July 2021 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] How we will use the GSoC money
by Vincent Untz 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Hi, (let's see how a public discussion about money goes :-)) The Google Summer of Code brings us great students, but also means that the openSUSE project will get $8000 (if I'm not mistaken) at the end of the summer. That's $500 per student. A while ago, I requested comments on my blog about what to do with the money, but didn't get any feedback. So I take this as "do what you feel is best", and this mail is about the plan. As a reminder, the main issue is that we will likely not have the openSUSE Foundation created in time for this. For instance, Google would like us to get some form filled before the end of June; this is not a mandatory timeline, but I think it shows that we won't be ready with the Foundation for that. The current plan is to give that money to another organization we feel close to, and I have two candidates in mind: - the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://sfconservancy.org/) it's a really nice org that provides a home for various cool projects (see http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/) and those projects help make openSUSE a great project. - the Desktop Summit (https://www.desktopsummit.org/) it's one of the biggest event this year, and this would help us have some more visibility (since we'd be sponsors, I guess). I'm sure they would welcome this to secure their budget. Note that an alternative solution would be to leave the money to Google for a future GSoC or similar program, but I feel it's better to use the money where it can make a difference today. Now, it's not too late to change the plan. If you have a better suggestion, please tell us. There's no need to argue forever about it, just explain why you think it's good. Keep in mind that if we cannot receive the money ourselves, this also means that we cannot use it to buy stuff for openSUSE. Pavol and I will take the final decision since we are the GSoC admins for openSUSE. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Regular Community Meeting: July 31
by ddemaio 16 Aug '21

16 Aug '21

Hi all, I wanted to send out an email before this Saturday's regular scheduled meeting. The meeting will take place at 17:00 UTC. With the deactivation of connect.o.o., I think this Saturday would be a good time to go over the membership application process we have established using connect.o.o. (https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members) and identify processes we will need to change so that we have a procedure established for when connect.o.o. goes offline. Last week we completed the software.o.o. proposal. I hope to give a status update on this during the Aug. 21 meeting. I'll be on holiday for the next couple meetings following this Saturday's meeting. Meeting Details Date: Saturday, July 31 Time: Meeting at 17:00 UTC Location: https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting20210731 [1] Moderator: Doug Leader: Doug Supporters: attendees Topic: (Default Topic is completely a social meeting) connect.o.o and membership processes A copy of meeting notes will be sent to opensuse-project(a)opensuse.org after the end of the meeting. v/r Doug Links: ------ [1] https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting20210724

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lifecycle wiki page
by ddemaio 16 Aug '21

16 Aug '21

Hi all, There was a recent post on reddit (https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/m1xl56/is_opensuse_leap_ready_to_be…) that made us take a look at how to present our lifecycle page (https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime) and info to be added to the marketing of Leap 15.3. There were several comments on reddit that can be summarized as there is a lack of clear information on how long the lifecycle of Leap 15.x will be going forward. When the info on https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime was originally written, there was some clarity on major versions lasting a minimum of 36 months. We know Leap 42 and 15 exceeded that lifecycle. It looks like we're at a point where we evolved and need to provide a bit more clarity for people based on the reddit comments I propose we change the lifecycle page to include the following sentences and include the info in the marketing of Leap 15.3 and beyond (for the foreseeable future): Leap *Major Release* (15.x) extends maintenance and support until a successor. At present, a successor has not been declared; Leap 15's lifecycle fully aligns with SUSE Linux Enterprise. There is a projection as of March 2021 that Leap 15 will extend to Leap 15.5. Both major versions of Leap 42 and 15 were supported more than 36 months. Any thoughts, changes, removals or additions to the above sentences. v/r Doug

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Evergreen, where has the Long Term Support gone...
by Chuck Payne 16 Aug '21

16 Aug '21

Good morning, So, question. We use to have Evergreen which was going to be our LTS version, so that when a distro reached the magical .3 in the release, we could switch to Evergreen. I haven't seen anything on it in while, has Evergreen stopped? Do we not have any LTS version? I am switching a lot of systems from openSUSE 42.3 to 15.3, and I am saddened by the number of software packages that seem to have been removed. One of the reasons I started using SuSE back in the day was, it had the most packages, which was awesome. Here is an example, Nginx has a log of module packages that are no longer there. Oh, please don't tell me to go too software.opensuse.org, is great only if people keep their software up-to-date. I don't know how many packages I have found only to get that it going to do break major things. Even Tumbleweed seems to be losing packages. Did I miss something? -- Terror PUP a.k.a Chuck "PUP" Payne ----------------------------------------- Discover it! Enjoy it! Share it! openSUSE Linux. ----------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Terrorpup openSUSE Ambassador/openSUSE Member skype,twiiter,identica,friendfeed -- terrorpup freenode(irc) --terrorpup/lupinstein Register Linux Userid: 155363 openSUSE Community Member since 2008.

