope I never have to burn an optical disk again. I've got a bag full of 4 GB USB sticks, but it's getting more cost-effective to just boot up a network install USB stick and grab the latest stable and secure packages at install time off the servers, for *all* distros. -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/znmeb; Computational Journalism Publishers Workbench: http://j.mp/QCsXOr How the Hell can the lion sleep with all those people singing "A weem oh way!" at the top of their lungs? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
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