April 2011 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] talk at or visit Linux Open Administration Days
by Jos Poortvliet 12 Apr '12

12 Apr '12

Hi all, April 16-17 in Antwerp, Belgium, the Linux Open Administration Days will take place. This free event offers a chance for LPI certification as well as meeting and talking to linux sysadmins. There is a call for presentations here: http://www.loadays.org/content/call-presentations If you want to go and give a talk there about openSUSE tech - that's be awesome. If you can't afford to go there due to travel or hotel costs, let me know, we might be able to work something out ;-) cheers, Jos

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[opensuse-project] GSoC 2011: Bug reporting tool.
by Mihnea Dobrescu-Balaur 18 Aug '11

18 Aug '11

Hello, I'm applying at this year's GSoC to work on the bug reporting tool [0]. I've made my list of features to implement but, before I finalized my proposal, I thought it would be a good idea to ask you, guys: Is there's any particular feature that you wish to find in the openSUSE bug reporting tool? Thank you! Mihnea Dobrescu-Balaur [0] http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GSOC_2011_Ideas#Bug_reporting_tool_for_open… -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Proposal for adapting the trademark guidelines
by Cornelius Schumacher 01 Jun '11

01 Jun '11

We had a couple of discussions in the past about how to improve the openSUSE trademark guidelines (see e.g. http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Trademark_guidelines or https://features.opensuse.org/311039) One of the main issues with the current guidelines is that it's very strict about derivatives, and doesn't easily allow people using openSUSE as a base for their own systems, to keep a visible association with openSUSE. So attached is a proposal how to adapt the trademark guidelines and provide a better solution to this issue. It also contains a few smaller clarifications. It's based on the input I was able to gather from the Wiki, openFATE, mailing lists and some personal feedback. It's a draft, so feedback is welcome. The central change is to allow people to create variants of openSUSE and use a "Based on openSUSE" branding under more liberal conditions than now. We would provide a specific branding for that, which keeps the relation to openSUSE, but is done in a way to not be confused with the branding of the official openSUSE distribution. Technically this would be a set of branding packages, which can be used instead of the default branding of the official distribution. Please let me know, if there is additional feedback on the proposed changes, so we can incorporate that, and then move forward with getting the needed approvals to officially adopt the improved guidelines. In parallel to that we can look into doing the proposed branding packages. Attached is the proposed text for the revised guidelines, and the diff to the current official version. -- Cornelius Schumacher <cschum(a)suse.de>

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[opensuse-project] oSConference: Theme & Program Planning
by Bryen M. Yunashko 06 May '11

06 May '11

This is one of probably several threads that will come out in the very near future revolving around the upcoming openSUSE 2011 Conference planning. This thread specifically focuses on discussion of the theme and program offered during the conference. Discussions beyond this topic should run in a separate thread or we'll end up with crazy threading. :-) Background: openSUSE Project will host its third annual openSUSE Conference at a site and date that has not been selected yet. The first conference, in September of 2009 focused on project discussions and addressing various aspects of governance. It was a more "internal" conference, but did have several good sessions as well. The second conference, held October 2010, came with an official theme "Collaboration Across Borders" and was much more session-oriented with 1 hour sessions on each topic. We extended beyond our internal community and invited others to join and collaborate on topics of mutual interest. Both were very good events in their own unique focus. Theme: What should be the theme of this year's conference? In yesterday's Project meeting on IRC it was expressed that we've already succeeded in using the collaboration theme and we should look beyond that for this coming event. Focus: In conjunction with the theme, how should the conference be structured? 2009 had a blend of sessions (not that many) and unconference where people created topics on-site and we had meetings that were set in 2-hour blocks. 2010 focused more on sessions (I believe we had 70?) and were pretty much pre-established before arriving on site. Though there was some flexibility to change a few things as needed. As we are time-constricted in getting everything properly prepared, I will create a deadline for ideas on Theme and Focus. Set for April 15. At that point, the CFP Team will evaluate the recommendations we all give here and apply it to the Call for Papers. Call for Papers: While date of conference/theme/focus greatly impact our CFP, we should nevertheless move forward and begin planning on the CFP call itself. CFP announcement should go out no later than April 27th with a probable deadline of mid-to-late July. We need volunteers to join the CFP Committee. If you are interested, please visit http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Conference_Planning_2011#Teams and add your name to the Program Committee. Thanks all! Bryen M Yunashko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Conference CfP - what kind of sessions?
by Jos Poortvliet 04 May '11

