Op donderdag 6 september 2018 16:22:49 CEST schreef Per Jessen:
I'd like to mention some things here, from the thread:
- The board has never been more transparent ( Vincent/Wafaa ) than
currently. - One of the ongoing items in the board meetings ( with publishing regular minutes on the project ML ) actually is transparency. Do not expect us to be perfect in this matter. FWIW we decided NOT to discuss this ( thread ) in our yesterday BM, instead to keep it here, with us as individuals taking part.
- What does sadden me: I've always felt that after standing up for
board ( not my personal plan, but on community request ) I could count votes as a statement of trust in that I would work as a board member in the interest of the community. From this thread I get that doesn't fit.
The community cannot know how you interpret their wishes and desires. The ones who voted for you no doubt trust you, but would probably still like to know. The ones who didn't vote for you might also like to know. Why should "trust but verify" not apply to you and/or the board?
So far, only one single community member ever asked me about my personal pov/ vote on subjects the board voted on and made public. This about this thread, never before. Even though I've stated in the past that I'm willing to many times.
If I would have known I'd be out in the open "stark naked", I doubt I would have stepped up. Has it ever occurred to someone that as a board member my first priority is the community, not by personal desires / opinions?
Your _personal_ interpretation of "community" is very important though. Maybe it doesn't coincide with somebodyelses interpretation. I still think it is your personal opinion on the community that matters.
I was in the election IRC meeting, IIRC no one asked me what my POV on 'community' is, anybody could have. And my "If you have any questions, feel free to contact me" has been out there dozens of times. And FWIW, my personal interpretation of "community" has been all over the place since openSUSE exists.
- Are we going to deal with all the other teams like this as
well? I.e. Are the forums team going 100% transparent? Can all the mod area discussions be anonimized and publised? Same for the other teams?
If those teams are elected or appointed by the community, in principle I think we ought to.
Please also read my latest responses to this thread. I am *not against further transparency, defnitely not*. But, I do want to see this happening in a well thought through, a well balanced and ditto documented manner. A first step the board took ( agreed upon unanimously ) was publishing more of the minutes. And, the decision made at last BM to not have the same discussion in Board Meetings, but rather take part in this thread, was another step.
Another point of concern I have is the amount of work involved. Minutes have to be taken much more detailed than we do now, which might imply that one of the members has to focus on taking the minutes instead of actually taking part in discussions. A thing that comes to mind is having a community member taking minutes, which also would avoid mistrust re. the minutes from the board itself, but at least allow all board members to take part in discussions and be well-informed re. things that need voting. Taking detailed minutes and at the same time 100% joining a meeting is virtually impossible, at least for me :).
The main reason I'm following this thread and take part in it, is because I feel I owe that to the community that voted me on board to use my eyes and ears, and my questioning my own POVs, over and over again. For me nothing is writen in stone re. my opinions; if someone, or others, come up with things to think about and reconsider my POV, I have no hesiation to do so, even gladly.