openSUSE Project April 2020

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[opensuse-project] opensuse vs opensuse-support mailing list

by ITwrx

hi, I'm wondering what the difference is between these two lists, or why they both exist/which to use. opensuse English Generic questions and User to User support for all the openSUSE distributions opensuse-support English openSUSE support thanks, ITwrx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

6 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Call for a No-Confidence Vote - Re-Election of the openSUSE board

by Pierre Böckmann

Dear openSUSE community members, this is a call for a no-confidence vote against the current openSUSE board. We should initiate a poll, asking the community whether it wishes a full re- election of the openSUSE board. Reasoning: In advance of the last board member elections Sarah’s application as a candidate raised concerns regarding the expressed opinion and wording. Those concerns were a matter of discussion on the mailing list with a lot of partly harsh words on both sides. Throughout the weeks before the election and throughout the election weeks Sarah’s application and its wording and expressed opinion had at no point been ruled as violation of Guidelines or the Code of Conduct. There has even never been any discussion about it. If there would have been any evidence or indication of a violation those points should have been a topic and should have lead to ruling Sarah out of candidacy. But for good reasons that has never happened. Despite those mentioned public criticism the *community members decided to legitimately elect Sarah* as a new board member. Later, like Marina states in her mail to the community in behalf of the board, 2/3rds of the board members decided in the weeks after the election to force Sarah to resign from the board due to claimed breaches of the guiding principles and the Code of Conduct of which there has never been any evidence or indication and has never been considered and discussed throughout the weeks before the election and the election weeks itself. Even worse, like Christian stated in an answer to the mentioned board statement, at least parts of the board itself breached the guiding principles and Code of Conduct in a very heavy way which even lead to Christian's decision to step down, too. As a result the community has been very upset about the incidents which are subject to this mail. Criticism and distrust in the board had already been around since Sarah and shortly after Christian resigned from the board but even intensified after the board decided to try shutting down speculations and discussions around the reasons for both to step down with their statement published by Marina. As a member of the openSUSE community those last few weeks and its incidents which became finally public are raising serious concerns about whether the openSUSE board is really still making decisions in the full interest of the complete community or rather is putting its own interests above those of the community and respecting the community's elections and the community's rules itself. Therefore we, as the electing community, should initiate a poll and see whether the needed 20% of the community members are in favor of making a clean new start by re-electing the complete openSUSE board instead. Kind regards Pierre Böckmann P.S. Though a few details have become known, we don't know all of the in-depth details. Therefore I want to assure that this mail is not intended to be disrespectful towards the board and/or its members as well as each individuals work in favor of the openSUSE project and the openSUSE community. Nonetheless we can not and should not ignore what has happened in the last few weeks and the unacceptable nature and disrespect towards the community elections outcome, rules and principles. Additionally I am well aware that not everyone will be happy or be agreeable to my proposal of a full re-election of the openSUSE board. Be assured, I took the time and thoroughly thought out this step and that I think that this proposal is in the best interest of openSUSE as a project and a community. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

7 months

[opensuse-project] Upcoming election to backfill a board seat

by Gerald Pfeifer

Dear openSUSE members, just off today's meeting a brief note that the openSUSE board has unanimously agreed to backfill the open board seat with an election for that vacancy. The next steps will be initiated by our trusted openSUSE election officials. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to reach out! Gerald -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

7 months

[opensuse-project] Wanted: New hosting for opensuse-community.org

by Martin Schlander

Dear community We need new hosting for the opensuse-community.org website as Bruno "tigerfoot" Friedmann can't host it anymore for personal reasons. If you're not familiar with the site, it's just a basic place for hosting information and one-click installers for multimedia codecs, the YaST Community Repositories "feed" and similar things. For legal reasons it's better to have these things at arm's length outside the official openSUSE infrastructure. However outside the United States I'm pretty sure there should be no legal concerns about hosting this content (note: IANAL). It's been hosted by different individuals in a couple of different European countries for a decade or more now with zero issues. The technical requirements are next to none. Maybe a few megabytes of storage required for static html/css and a few xml files. I assume there's a substantial number of hits/visits, but I don't have statistics. However the files are very small, so the amount of data traffic shouldn't be overwhelming. I'm willing to continue to maintain the content, if I can get access to the new hosting via ftp or whatever. So if you're interested in taking over the hosting, don't hesitate to step up, and Bruno will assist with transferring the domain and any other formalities. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

