On 26/06/2019 15:20, Sébastien 'sogal' Poher wrote:
Hi all, This thread is socially and politically very interesting.
Le mardi 25 juin 2019 à 20:14 -0400, Patrick Shanahan a écrit :
* Simon Lees
[06-25-19 19:58]: On 26/06/2019 04:09, Sébastien 'sogal' Poher wrote: Onto the more important parts, as I said somewhere else the "chairperson" is really just a title, Richard doesn't always chair / direct meetings often we take it in turns depending on the topic of discussion and who knows more. Having said that alot of the time Richard does chair, but partly thats because everyone else is too lazy.
but there is a *title* and with it comes ... even if only perception, it must not provide an inkling that any entity can provide influence that they would not otherwise have.
I do not see the title in itself a problem. A Chair person, even if he/she doesn't always chair meetings, can be the spokesperson of the project/foundation inside and outside of it, representing the project/foundation interests. But if he/she represents both the openSUSE project/foundation interests *and* SUSE's interests, it is a problem.
SUSE has a habit of picking chairperson's who tend to put openSUSE's interests in front of SUSE's. There are many many times i've seen Richard put openSUSE's interests in front of SUSE's but never the other way. Having said that the chairperson could change sometime so it is something that could become a concern. Having said that, SUSE's interests tend to also line up with openSUSE's and there is a large selection of openSUSE employees that generally put openSUSE before SUSE.
SUSE should have the right to appoint its representative amongst board members (especially if we keep the SUSE part in openSUSE project/foundation name, I wouldn't want that someone uses my name without having a look at what it does with it!) and its counter power, if I may say, should be a community elected Chairpersonn.
I still think that if it was to change, it would be better if the board voted for the chair person, you could get members to vote for a new chairperson out of the part of the board that wasn't up for re election, bu unless they voted for the SUSE appointed person it would mean a new chairperson every year, which would loose part of the consistency which is one of the things that the SUSE appointed chairperson was originally designed to bring. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org