I don't think a list of names would be suitable, or even possible due to legal constraints. What would have been beneficial would have been some form of announcement possibly via the Board saying that there are job cuts and these will affect some of the Novell staff with a direct involvement in the prpject. Obviously once the affected staff have been advised. This is the first (and hopefully last) occurance of this and as such mistakes are inevitable. We need to take a leaf out of other big projects and be more engaging with the press/media. This will not be easy, but can and will happen. I am not defending Novell's mistakes, but I am defending openSUSE; and as Novell are part of the community they get some defence. They are like a child going through toilet training, there are accidents but with percerverence they manage to do it on their own. The crucial part is it takes leadership by example - do as we do not as we say. Regards, Andy -- Sent from a Nokia E71 Andrew Wafaa, openSUSE Member: FunkyPenguin. openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org . -----Original Message----- From: Martin Schlander Sent: 24/02/2009 00:00:26 Subject: Re: [opensuse-project] Open Support Mandag 23 februar 2009 20:32:11 skrev Gerald Pfeifer: I don't understand how anybody can claim to want to build a community, and then be completely silent, when major events affecting the community greatly like these firings occur. I don't remember seing any official communication about this whatsoever, except some executive level bullshit in the press - but nothing at all addressing the concerns of the openSUSE community. A list of names would probably also be against the interests of the directly affected peopIe, but I'm pretty sure it would have been possible for someone to release some information to the openSUSE community explaining what goes on, why, how it affects (different parts of) openSUSE short and long term etc., without Novell getting in too much legal trouble because of it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org