10 months

[opensuse-project] SLE/LEAP/JUMP Packaging Policy ... and one effect it has.

by PGNet Dev

In case anyone's interested in YA-example, I run openSUSE Leap 15.1 & SLE 15sp1. The former, here, is very definitely the feeder/driver of use & adoption of the latter. TW is not at all an option for production. For me, core tech'y that I care about being both stable & modern includes: kernel, systemd (incl systemd-networkd), dracut, grub, Xen, GCC, git & python Options for openSUSE Leap 15.1, from devel repos, are available & packaged for ALL of those -- except systemd. systemd, OTOH, is shipped in Leap15.1/Leap15.2/SLE15sp1/SLE15sp2 as v234 -- lacking modern functionality, & simply broken in places. afaict, ONLY *TW* packages v244/245 ... Trying to get ANY of the updated versions supported on SLE is an uphill battle, at best. OBS builds of v244/v245 for any of those^ platforms are ... challenged; unless I've missed it, I've seen no successful package builds for any of them. There's little/no interest or response from #opensuse-*, inquiries about policy to opensuse-support list (https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-support/2020-04/msg00070.html) are, so far, uncommented. Attempts to report brokenness, with links to known issues & fixes requiring updates, are dismissed as 'feature requests' with the bugs summarily/unilaterally CLOSED. e.g., https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1169476 "... we can't afford to backport a feature each time an openSUSE user is missing one ..." I find that sort of response closeminded & myopic, but I get it -- not my distro, not my rules. Here, a production OS without a modern/fully-functional systemd is of no interest/use to me; despite my personal preference ... Unless/until an Enterprise-production-class Suse* packages/supports a modern systemd, it's no longer a option. Not Leap, not Jump, and not $SLE. What's this mean just for me? We used to be an all openSUSE/SLES shop; _quite_a_few_ hundreds of installs, a small king's-ransom in license/support costs. By end of this quarter, I'll have moved the _last_ bank of (8) *SUSE production servers, and the development desktops that serve them, to other OS. Me, personally? I'll keep _my_ *personal* desktops & servers as franken-Leap instances as long as I can still hack them into submission; we'll see what systemd package's version stance does to my thinking ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

10 months

[opensuse-project] openSUSE Virtual Summit

by ddemaio

Hi all, I just want to let you know that we will have an openSUSE Virtual Summit May 1 and 2 - https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/oSvirtsmt More information will follow in the coming weeks leading up to the summit. As we had to cancel the Dublin Summit, quite a few of the speakers were interested in having a virtual summit if we could make it happen. It looks like we found an option that will works. I'll send out more information once I have it and post it on the summit webpage. I plan to have the schedule ready by April 24. v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

10 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] bugzilla.opensuse.org (was: Welcome home, www.opensuse.org)

by Gerald Pfeifer

On Mon 2020-04-27, Christian Boltz wrote: > Now we "only" need to move the forums and bugzilla (and of course > also openid), but that are different stories for the next weeks ;-) Moving bugzilla.opensuse.org/bugzilla.suse.com is in the works, with the migration away from Micro Focus planned for May. That one is more tricky since Micro Focus (Novell,...), SUSE, and openSUSE all share one database instance and part of the carve out is to separate out openSUSE and SUSE issues from all others with surgical precision. Christian and one or two others already helped test an earlier export. Thank you! Now there is a public instance available at https://bugzilla-opensuse-devel.suse.de/index.cgi If you spot any REGRESSION (that is, something no longer works) please let me know here TODAY (yes, very tight) and I'll relay. Gerald PS: Full focus is on moving this off Micro Focus, not updating, enhancing, improving yet. So let's focus in the move for now. -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer <gp(a)suse.com>, CTO @SUSE + chair @openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

