On 23. Jul 2021, at 08:24, Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.com> wrote:

On 22.07.21 14:13, Richard Brown wrote:
On Thu, 2021-07-22 at 09:57 +0200, Axel Braun wrote:
** Regular Rebuild (Respin) of Leap installation media (#23) **

- have a 4GB image downloaded, and then another 2GB of updates is not
smart
- SLE started respins every 3 month
- There is a market for respins, esp. from Asia where internet
connection is
  not the best
- Board to send mail to RelEng Team to propose respin (Axel)
- Axel to join release engineering meeting
I think it is rather innaproriate for the Board to be providing dictats
on technical matters to openSUSE contributors.

Richard, I read "propose" and you say "dicate".

I think it's perfectly fine for anybody to make a proposal.

Please read carefully and don't overreact,

Andreas

Respectfully AJ, I do not overreact.

The RelEng minutes clearly document that this was interpreted as a TODO from Board.

The pagure ticket from the Board clearly show there was some discussion about handling this via the usual community mechanisms (as is documented and as should have been done in this case), but some on the Board felt that “Yes, but the From: is different if the Board requests it....”

https://code.opensuse.org/board/tickets/issue/23

The Boards rules exist so that the Board should never be used to apply undue pressure on the development carried out by the openSUSE project.

It’s clear the Board was aware of how things should be done and they went ahead and did things in a way differently from what their own rules require.

That’s not right, and while I wholly agree with the proposal, it should have come to the community via the usual methods (lists, bug or feature reports), not by the Board inserting themselves in development team meetings and _knowingly_ throwing their weight around.

It’s just not right and threatens to create an adversarial relationship between our development teams and the Board which is meant to empower (not direct) them.


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