Greg Freemyer schreef:
I've sort of lost track of where this thread is going, but to seriously consider OpenSuse as a standalone project without major input/resources from SLE seems to me to be a dead-end. I suppose in the long run one could argue that OpenSuse should develop its own SLE like solution and support structure, but I see no advantage in it.
As to the Novell association, I'm indifferent. It's been years since the MS contract and its time to just quit worrying about it from my perspective. There will always be those few that feel it tarnishes opensuse, but I really think that is the minority at this point and in general people are ready to re-evaluate their opinion of suse.
fyi:
Currently as a OpenSuse team member I feel good when I see kernel developers, userspace project team members etc with a suse.de address.
It may not seem like much to the casual user, but to me its a big deal to see that because I know that suse is contributing back to the community in a major way. And at least in the projects I look at I see a lot more suse support than redhat.
IIRC, when I became a opensuse team member I was given a email address of some kind, but I don't recall being encouraged to use it and I never have.
Assuming I recall correctly and the email address identifies me as identified with opensuse, simple things like encouraging its use by team members is a form of free and subtle marketing that I think can go a long way in making the overall community appreciate how much the suse team contributes.
Greg
Hi Greg, In and around oS the urge and need is felt for a clear point of vieuw. As with the law of gravity, someones opinion does not change a thing about it: everything you throw up, except a healthy bird, will come down again. To keep developers as yourself able to do your job, sometimes, changes have to be made in order to sustain that. The developers themselves should not have to worry about it: Just do what they do best, and enjoy it. openSUSES growth has reached the point where 'maturity' lingers. As all children that grow up, they want to have a place and opinion of their own. Still they keep a warm place in the hart of their parents.... as this is just the way things go.. The own identity becomes more impportant, as the need and urge to receive their own friends. For some reason the fathers house may not be the right spot for this. As all children also here the need is felt to earn 'own' money, nothing wrong with that. Discouraging here is not the right way. Encouraging to experience what is needed to be able to be selfsustaining is a good thing. The parents will not let their children down, if they not immediately succeed in their efforts, but praise them for their efforts, and say: nothing is easy, all beginning is difficult but: determination and preserverence will eneveteble lead to the goal.. Maybe you think wtf is he blattering about, but that doesn't matter either... Things are set in motion and will not be stopped here.. If everybody involved does what he/she does best, keeps confidence and determined, preserverence will lead to the goal. -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball, aka M9. OS: Linux 2.6.27.19-3.2-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64) KDE: 4.2.1 (KDE 4.2.1) "release 103" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org