04 May '11

Hi all, I haven't had any feedback on the draft CfP [1] I wrote nor on the guidelines for speakers [2]. Both had a couple of questions and concerns on the top which need answering, let me replicate the most important of them here. * do we schedule Discussions (as I've called the RW/BoF/Unconference style sessions) fully in advance? Or do we keep the CfP open until the conference? Or do we reserve a certain number of spots for at-the- conference scheduling? I vote for all three: keep the CfP open for these, schedule in advance but keep some slots for at the conference. * I think we should have workshops too. Then we have listen-participate- learn: Talks (traditional one-way), Discussions (bof/unconference/barcamp), Workshops. * 50 minute sessions make sense, with 10 min to change rooms? * It makes sense to allow Discussions and Workshops to ask several 1 hour slots imho... Yes? Furthermore, I believe Alan or Bryen will send a request to this ML for ideas on subjects for the conference (keep the treads separate pls). [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp [1] http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Conference_Planning_2011_CfP [2] http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Conference_Planning_2011_guidelines_for_spe… [3] Let's see what we can do for this conference with the following _assumptions_: *1 big room for talks and 4 smaller rooms *read-only talks only in the big room *discussions in 2 rooms *workshops in 1 room *1 suselabs room *We have 4 days *Starting at 9 with a 30 min keynote *keeping things up until 16:30 (as we have cool ideas for things after *that time) *a 1 hour lunch break and 2 30 min coffee breaks (10:30-11, 12-13 and 15:00-15:30) We can have 5 slots per day per room. That means up to: 1 keynote per day, 4 total 5 talks/day, 20 total 5 workshops/day, 20 total (but several will last 2-4 hours so count on more like 10 workshops in total 10 Discussions/day, 40 total 5 SUSE Labs sessions/day, 20 total. Yep, counted very well, 84 total slots, probably like 75 sessions to be scheduled in total.

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Re: [opensuse-project] Balsam Professional & Balsam Enterprise
by Kim Leyendecker 30 Apr '11

30 Apr '11

Am 21.04.2011 16:32, schrieb Jos Poortvliet: > > On 2011-04-21 Kim wrote: > > > Am 21.04.2011 02:07, schrieb Pascal Bleser: > > > > So you guys are doing what we've been asked specifically_not_ to > > > > do because it would harm Novell's business ? > > > > > > Please tell me the reasons why it would harm Novell´s business? > > > > > > > > > Well, it wouldn´t harm Novell´s business. Do it harm Red Hat when > > > there´s a free clone of their RHEL? No, the oposite is the case. > > > Actually, it does harm RH's business to some extend. At least they > believe so themselves. > > > > Novell would get a bigger community which supports SLE. Why? Because > > > I can free download the clone, and get the updates. > > > You can download SLE for free already to test it. > yes, but you won´t get updates, right? This is the point. > > > > So I can test > > > the clone how long I wanted to test it and then buy a "real" SLE. > > > I´m already familiar with SLE and would be more secure to use it. > > > > > > That´s the way how the RHEL/CentOS-modell runs. > > > But not because Red Hat wants that but because they can't stop it. > Of course they can stop it. If you look at the GPL, you only have to make your source code available to your clients. So, they could do it so, if they want but with CentOS they get a free bugfinding community. So why handle it different? > > > > And by the way, there many users who really want some kind of SuSE > > > Professional for middle companies like SuSE has offered in the past. > > > a SLE Server license costs 290 euro per year, nothing for even a small > company. A desktop license starts at 47 euro/year. Not too bad? > Well, the cost are really low, I have to say, but for this I can also use openSUSE 11.1 feat. Evergreen. So Evergreen is a harm to Novell´s business too... thanks -- Kim Leyendecker (kimleyendecker(a)hotmail.de) openSUSE Ambassador / openSUSE Wiki Team DE HAVE A LOT OF FUN! http://www.opensuse.org | http://www.suse.de Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Google Summer of Code Projects for openSUSE
by Vincent Untz 29 Apr '11

