Gesendet: Montag, 10. September 2018 um 15:10 Uhr Von: "Patrick Shanahan" email@example.com An: firstname.lastname@example.org Betreff: Re: [opensuse-project] Re: Board Meeting Minutes of August 21 2018
I fail to see the problem with revealing the vote weather one or two or ... do not follow the majority. there is no shame in disagreement, it only shows disagreement. unless there is a unanimous result, there will always be a dissenter, one or more who disagree. a consensus does not require unanimity.
That's the result of the new transparency. I can tell you at first I thought the same as you. I created Board Meeting minutes with names and gave it for a review to the other Members of the Board. What do you believe happened then? Some of them didn't want to read their name. We had a small discussion about our default structure in our Board Meeting Minutes.
On the other side we have European rules like the new European privacy regulation. So we are not allowed to publish names without any agreement.
I would surely thing that to be a member of the board, one would be compelled to agree to the rules for the board, so the problem of agreement does not exist, or we have board member(s) who should not be on the board.
when one puts aside the possibility of revealing personal data or non-disclosure items, I fail to see the problem with revealing the vote. either I am quite dense (a definite possibiltiy) or you (collective) have failed to present a compelling agrument.
You are elected for the position in the openSUSE Board, because the community trusts in you. You can find our rules and what we have to do here: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Guiding_principles#Governance Is there anything about the handling of disagreements? In the past, Richard wrote only small summaries about Board meetings. We wanted to change it to show what we are doing. So we can receive your feedback and know what you want to have improved.
reveal the vote with respect to the two situations above or call for a vote from the board about revealing the vote, or present it to the membership for a vote. and the board voting on this would be somewhat self-serving. I believe the membership should decide.
At the moment we have people who don't prefer that. So we have to discuss that.
btw, I read the lists and see the posts there. I have not requested and have absolutely no requirement for an additional personal mail for what I can read on the lists.
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