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Michael Loeffler wrote:
On Monday 30 July 2007 16:00, Pascal Bleser wrote:
I've heard that Michl is against it, and given his position, I presume that's a "no-no" veto.
Am I already known as master of "no-no" veto? :-)
If so, could someone (preferably Michl himself) explain the reasoning behind it?
No reason behind it as we currently just created a first version of the susegreeter. This new susegreeter will have an icon on the desktop and bridges the distribution with the project. First version will be included to Alpha 7 - see here a preview: http://ktown.kde.org/%7Ebinner/greeter.png
OK, fine with me, s/one-click/easy access/
But correct, I'm not very much in favor putting an extra icon for the "One-click to IRC" on the dekstop. Reasons for that:
- we try to minimize the number of icons on the desktop
- we believe to adress many of the "how to get in contact" questions with new
- simple icon without further explanation connecting direct to the server
might cause problems
OK, those would be addressed by using the susegreeter instead. That's fine.
- bear in mind we count serveral thousand installations a day and would invite
pretty many of them to #suse - could become crowded, couldn't it?
Hardly would be that crowded. It's not like it's auto-connecting to #suse on login ;)
But frankly, I really think that the interactive help that can be provided on IRC is very valuable to users, including inexperienced users.
Of course, it would be more than helpful to get them to read channel rules and give them further links about how IRC works, proper behaviour, etc... (unfortunately most don't read IRC topics), but I'm not sure whether it can be done in a good way in terms of usability. Having crippled screens with a dozen things to click is too complex for inexperienced users, especially those who never used IRC before.
Afraid of people misbehaving ? We have ops. Afraid of it getting "out of control" ? Make it clear that it is "community support" and not an official Novell channel, and trust the community.
Let's put it to the agenda for Wednesday's IRC meeting.
OK, I'll try to attend.
Thanks for your reply.
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