29 Apr '11

Hi all, As you might have read in the news [1], openSUSE is welcoming 16 students for the Google Summer of Code this year. This is truly exciting both because of the projecs themselves, but also because this is great opportunity to work with new people! You can see the list of projects that were accepted at the end of this mail or go read the news.opensuse.org post [1]. In the next few days, students will introduce themselves and their project on this list, so make sure to be nice to them and to not scare them away ;-) We all want to create a positive environment for our students to successfully complete their project, after all :-) Please heartily welcome our students! Vincent [1] http://news.opensuse.org/2011/04/28/opensuse-happy-to-welcome-16-gsoc-stude… ============= Add ext4 snapshots support to snapper (Piyush) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/piyushnim1710/17… Archlinux backend for OpenSUSE Build Service (Nikolay Rysev) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/madgnu/13001 Command line client for Suse Studio Abstract (Ratan) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/ratan/11001 Create a testsuite for btrfs features (Aditya) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/adityadani/24001 Creating a browser-based user interface test-suite (Stoyan Dimkov) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/sdimkov/11001 Entomologist UI Changes/improvements. (David J Williams) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/redache/8001 Fillup-ng (Christos Bountalis) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/mpounta/10001 Heroku like solution for SUSE Studio (Bjørn Arild Mæland) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/bma025/10001 ICC Device Profile Repository (Sebastian Oliva) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/tian2992/9001 new python obs library (osc code cleanup) (Marcus Hüwe) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/mhuewe/13001 openSUSE Build Service (OBS) for Android (Justine Leng) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/justineleng/14001 PackageKit backend and AppStream integration for Software Center (Alex Eftimie) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/alexef/8001 Porting Wubi to OpenSUSE (weijie yang) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/ericyang/10001 SaX3 (manugupt1) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/manugupt1/12001 Separating and Porting YUI library to other operating systems (Linux Based) (N.B.Prashanth) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/nbprashanth/22003 SUSE bug reporter (Mihnea Dobrescu-Balaur) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/mihneadb/18001 -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Looking forward to the openSUSE conference, respond with recommended topic areas
by Alan Clark 29 Apr '11

29 Apr '11

Planning has begun for this years openSUSE conference. Though a date hasn't been confirmed, there is still much to do and preparations that can be made. We really want to include as many community members as possible in the conference preparations, in leading the presentations and participating at the event. At last weeks program committee meeting, it was determined that the conference needs to build and strengthen our community as well as invite collaboration with other people and projects. To best accomplish this it is critical that the conference focus on topic areas that are of most interest to you, and so we are asking for your input. We, as the program committee, are reaching out to ask for your input to 2 questions: 1) What do you consider to be the top two or three current or upcoming topics, (e.g. in terms of technology major undertakings and tasks) that need to be addressed soon, and where one or more sessions during the conference could be helpful for collective brainstorming 2) To engender collaboration with the openSUSE.org project, who are the top two or three people/projects from outside of openSUSE.org that should be invited to the conference for close collaboration? To join the preparations and to stay apprised of the latest plans, contribute at: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Conference_Planning_2011 regards, openSUSE Conference Program Committee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] New questions for people of openSUSE
by Kim Leyendecker 29 Apr '11

29 Apr '11

Dear all! Because there were some discussions[1] about the questions of "people of openSUSE". To solve this issue and make the interviews maybe "community-created" I created this page for adding your desired questions. For any other information, please read the wiki-page and write your quesitons on it :D Any questions? Okay, I´ll be there for you ;) http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:People_of_openSUSE/New_questions thanks [1] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2011-03/msg00537.html Kim Leyendecker (kimleyendecker(a)hotmail.de) openSUSE Ambassador / openSUSE Wiki Team DE HAVE A LOT OF FUN! http://www.opensuse.org | http://www.suse.de Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Question about en.opensuse.org
by Rob Price 29 Apr '11