10 months, 1 week

Re: [opensuse-project] If you are interested in attending the openSUSE Virtual Summit

by Knurpht-openSUSE

Op donderdag 30 april 2020 19:31:08 CEST schreef medwinz: > On Fri, May 1, 2020, 12:04 AM Knurpht-openSUSE <knurpht(a)opensuse.org> wrote: > > Op donderdag 30 april 2020 18:08:09 CEST schreef ddemaio: > > > Hi all, > > > If case any of you are interested in attending the openSUSE Virtual > > > Summit tomorrow, just sign up at https://opensuse.reqmagic.com > > > > So far I have not been able to find a registration link of button, not in > > any > > browser. > > > > -- > > Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht > > openSUSE Forums Team > > Hi Gertjan, > > Try https://opensuse.reqmagic.com/accounts/signup/ > > Check the link in your email and login using your email address and > password you register. > > -- > Edwin Thanks, Edwin. -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

10 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] If you are interested in attending the openSUSE Virtual Summit

by ddemaio

Hi all, If case any of you are interested in attending the openSUSE Virtual Summit tomorrow, just sign up at https://opensuse.reqmagic.com You will need to create an account. Here is some additional information for you in case you want to attend. There is a Telegram public group for the Virtual Summit; the link to it is t.me/oSVS2020 We want to thank our sponsors datto, I-Layer, SaltStack, SUSE and the Free Software Foundation Europe (fsfe). As fsfe gets most of its donations through events, we have listed their website here where they accept donations to the project – https://my.fsfe.org/donate. We recommend you use the Chrome or Chromium browser for the best experience on https://opensuse.reqmagic.com. We recommend you use headphones while watching the summit. You will be able to register for an account to attend the openSUSE Virtual Summit today on https://opensuse.reqmagic.com. Fill in your profile and join us for the Virtual Summit tomorrow. You can view and customize a schedule and view your talks from tab in the upper left corner under “All Sessions”. All times are in UTC and you will notice the UTC clock in the upper right corner. A schedule can be viewed at https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/oSvirtsmt/schedule. Click on “more info” and “Join”. You might need to scroll up to join. If you are unable to view the slides, please refresh your browser. The platform is in the early development stages and features are still being developed. By default, your microphones will be muted and your video sharing is not activated. During a talk, please keep your microphones muted and video sharing turned off. After each session, or to ask a question, you can active your microphone. Should you choose to do so, you can share video of yourself, but please note that we would like to limit any bandwidth technicalities during the presentations, so please do not share video of yourself during a presentation. By joining a room, you acknowledge to having your voice and any video you share recorded. Audio and video recordings for each talk during this event are recorded and will be published on https://www.youtube.com/user/opensusetv. The talks are licensed under the CC-By-SA-4.0 or CC-By-4.0 license. The recording license agreement can be found at https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/. We have openSUSE Virtual Summit T-shirts in the Shop, which is embedded in https://opensuse.reqmagic.com. After a brief introduction at 10:00 UTC and getting people familiar with https://opensuse.reqmagic.com, we will start out the summit from Asia. At 10:30 UTC, Arya Wiradarma will give an overview about a case study focusing on Open Web Application Security Project Frameworks, Open Source Intelligence and risk assessment and analysis with sensitive data. Estu will give a beginner’s talk at 11:15 UTC about the Pod Manager tool Podman. After Estu’s 15-minute talk, Kukuh will highlight translations focusing in on l10n vs i18n, plus online vs offline translations and look at problems with translations. From Asia, we will have a short coffee break and move to Europe for two talks at 12:00 UTC. Denis will talk about installing and configuring Sway on openSUSE and John will provide a talk about CSS containers. There will be another break from 12:30 UTC to 13:00 UTC. We will jump into Adrian’s talk after the break and talk about the current state and upcoming changes for the Jump prototype build. Adrian’s talk will touch on the challenges and advantages of the new idea for development openSUSE. At 13:30 UTC, Leap release manager Lubos will provide a 45-minute talk about the future strategy for openSUSE Leap. After a short coffee break, Marina will talk at 14:30 UTC about the shared efforts between the openSUSE community and SUSE’s Maintenance, Security and QA. Patrick will have back to back talks. At the same time as Marina’s talk, Patrick will talk about Linux in the time of COVID-19. His follow on talk at 15:00 UTC will discuss how to integrate Kiwi into your application stack. Pau will talk at 15:00 UTC about the configuration management project Uyuni and how it can deploy and update packages and track what runs on your Kubernetes cluster. Richard will give a 45-minute talk after Pau at 15:30 UTC about MicroOS and provide the benefits for a single-purpose OS. There will be another short coffee break for people to chat and during that time we will move the summit to talks from the Americas. Neal will give a talk at 16:30 UTC and explain how datto modernized its build infrastructure and enabled continuous integration and delivery. After another short break, Thomas will talk about why he created POP and how he’s applied it to several new projects to make a positive impact on the sustainability of Salt. We will have a social session after the talks, so feel free to hang out for a beer, coffee or tea. We would also like to hear your feedback. You can leave comments on the telegram page or at https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/openSUSEVirtualSummitfeedback. v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

