On 2018 M07 5, Thu 08:26:33 CEST Simon Lees wrote:
On 05/07/18 01:48, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
On 04.07.2018 09:04, Simon Lees wrote:
On 03/07/18 21:54, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
On 03.07.2018 13:21, Simon Lees wrote:
On 03/07/18 19:55, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
On 03.07.2018 06:33, Simon Lees wrote: > So yes it makes sense for openSUSE to have its own bank account and > openSUSE already has the power to do this without needing to ask > SUSE.
Interesting, how so?
Well we can create an account but we can't make SUSE put money in it,
Who is this "we" you talk about? You and?
The openSUSE board acting as the people responsible for the projects finances.
Are you seriously suggesting that you want to propose to handle openSUSE donation on a private bank account of yours? I hope not :-)
Nope most certainly not :-)
Do you realize that you are talking in riddles here? Could you please simply tell us how you would create a bank account for openSUSE? I don't see how that could happen without a new entity which currently does not exist. Unless you simply would continue to use SUSE's back account. Which, I think, is the most pragmatic solution anyway.
My personal initial gut feel on SPI is that if we partnered with them we would almost certainly continue operating the way we have been especially in regards to infrastructure like hardware where we ask for donations of physical hardware or purchase it with through SUSE rather then the SPI and the SPI would just be a fallback / plan B to use in cases where we need to work around cases where SUSE's budget is frozen. Whether other umbrella orgs would give us more freedom i'm still researching. And of course other then the board deciding that this is an issue that we need to look into and solve I haven't discussed any of this with the rest of the board yet they are also reading my opinion for the first time here. But in the next meeting I will hopefully have info on a larger range of orgs then just SPI.
SPI or other umbrella organizations are great for projects which don't have any other organization to handle financial and legal things. They come with some burden, though. They might not be as flexible as desired and they of course take a fee. Wouldn't it make much more sense to go with the organization supporting openSUSE for its entire existence, i.e. SUSE? SUSE has proven to be a good steward, has reliably put in resources and manpower, and is still giving the community quite a bit of leeway. There might be a few constraints here and there, but if you look at it compared to the total support in terms of infrastructure, resources, manpower, is it really worth talking about it? Wouldn't our time be much better invested into maintaining the great relationship between SUSE and openSUSE instead of moving away? -- Cornelius Schumacher <cschum@suse.de> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org