Il giorno mer, 23/05/2007 alle 11.31 -0500, M Harris ha scritto:
As I read through the draft two questions came to mind. The sad fact of the matter is that several (a limited few) of the "members" of the opensuse community participating with this project are rather foul-mouthed obnoxious barbarians. (not at all the friendly folks described in the Guiding Principles).
As I tried to tell you already, the members of the community are not barbarians, as you want to describe them. They're fair guys, usually experienced with openSUSE and Linux, who try to help people who asks question and look for help. The answers you receive were not unfair, but a direct consequence of your statements.
I am finding it difficult to believe that the Novell corporation is tolerating the foul demeanor of those participants if in fact they are Novell employees. If they are not Novell employees, then why not moderate the language and attitudes of participants according to the Guiding Principles?
Thanks to Novell for not doing this. OpenSUSE is a free place where you can tell your opinion. Novell is not responsible for what we write here.
I trust that this is one of the overall goals for the Guiding Principles.
You should hope exactly the opposite in my opinion, because I think a moderator would have banned you from the list a lot of time ago.
The second concern is that this document should contain a section which spells out the communication channels, netiquette, terms of use (and so forth), so that there is no ambiguity regarding operational protocol.
The netiquette is common sense, and it's available in Google. We should concentrate on contents, not on form. Sometime I think openSUSE thinks to form already too much.
This should also include proper forms of mutual respect including language, personal attack, name-calling and the like. I realize that that level of detail probably goes "beyond" guiding principles; however, if participants can spend their time working, testing, authoring, supporting, answering questions--- instead of constantly bickering and squabbling regarding proper protocol or attitude-- this is probably the best overall guiding principle.
I agree. So why don't you install alpha 4 and try to see if it works on you system? Why don't you report the bugs you find in it? Why don't you give some feedback to developers instead of complaining about barbarians who don't exist? Please, don't tell me it's too complex for non-developers people, because many of us are not developers and do that anyway. Regards, A. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org