29 Apr '11

Hello, I was wondering if it would be possible to suggest a link for your website at; http://en.opensuse.org/opensuse:how_to_get_to_the_conference Our site Frixo (http://www.frixo.com/) is a road travel reporting website, that provides our users with the most up-to-date road traffic information. Our data is updated every 5 minutes using sensors placed on motorways and common A / B roads. I feel it might be a useful resource for your readers. Many thanks for your consideration. Kind Regards, Rob Rob Price robprice(a)frixo.com http://www.frixo.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] latest kernel, kernel-desktop-2.6.38.4-22.1, doesn't support my ups and lm_sensors
by Patrick Shanahan 28 Apr '11

28 Apr '11

i7 intel m/b DX58SO2, running 11.4 w/Tumbleweed latest kernel, kernel-desktop-2.6.38.4-22.1, has broken my ups: Mon Apr 25 09:24:38 EDT 2011 apcupsd FATAL ERROR in linux-usb.c at line 614 Cannot find UPS device -- For a link to detailed USB trouble shooting information, please see <http://www.apcupsd.com/support.html>. Mon Apr 25 09:24:38 EDT 2011 apcupsd error shutdown completed and running sensors-detect fubars /etc/sysconfig/lm_sensors, doesn't find correct modules. note: modules in previous kernels only report 1/2 the processors adt7490-i2c-0-2e Adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at 5000 in0: +1.66 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +3.31 V) Vcore: +0.97 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +2.99 V) +3.3V: +3.29 V (min = +2.96 V, max = +3.61 V) +5V: +5.20 V (min = +4.48 V, max = +5.50 V) +12V: +12.23 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +15.69 V) in5: +2.50 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +4.48 V) fan1: 844 RPM (min = 0 RPM) fan2: 0 RPM (min = 0 RPM) fan3: 854 RPM (min = 0 RPM) fan4: 2172 RPM (min = 0 RPM) temp1: +138.2°F (low = -196.6°F, high = +260.6°F) (crit = +217.4°F, hyst = +217.4°F) M/B Temp: +119.3°F (low = -196.6°F, high = +260.6°F) (crit = +149.0°F, hyst = +141.8°F) temp3: +99.5°F (low = -196.6°F, high = +260.6°F) (crit = +149.0°F, hyst = +141.8°F) coretemp-isa-0000 Adapter: ISA adapter Core 0: +86.0°F (high = +177.8°F, crit = +213.8°F) coretemp-isa-0001 Adapter: ISA adapter Core 8: +111.2°F (high = +177.8°F, crit = +213.8°F) coretemp-isa-0002 Adapter: ISA adapter Core 1: +86.0°F (high = +177.8°F, crit = +213.8°F) coretemp-isa-0003 Adapter: ISA adapter Core 9: +98.6°F (high = +177.8°F, crit = +213.8°F) coretemp-isa-0004 Adapter: ISA adapter Core 2: +98.6°F (high = +177.8°F, crit = +213.8°F) coretemp-isa-0005 Adapter: ISA adapter Core 10: +91.4°F (high = +177.8°F, crit = +213.8°F) I have not yet filled a bugreport ????? Should I? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Versionitis - Results (Or: The next openSUSE release is openSUSE 12.1)
by Andreas Jaeger 27 Apr '11

27 Apr '11

The voting on how to do the versioning is over and the "old school" has won by 55 per cent (of 98 participants). Thanks to all that participated in the two votes and the discussion around the topic. As Coolo said in http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2011-03/msg00516.html, we'd like to make a small change to the numbering: We will not have a .0 release but only .1, .2, .3 release. Since we have releases in three months, the November release is always the .1 release, the July release the .2 and the March release the .3. So, the plan is that the next release will be called openSUSE 12.1 and launched on the 10th of November, 2011! Two years later - on the 14th of November, 2013 - we will then have the openSUSE 13.1 release. So, the next four releases are: * November 2011: openSUSE 12.1 * July 2012: openSUSE 12.2 * March 2013: openSUSE 12.3 * November 2013: openSUSE 13.1 Detailed results for logged-in openSUSE members are available at the connect poll page and I have reproduced them here as well: * A: "old school": Like currently but only counting the right number until 3: 55% (54 votes) * B: "Fedora style": Just integers: 29 % (28 votes) * C: "Ubuntu style": YY.MM: 16 % (16 votes) This is also consistent with the results of thefirst public voting (see http://lizards.opensuse.org/2011/03/28/opensuse-release-versioning-poll-on- last-three-options/ ). Note that openSUSE does not have a major and minor numbering, even if it seems so. There is right now no difference in any way between what we would do for openSUSE 11.4 or 12.0 or 12.1 – and no sense to speak about openSUSE 11 or openSUSE 11 family. We also had in the past no process on how to name the next release (when to increase which parts of the number). I think this new versioning is still consistent with the old one but also an improvement since it's now clear that we change the first digit every two year. The first poll showed that half of our users prefer a date based versioning and the other a consecutive numbering. So, depending on your point of view, you can see this as a mixture of both or as consecutive numbering ;) So, time now to make openSUSE 12.1 a great release! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj(a){novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Re: zypper slow
by Chris Jones 27 Apr '11

