On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 03:35:43PM -0800, Fraser_Bell wrote:
On 11/27/20 9:12 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
Hey all,
We seem to have a problem on the openSUSE mailing list of shaming people and assuming ill intent. ?????
Here we have someone asking the people on the list to please become friendlier and more courteous, to respect others, to not attack others, and to follow the openSUSE Guidelines (Yes, they exist for all to see!).
What is the response?
To attack and disrespect this request, to argue against us following our guidelines or to "be nice"!
Someone said the list has not driven people away from openSUSE. I know, for a FACT, that it has.
There are several others I know of who have done the same, but I can *certainly* speak for myself.
I withdrew from contributing to openSUSE months ago, most of the reason a principle along with the nasty tone of these lists, and publicly stated so in these lists.
In fact, I had asked that my Membership be cancelled: A request that was not honoured.
I now withdraw that request, tentatively, while I participate at a fraction in the new conversations.
I will be watching to see if I will return to openSUSE and to contributing, or if I will just drift off. So what??? Well, if I am stating this publicly, you can bet there are others doing the same.
Let's get some balance here. I also decided to leave most openSUSE mailing list and minimize my involvement in openSUSE project but this is in no way related to harsh language or communication being too direct, touching someone's feelings. Quite the contrary, it's the fact that representants of openSUSE "community", while speaking of being nice, friendly and inclusive, behave in most uncommunitylike manner. Michal Kubeček