Tirsdag den 25. maj 2010 14:43:56 skrev Henne Vogelsang:
On 05/23/2010 09:17 AM, Martin Schlander wrote:
I don't see how leadership could come from outside Novell - or at least it would be futile to try to lead the distribution in any direction that is not carefully aligned with Novell interests and man power.
Novel repeatedly stated through Ralf Flaxa and Gerald Pfeiffer (Vice Presidents), AJ and Michl (Product Managers), Klaas, Jürgen, Lars, Marcus, Holgi etc. (Engineering Managers), Adrian, Michael Schröder, Coolo, Henne (Project Managers), Joe Brockmeier (now ex-Community Managers) and a lot of other people with a @novell.com address that Novell wants the openSUSE project to go and do great things. That Novell wants the openSUSE project to be an open source project. That Novell trusts in the mechanisms of open source. That Novell, with its interests and its man power, intends to play the same role as everyone else in this project. What more do you want Novell to say about leadership?
This is our project, this is open source: leadership comes from the people who do stuff. If Novell wants to push the distribution/project into some direction it will. INSIDE this project! By discussing it and doing the work afterwards. Like it does already since quite some time. If you or anyone else wants to push the distribution/project into some other direction you do the same. There is no sanctioning needed from Novell for doing anything in this project. Hence leadership can come from everywhere INSIDE this project, you just have to take it :)
No. You're wrong ;-)
Having people working against each other, and pulling in completely opposite and random directions and then see who pulls the strongest in the end is fail, and will probably get us just about nowhere - or at least on a zigzag course.
"go and do great things" or "create the world's most usable linux" is not operational - it can mean a million different conflicting things and it says absolutely nothing about which direction openSUSE is supposed to move in, and it does nothing to guide decision making and priorities (what kind of stuff to package, what bugs to fix first etc.).
Whereas other distros have clearer, more operational goals like: * "we're all about bleeding edge and open source for geeks and enthusiasts" (fedora) * "we want to be easy enough for Grandma Tillie, no matter how much crappy python code and gpl violations it takes" (ubuntu)
Shit. To me it even seems like every Novell employee has his own little agenda that is in no way shape or form aligned with what anyone else is trying to do.
We need clear, operational and _common_ long term goals and a clear target audience, to guide decision making and priorities. But of course there should be some room to maneuver inside these goals.