Greetings! Would the moderators (if there are any) *please* KILL THIS THREAD! it is embarrassing. I'm new to this email list, and a relatively new opensuse user. I agree that there should be some general codes of conduct.. but those should be set by the moderators.. and the people who don't like the codes of conduct or how they are being enforced and care enough about it they should be encouraged to start up their own email list. SOLUTION: Find a list that parallels the function/demographic of this one.. check their guidelines.. tweak them a bit.. and call it done. If people stop using the list, ask them why and tweak again.. OpenSuSE is an organization that fosters a collaboration concerning a linux distribution.. but every activity within OpenSuSE's organization does *not* need to be decided by the user-base. Think of it as a degree of quality control. If this thread goes on much farther I'm going to leave the list. I have better things to do with my time.