On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 at 09:23, Vincent Untz
The "replacement" doesn't necessarily require somebody to step up and set up a new service.
But again, what is important here is to retire a service that is not maintained, has security issues, and contains personal data. This should be the priority.
The "replacement" has the following clear requirements 1) Aspiring Members must have a way of applying to be a member. 2) This application must include some details of their contributions for the Membership Committee to verify. 3) The membership committee must have some way to coordinate their activities so the decisions to +1/-1 an application are honoured. 4) The decisions of the membership committee must have some way of being tracked 5) Some way of granting the perks of Membership (eg. opensuse.org email addresses and voting) must be provided Currently only connect.o.o provides the above, and I do not yet see suggestions that address the above requirements Requirements 1 & 2 will put new demands on aspiring openSUSE Members. The consequences on these important new blood to the project should not be ignored, and the implications and solutions need to be discussed to the satisfaction of the community as a whole. If we don't get this right, we discourage new contributions from being new Members, which is a terrifying prospect. Requirements 2-4 will put new demands on the already hard working Membership Committee. As far as I am aware, no one has spoken to them about whether they are comfortable with the impacts on their contributions to the Project. If they do not agree to the actions being taken here, then the Project has no way of validating new members, which is a terrifying prospect. Requirement 5 will impact every single existing member. The potential loss of all of our @opensuse.org email addresses or the establishment of separate classes of Member, those with the benefits the scheme expects and those without (because no one took care of the tooling) is an unappetizing prospect. All of the requirements I describe above are about the _people_ of the openSUSE Project. What they will need to do and how they will be impacted. Technically, connect.o.o might need to go, but whoever wants to turn it off, needs to do the work of thinking about the people effected, talking to the people effected, and addressing the needs of the people effected. Stomping feet and demanding servers are turned off is not going to accomplish that. Instead, please direct your energies to ensuring actions taken for good technical reasons don't produce larger personal and constitutional impacts for the Project. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org