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[opensuse-project] Can one manually become a "Member Emeritus"
by Stefan Seyfried 09 Aug '21

09 Aug '21

Hi all, after reading https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members, I understand that I can cancel my membership status with immediate effect and forever. To become a "Member Emeritus", with a "way back" into the community in case things might turn good again, I have to wait for the status request and just not respond to it. But the last such request was almost 3 years ago. IIUC I need to stop all actions on the mailing lists (might be a good idea ;-)) and packaging (not so good) for the bot to pick me up. So is there a manual procedure to follow to become "Member Emeritus"? Best regards, Stefan -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Reminder meeting : openSUSE Board meeting next Monday (13:00 Europe/Berlin)
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 02 Aug '21

02 Aug '21

Hello all, The biweekly board conf call will be held in two days at 13:00 Europe/Berlin Meeting will be in the regular Board Meeting Room https://meet.opensuse.org/OSBoard Current Topics: https://code.opensuse.org/board/tickets/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Board Members: If you cannot participate, please advise by replying to this mail.

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Board Meeting Minutes 2021-07-19, 1300 CEST
by Axel Braun 26 Jul '21

26 Jul '21

*** Board Meeting Minutes 2021-07-19 1300 CEST *** Attendees: Gertjan, Gerald, Neal, Simon, Axel Excused: Vinz, Syds Minutes: Axel Guests: Doug, Bittin, Attila, Maurizio ** Meeting reminder ** - Automatic invitiation still not working - Axel opened a new pull request that hopefully fixes it ** Asia Summit Logo contest ** - Following the trademark guidelines on deviating logo layout, the logo winning the logo contest needs board approval. - Simon to reply with board approval ** openSUSE Asia Keynote (#21) ** - Neal willing to hold keynote, but due to timeszone he will probably not stay for the whole event. ** Different policies in different devel projects (#20) ** - AI on Simon to ask community about policy proposals ** Succession planning for board members ** - Some changes made to the onboarding page - no further feedback received on changes - Gerald offers 1:1 talk to board candidates ** Regular Rebuild (Respin) of Leap installation media (#23) ** - have a 4GB image downloaded, and then another 2GB of updates is not smart - SLE started respins every 3 month - There is a market for respins, esp. from Asia where internet connection is not the best - Board to send mail to RelEng Team to propose respin (Axel) - Axel to join release engineering meeting ** public part closed 13:45 CEST **

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Regular Community Meeting: July 24
by ddemaio 24 Jul '21

24 Jul '21

Hi all, I wanted to send out an email before our regular scheduled meeting this Saturday. There are two meetings planned for this Saturday. Adrien has kindly offered to run a meeting at 11:00 UTC and the other meeting will take place at 17:00 UTC according to the results we had from the survey. I will attend the 17:00 meeting and have a proposal I will present to attendees regarding software.o.o. I saw the discussion from last week and don't want to veer away from the time we promised to do a meeting based on the survey. Adrien and I plan to chat about the two meetings and going forward over a couple weeks we can determine if we need something different or want to make it during the middle of the week or find some sort of rotating time. Meeting Details Date: Saturday, July 24 Time: Meeting 1 at 11:00 UTC. Meeting 2 at 17:00 UTC (per the survey) Location: https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting20210724 Moderator: Meeting 1 is Adrien. Meeting 2 is Doug Leader: Meeting 1 is Adrien. Meeting 2 is Doug Supporters: attendees Topic: (Default Topic is completely a social meeting) software.o.o. A copy of meeting notes will be sent to opensuse-project(a)opensuse.org after the end of the meeting. v/r Doug

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Reminder meeting : openSUSE Board meeting next Monday (1300h Europe/Berlin)
by Axel Braun 19 Jul '21

19 Jul '21

Hello all, The biweekly board conf call will be held on monday at 1300h Europe/Berlin time. Meeting will be in the regular Board Meeting Room https://meet.opensuse.org/OSBoard Current Topics: https://code.opensuse.org/board/tickets/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Board Members: If you cannot participate, please advise by replying to this mail. Cheers Axel

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Proposed outline on regular community meetings
by ddemaio 19 Jul '21

19 Jul '21

Hi all, The results of a recent community survey found that 72.46% of respondents believed having a regular weekly meeting for the openSUSE Community is a good idea. To have a regular meeting outside the other technical meetings that exist within the project,, it would be good to have a structure and set of protocols for the meetings. Furthermore, it would make sense to have a couple people willing to take ownership of leading the meetings. I know I can not make a meeting this Saturday since I'm at a wedding the whole weekend. The idea of a regular community meetings came about to: Improve openSUSE projects’ communications Improve the social environment and awareness of projects within the openSUSE Project Understand how projects and participants interact and are structured Below is the proposed outline for the meeting. Meeting Details Date: Every Saturday from 17:00 to 19:00 UTC (per the survey) Location: https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting Moderator: (A group or team of two to three people willing to rotate ownership, takes notes and sends email) Leader: (Person willing to lead a topic for the week) Supporters: (People willing to support the topic being discussed) Topic: (Default Topic is completely a social meeting) Planned topics/proposal: (Should be submitted in Meeting Notes one week before) Impromptu topics: (If time allows and nothing is planned) Topics can involve a tech talk, project proposals, sprint, wiki gardening, desktop or package development, marketing, etc. This is basically a meeting for the community to be decided. Copy of meeting notes needs to be sent to opensuse-project(a)opensuse.org after the end of the meeting.

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