Dear All, this week two projects dear to me and I hope a lot of other users and devs got releases out: kde 4.10.2 and kde telepathy. both provided in community maintained repos KDE:Release:410 and KDE:Extra. Unfortunately if some curious, tester or old time user wants to try the packages he/she will not find them... why? simple.. obs was not really usable. I see two issues with the situation... 1. Users get frustrated cause they cannot find the latest announced versions... We fail to capitalise on the wave of interests that usually gets created when a new version is released. 2. packagers/testers get frustrated... The community did the work for these packages to be ready on time for the release... just to discover we did not have enough steam to build the official tar balls. Shall we understand that the community work is not really important for opensuse? To make things ever more annoying... my home projects build and published faster that packages in KDE:Extra... so I can conclude it is simple an issue of policies and priorities on obs... Can we have a discussion on this please? Let us try, as a community, to establish and implement a set of rules on using obs build power in such a way that gives the community repos some advantage over home and branch projects in order to make opensuse shine. Alin -- Without Questions there are no Answers! ______________________________________________________________________ Alin Marin ELENA Advanced Molecular Simulation Research Laboratory School of Physics, University College Dublin ---- Ardionsamblú Móilíneach Saotharlann Taighde Scoil na Fisice, An Coláiste Ollscoile, Baile Átha Cliath ______________________________________________________________________