27 Apr '11

Well I did try with the Google DNS 8.8.8.8 and with the same result, which is what I expected. Because if it was a DNS issue for some reason, it wouldn't be limited to zypper and openSUSE. As previously mentioned both yum and apt work perfect and fast in both functioning and downloading of packages. I freshly installed openSUSE last night and updated. The actual launch and function of zypper doesn't seem to be the issue. It definitely appears to be the downloading of packages as the actual noted download speeds of each package was VERY inconsistent. I suspect it's the mirror from where my packages are sourced. As I'm a relative newcomer to openSUSE, I have no idea how to check which server it is using for the sourcing of the packages. I am located in Queensland, Australia if it helps. Cheers -- PHOTO RESOLUTIONS - Photo - Graphic - Web C and L Jones - Proprietors ABN: 98 317 740 240 WWW: http://photoresolutions.freehostia.com @: chrisjones(a)comcen.com.au or photoresolutions(a)comcen.com.au Command lines and Linux terminals are my comfort zone! OS: openSUSE 11.4 System: Linux 2.6.37.1-1.2 x86_64 Desktop: KDE 4.6.0 OS: Windows XP System: x86 Desktop: Professional SP3 OS: FreeBSD 7.3 System: i386 Server: Headless-WebUI+putty -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Voting blank or "none of the above" ?
by Per Jessen 26 Apr '11

26 Apr '11

Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2011-04-26 08:24, Per Jessen wrote: >> Carlos E. R. wrote: > >> It seems to be to be a little too late to bring this up? > > Not for the next vote. > True, but is there really much point in a blank "protest" vote? Other than satisfying the need of the protester, what will it do? Still, I guess there's no harm done in adding a "None of the above" option to future votes. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (17.8°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Conference 2011: program commitee meeting #1
by Pascal Bleser 26 Apr '11