10 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Discuss, Define and be Transparent with the openSUSE Community

by Vincent Moutoussamy

Hi, The SUSE Linux Enterprise Team is acknowledging the openSUSE community needs for a better and transparent collaboration with SUSE. We have now a momentum to think and be different. The symbiosis between SUSE Linux Enterprise and openSUSE is real, we share so much more than just code, we use the same tools like Open Build Service, openQA, similar maintenance processes, people (Release Managers, contributors, etc) and more. We might have been a bit quiet in the past but that doesn't mean we didn't evolve; over the years, we have created more bonds like Package Hub[1], foster our contribution with SLE Factory First Policy for SUSE employees and our Technology Partners, be more accessible during our development phase with the SLE Public Beta Program[2], just to name a few examples. But now we have a momentum to accelerate, especially with regard to being more transparent with our defects and feature requests for the benefit of the openSUSE distribution and community. So we heard you, and today we want to clarify and improve processes, for all of us, and give some inputs on SUSE internal discussions about kicking out the so called "closed doors". So without further ado, here is our action items: * Refresh and create openSUSE wiki pages for processes clarification - Luboš Kocman has already started with documenting the process in place for retrieving SLE Feature Requests[3] and his plan is to present a real and better feature process for external contributors by October or sooner. - We will also review and improve "how to contribute[4], openSUSE Leap development phase[5]" to clarify and formalize information that existed for years, but was not documented. - Create new page about our "SLE Factory First Policy", and potential maintenance and quality assurance topics. * Talk more openly about openSUSE and SLE relationship, - "Current and Future strategy for openSUSE Leap"[6] and "Jump! Current state and upcoming changes"[7] during openSUSE virtual summit[8]. - Upcoming topic in the "How SUSE Builds its Enterprise Linux Distribution"[9] blog post. - A talk about "relationship in between SLE and openSUSE" at the Virtual SUSECon[10]. * Find the proper way to open our bugzilla.suse.com - SUSE is fully committed to protect our customers and partners private data hosted in our tool like Bugzilla. They trust us with their highly sensitive data, so we approach this topic very seriously. However thanks to the full handover of the Bugzilla instances from MicroFocus to SUSE, we now have full control over Bugzilla thus we can now discuss how to change our processes internally to combine data privacy and openness. - A group has been formed (Vincent Untz, Anna Maresova and Vincent Moutoussamy) to drive this project internally and will be in charge of discussing the proposal with all stakeholders including the openSUSE community of course. * Special attention to openSUSE 15.2 (and future) Leap bug reports - Last but not least, Luboš Kocman, openSUSE Leap Release Manager, is committed to review, triage openSUSE Leap 15.2 bugs and feature requests (create a bug for openSUSE Leap 15.2[11]), and escalate to SLE Product and Release Manager. We believe this is an exciting and ambitious plan, and we hope to share more concrete information as soon as possible. In the mean time, do not hesitate to engage with the presenters of "openSUSE and SLE" talks, Luboš obviously, and feel free to comment or send us your feedback here in this thread. Stay tuned, stay home, stay safe and stay green. The SUSE Linux Enterprise Team [1] https://packagehub.suse.com [2] https://www.suse.com/betaprogram/sle-beta/ [3] https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Leap/SLEFeatureRequests [4] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Packaging_for_Leap [5] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Leap_development_process [6] https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/oSvirtsmt/program/proposals/3071 [7] https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/oSLO/program/proposals/2960 [8] https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/oSvirtsmt [9] https://www.suse.com/c/how-suse-builds-its-enterprise-linux-distribution-pa… [10] https://www.susecon.com/ [11] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Submitting_bug_reports -- Vincent Moutoussamy SUSE Beta Program, JeOS and SDK Project Manager Paris, France-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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