Hi Peter,
On 7/11/23 17:02, Jochen Breuer wrote:
> On 08.07.23 22:57, Peter Czanik wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, fully agree. Inclusion is not using any flags but being fully
>> neutral. Neo-nazis and LMBTQ, Catholics, Muslims, and atheist working
>> peacefully together on fun technologies, like Linux distros, BSD
>> variants, open source software, not caring about the others
>> political, sexual or religious orientation. It worked perfectly for
>> decades. As soon as you divert from technology topics, you will have
>> long, heated, and completely off-topic debates, not solving anything.
>> Just like this one ;-)
>
> Are you serious about this? Nazis working well with people that have
> other ideas? Have you noticed what happened a few decades ago? Are you
> calling that "worked perfectly"? Cheesus! I really hope you have a
> twisted understanding of what a Nazi is!
>
Yes, I'm serious about this. I knew two people with far right views. I
learned about their political views just accidentally and years later I
worked with them. They never shared their views publicly. But unlike me,
under the surface they were not politically neutral. However, they are
some of the best coders and managers I have ever known, and learning
about their political background did not change my opinion about their
technology achievements.
Personally I do not care about people's political views in a technology
community, like openSUSE, FreeBSD, Fedora, etc. I only care about
technological contributions. And that's how I can have friends in all
extremes of the political, religious, etc. spectrum. And this is one of
the reasons why I prefer full neutrality in technology projects. It
allows people who have completely opposing religious, political,
whatever views outside of the technology world to work perfectly
together on technologies.
Peter
I'm amazed by you story. Good for you that you did that. However I wouldn't go near them even with a 10ft cattle prod. Simply because I do not want to be associated with that kind of folks. Also being part of a minority group makes you wary of this, because you know in essence they hate your guts.
In that sence it's at best unwise for people of colour or LGBT people to be needing to work together. That's a disaster waiting to happen.
I don't think a project as openSUSE is good place for Nazis. But that's my opinion of course.
Kind regards,
Natasha