December 2023 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

RE: Board Member vs Community Member
by Patrick Fitzgerald 12 Dec '23

12 Dec '23

To my mind, this is all about the difference between "asking for permission vs asking for forgiveness". Linux has thrived, in part, because people have acted first and asked for forgiveness later. Personally I think the current logos are fine, but if the community feels that they want to change them, let them come up with alternatives that be submitted to Suse as suggestions. Suse have every right to refuse the submissions, but who knows, someone out there might come out with the perfect logo. On the other hand, I think that money is better spent on events and infrastructure than trademark lawyers... but having enough for both would be even better ;) /p -- -------------------------------- Patrick Fitzgerald All Support queries to: isupport(a)i-layer.com <mailto:isupport@i-layer.com> -----Original message----- From: ddemaio openSUSE <ddemaio(a)opensuse.org> Sent: Monday 11th December 2023 8:58 To: Richard Brown <rbrown(a)suse.de> Cc: project(a)lists.opensuse.org; Gerald Pfeifer <gp(a)suse.com> Subject: Re: Board Member vs Community Member On 2023-12-09 09:52, Richard Brown wrote: > On 2023-12-08 10:18, Douglas DeMaio wrote: > > Have a look at every single reddit, telegram, twitter, or matrix > discussion on the topic and you will find words from others than > myself also either echoing similar concerns or just outright disliking > the idea of changing the logo. I find this latest email from you to be > obscenely patronising and unbecoming of an openSUSE Board member who > is meant to represent the wishes of the Project as a whole, and > especially it's voting membership. Please explain to me the difference between acting as a board member vs acting as a community member? I certainly don't speak on behalf of the board with this. If the suggestion is that my position within the project infringes too much or carries too much influence on this decision, let the marketing team from Telegram drive it. I'll certainly take a backseat to the process and discussion going forward. > >> And with the trademark aspects, that statement is there for a reason. >> The phrase "If you don't know, you better ask somebody" isn't just >> military jargon. Silence on the trademark for the month between the >> submissions and time to vote isn't being railroaded in my opinion; >> there was certainly a sufficient amount of time. > > It took several years from initiating discussions on trademarking > Kubic before it progressed. > As I have repeatedly pointed out on several other venues, every single > change, alteration, or addition to the openSUSE trademark has also > been a process lasting several years. > If you think a month is a good time for a topic of this complexity, > then frankly, I think you're unfit to be driving this matter, and I > respectfully request that Gerald take the lead, giving his > professional responsibility as Chairperson. Point taken. I don't shy away from criticism and this conversation goes as far back as 2019? What do others think? v/r Doug

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[oS-EN] Laicolasse
by Carlos E. R. 12 Dec '23

12 Dec '23

Hi, I noticed that since 12-06 the "important security update" mails are coming from "null(a)suse.de", instead of "opensuse-security(a)opensuse.org" or "opensuse-security(a)opensuse.org". Changes break filtering rules. Is there a good reason for this? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))

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Community Meeting: Week 50
by ddemaio openSUSE 11 Dec '23

11 Dec '23

Hi all, The meeting will take place at https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting, which if down will be at https://meet-test.opensuse.org/meeting We will have a community meeting tomorrow (Tuesday) at 14:30 UTC (60 minutes). Here we will go over the results of the Logo Contest. We will discuss the winning logos of the contest, the options we have going forward and try to find a consensus on our next steps for each logo. Community Meeting 2 is scheduled for Thursdays at 20:00 UTC. I will not be at this meeting nor others until the new year. Submit a talk and register for the openSUSE Conference 2024 at https://events.opensuse.org/ Find all meeting notes at https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting v/r Doug

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Let the voting begin!!!
by Douglas DeMaio 11 Dec '23

11 Dec '23

Hi all, Read the article about the logos contest at https://news.opensuse.org/2023/11/23/selecting-the-new-face-of-os-is-underw… or go to survey.opensuse.org to vote. v/r Doug

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Bugzilla from SUSE
by Carlos E. R. 08 Dec '23

08 Dec '23

Some times I receive on the mail bug reports sent from suse.com instead of opensuse. Like this one: +++———————————————————————— Subject: [Bug 1214158] ***** Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 12:45:49 +0000 From: bugzilla_noreply(a)suse.com To: carlos.e.r(a)opensuse.org Please, visit https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1214158 for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You are receiving this mail because: * You are on the CC list for the bug. ————————————————————————++- The text contains no information, not even the name of the bugzilla. If I click on the link, I can not open the bug: You are not authorized to access bug #1214158. To see this bug, you must first log in to an account with the appropriate permissions. I have to open the opensuse bugzilla site instead and manually paste the number of the bug in order to even read it. This is outrageous! :-/ Can't we have the bugs reports sent from the opensuse bugzilla instead of from the SUSE bugzilla, which is useless to us? At least when the address is an alias(a)o.o?

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Community Meeting: Week 48
by ddemaio 07 Dec '23

07 Dec '23

Hi all, We will have a community meeting today (Tuesday) at 14:30 UTC (60 minutes). Community Meeting 2 is scheduled for Thursdays at 20:00 UTC. Submit a talk and register for the openSUSE Conference 2024 at https://events.opensuse.org/ Find all meeting notes at https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting Meetings takes place in https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting v/r Doug

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Community Meeting: Week 49
by ddemaio 04 Dec '23

04 Dec '23

Hi all, If https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting is down, we will do the meeting in https://meet-test.opensuse.org/meeting We will have a community meeting tomorrow (Tuesday) at 14:30 UTC (60 minutes). *** Please note, on Dec. 12, we will go over the results of the Logo Contest. Please attend this if you have any interest in the logo contest. Community Meeting 2 is scheduled for Thursdays at 20:00 UTC. Submit a talk and register for the openSUSE Conference 2024 at https://events.opensuse.org/ Find all meeting notes at https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting v/r Doug

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openSUSE Board minutes 2023-11-20
by ddemaio openSUSE 04 Dec '23

04 Dec '23

Board Meeting Monday 2023-11-20 13:00 CEST Meeting didn't happen, but some discussion with two take place Present: Doug, Patrick Excused: Mau, Gerald, Gertjan, Neal Missed: This week's report to be sent by: Doug Guests: Project Updates Geeko Foundation will likely take over TSP process Discussion about monitizing openSUSE Youtube channel Rather than funds go straight to Google, seek to use the Youtube earn to let some funds go to Geeko Foundation Should it become noticiable or problematic, we will revert back Doug called for vote from board members who didn't attend. 5/0/1 Board Meeting ends at 13:35 CEST.

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Reminder meeting : openSUSE Board meeting next Monday (13:00 Europe/Berlin)
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 04 Dec '23

04 Dec '23

Hello all, The biweekly board conf call will be held in two days at 13:00 Europe/Berlin time (CET = UTC+1) Meeting will be in the regular Board Meeting Room https://meet.opensuse.org/OSBoard Current Topics: https://code.opensuse.org/board/tickets/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Board Members: If you cannot participate, please advise by replying to this mail.

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