On 6/2/21 8:14 AM, Christian Boltz wrote:
Hello,
Am Samstag, 29. Mai 2021, 07:20:56 CEST schrieb Simon Lees:
On 5/29/21 9:27 AM, Christian Boltz wrote:
On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 2:15 PM Christian Boltz wrote:
TL;DR: Here's your can of worms. [...] Believe me - I thought twice before I wrote that mail ;-) I also would prefer a simple[tm] solution, but I'm afraid this isn't
Am Freitag, 28. Mai 2021, 21:48:20 CEST schrieb Neal Gompa: that simple.
Maybe rather then trying to find a complex solution thats perfect we should aim for a simple solution thats going to work for most users most quickly.
I'm afraid that would lead to https://bit.ly/3ccqLgJ ;-)
That could look like 1. Rename the freenode field (or just use it as is) 2. give people write access to that field atm (currently I can't edit mine). 3. Email all members giving them a week to update the field if they care about there cloak or wipe it if they explicitly don't want one as well as to register there nick on Libera Chat. 4. Give the people at Libera chat a complete list to process at some point when they have a chance.
Right, doing a batch request makes sense - but that's a technical detail.
The obvious issues with this approach is I don't know how hard 2 is to implement.
Welcome to the club (I also don't know, and am not too keen to spend time on this dead horse), and congratulations for finding another worm I didn't mention ;-) (and guess why I proposed to (ab)use the "about me" field ;-)
There is the potential that someone who is not a openSUSE member registers the nick an existing member used on freenode and accidentally ends up with an openSUSE cloak. I don't think this will happen enough that its a big issue.
You assume that the content of the "Freenode IRC nick" field is (still) correct for everybody.
No, I assume its correct for most people and that others would update it if they care enough (presuming we make that possible).
Try to mail all members, and you'll find out how up-to-date the mail addresses are. Most people tend to care about keeping their @o.o mail address working, and nevertheless, there will be several undeliverable mail addresses.
I guess it would also be wise to email project as well.
The IRC nickname typically gets entered when requesting membership, and (nearly) never updated. Therefore I'm quite sure it it's more often outdated (= wrong) than the mail address.
At the same time people who go to the effort of registering there IRC nicks tend to almost never change them and if they do they still keep the old one around.
(+ people might have a different nick on Libera, or didn't register there, or ...)
Obviously this wont handle the cases where people don't update there nick in connect or haven't registered there nick on the new network. But obviously these people will have had some warning and by not acting they are showing its not that important to them. We can come up with a process for them and now members in the future. But with minimal approach from all sides this would get most people sorted.
I know my method causes a bit more work, but yours sounds like https://bit.ly/3ccqLgJ [yes, same link as above].
I'll kinda agree with that picture other then 90 - 95% simply choose to walk across the bridge to the side and in reality the cliff edge is only about 1m high, which was enough for me to once break a finger but wont cause any more serious injuries. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B