On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 at 14:25, Vinzenz Vietzke
Am Freitag, 22. Februar 2019, 13:03:55 CET schrieb Richard Brown:
If I was a Membership Official, I would be bloody pissed off to find a mailinglist thread discussing the future work I would have to do without consulting with me first. Forget the bloody technology for a second, think about the people, start reaching out to them and talking to them.
This is the -project mailing list. The topic is relevant for the project, connect is part of the project's infrastructure. Furthermore I can see at least two membership committee persons in this thread literally asking where to help instead of being pissed. So, maybe your assumptions are just wrong and by pushing the technology aside you're derailing the discussion from it's boiling point: finding a solution for the problem instead of pointing towards symptoms.
I count one - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Membership_officials#Members And while I know jdd does a good job among the team, I also know he does less than other Members on the list I think it's the height of bad manners for one group of contributors to go steaming ahead without taking care of the impact that it could have on other, equally hard working contributors. The technology doesn't matter - openSUSE isn't a Project built on technology, it's built on people. You cannot convince me that there isn't a need here to remind people to stop, take a breath, and talk to the people impacted. Any change in this area _must_ have the consent of the people actively using connect.opensuse.org - that is our Membership Officials. They must be happy with any action before it's taken. Any change in this area _must_ also have the consent of the openSUSE heroes, as they're the ones maintaining our systems. They must be happy before any action is taken. Everything else is secondary to that. Not invalid, not unimportant, but we're a community project - We must not allow our collective desire to do the right thing technically to go steaming over the contributions and work of others. We're not a community is we don't put our own people first.
Until then, all this debate is hot air.
Oh come on, seriously?
Yes, seriously. We've all read the technical ideas presented to solve the problems here, but it's not going to be more than hot air until the people who want to do this work get the people currently using connect on board with their solution. I don't like saying 'woah horseie' to the rampaging emotive gallop of this community at full speed, but that is part of the Board's job Facilitate communication with all areas of the community - this mailinglist is insufficient, the Heroes and Committee need to be involved, it's the Board's job to remind everyone here of that. Facilitate decision making processes where needed. - the Membership Officials and Heroes need to have their say in this decision, it's the Board job to remind everyone here of that. Take care of those things, and we can all quite happily race ahead to a new solution, but, yes, seriously, I've got to remind everyone of the other sides of this issue. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org