On Monday 06 December 2010 11:55:17 Adrian Schröter wrote:
Hi Greg,
first of all, thanks a lot for fetching this task. If this project succeeds, it can definitive make a difference for openSUSE :)
On Tuesday 30 November 2010 09:11:04 Greg KH wrote: ...
Q: How does this differ from Factory and the recently announced
Factory-Tested?
A: Factory always contains the bleeding edge versions of our packages
that the maintainers have created. Sometimes these packages don't work well together and cause the machine to fail to boot (Hence the need for Factory-Tested). Tumbleweed will contain "stable" versions of these latest packages that have been deemed to "work" properly.
A good example of how Tumbleweed is different from Factory would be to look at the kernel package today in Factory. It is 2.6.37-rc as the goal is to have the final 2.6.37 release in the next 11.4 release. But, it is still under active development and not recommended for some people who don't like reporting kernel bugs. For this reason, Tumbleweed would track the stable kernel releases, in this case, it would stay at 2.6.36 until the upstream kernel is released in a "stable" format.
Even though .37 is final, there are still often regressions (esp. due to driver updates). I think some Tumbleweed:Candidate project would be the requirement in any case.
Just a suggestion: We may can add a voting in OBS, where people can say "works for me" or "breaks heavily for me + bugnumber". The Tumbleweed maintainer can decide afterwards, if it is worth to ignore the problems (there will be always some). And this would ensure that a sufficient number of people have tested the update. (I think base components would require more people to test than leaf packages).
In case we have an agreement that this is a good idea, I offer to write a concept proposal early next year for this. -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH email: adrian@suse.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org