26 Apr '11

Also on the wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Conference_Planning_2011_Meeting_20110421 The program committee for the openSUSE Conference 2011 held its first meeting today, on #opensuse-project. The team consists of the following: * Vincent Untz * Bryen Yunashko * Alan Clark * Jos Poortvliet * Will Stephenson * Pascal Bleser Everyone was present, except Will who couldn't attend at that time of day. The complete log is available online: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2011/opensuse-proje… as well as the summary of action items and decisions: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2011/opensuse-proje… Topics ~~~~~~ The predefined topics for this meeting were as follows: * Theme * Format As usual, a few more topics arose during the meeting. Theme ~~~~~ The discussion around the theme of the conference revolved around two aspects: * the motto (or tag line) of the conference, with two proposals currently floating around: * "Collaboration across borders" (same as 2010) * "rwxrwxrwx" (openSUSE: read, write, execute, for you, the project, and the world) The debate mostly went about how much collaboration, and how much openSUSE centric sessions should be held. Collaboration is important in many ways: * openSUSE is an open minded project that actively seeks collaboration with other open source projects * doing so at the conference makes it more visible in the press and marketing wise in general (as in: we know it's like that, but not everyone knows nor sees us like that just yet) * of course, it also gives us opportunities to get in touch with other people and projects who are not in the openSUSE community and not directly contributing to openSUSE, but still of high interest for current or future undertakings of our project, as well as to mutually benefit both our project and other open source projects Nevertheless, the openSUSE Conference in 2010 was felt as not making up enough time for topics that are specific to our project. As such, we agree that the focus needs to be shifted a bit more towards openSUSE itself. The team agreed on the following: * the motto is not critical right now, and may still be decided upon later, especially as it also involves other people in the community, such as the marketing and artwork teams * the program committee will request the support of the openSUSE marketing team for the motto, albeit the general theme of the conference will be decided by the program committee; also, the final say on the motto will remain with the committee, but only to veto in if it does not match the theme * the program committee will have as goal to reach a ratio of around 2/3 of sessions being openSUSE centric, and 1/3 about collaboration with other projects * for sessions on collaboration, we will reach out to projects and people who work on things that have a direct connection with what we do Bryen will contact the marketing team to gather their support on the conference motto. Format ~~~~~~ We had a few discussions and ideas about the format of the conference -- more specifically, how to organize the schedule and the sessions themselves. We agreed on the following: * the program committee will write up guidelines and good practices for presentations and BoFs (or what we call "read-only" and "read/write" sessions, respectively) to provide some support for speakers * the program committee will put a strong focus and favor "read/write" session proposals, as we believe that it provides more value to the community, give more people a chance to chime in with their ideas and experience, and also because we are (or at least try to be) an open project without much bureaucracy Venue ~~~~~ Neither the date nor the location of the conference are known at this time. Andreas Jaeger is currently actively seeking options in the area of Nürnberg in Germany, and we hope to have a solution very soon. The venue will have to have at least 5 distinct rooms (of which one will be used by the SUSE Labs conference) to provide sufficient capacity for the attendees, as well as enough flexibility to organize the schedule. Call for Papers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Not having the date nor the location at this point is a major hurdle for a Call for Papers. Indeed, most people will be reluctant to post a proposal if they don't know where and when. Nevertheless, making the Call for Papers is quite pressing, as it typically involves a somewhat longer period of time for people to send their proposals, as much as it needs to take a few days into account for the program committee to decide on those. Jos will write up a draft for the Call for Papers, which will then be quickly circulated across the conference committee for amendments. It will not be published just yet, as we prefer to have a confirmation on the date and the location before we do (for the reasons mentioned above.) The next program committee is next week, where we will decide what to do with the Call for Papers (publish or wait for the confirmation of location and date), especially if location and date are not known at that time. Alan will send out emails to several openSUSE mailing-lists to ask for input on * current or upcoming topics, e.g. in terms of technology * major undertakings and tasks that need to be addressed soon, and where one or more sessions during the conference could be helpful for collective brainstorming * people/projects to invite for close collaboration during the conference (e.g. systemd, smolt, OBS, Fedora marketing team, etc...) The program committee will collect a few proposals for topics/tracks in order to facilitate the submission of sessions during the Call for Papers phase. Infrastructure ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The cfp(a)opensuse.org mailing-list will be used again to contact the program committee as well as to submit proposals after the publication of the CfP (unless we come up with a better solution in the mean time.) Bryen will contact Henne (our mailing-list admin) to configure the mailing-list for the program committee for 2011. We also agreed on using Indico [1] again, mostly because it is already in place. [1] http://cdsware.cern.ch/indico/ Next meeting ~~~~~~~~~~~~ The next meeting of the program committee is scheduled for next week, 2011-04-28, at 19:00 UTC. cheers -- -o) Pascal Bleser /\\ http://opensuse.org -- we haz green _\_v http://fosdem.org -- we haz conf

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[opensuse-project] Re: zypper slow
by Chris Jones 26 Apr '11

26 Apr '11

Well I did try with the Google DNS 8.8.8.8 and with the same result, which is what I expected. Because if it was a DNS issue for some reason, it wouldn't be limited to zypper and openSUSE. As previously mentioned both yum and apt work perfect and fast in both functioning and downloading of packages. I freshly installed openSUSE last night and updated. The actual launch and function of zypper doesn't seem to be the issue. It definitely appears to be the downloading of packages as the actual noted download speeds of each package was VERY inconsistent. I suspect it's the mirror from where my packages are sourced. As I'm a relative newcomer to openSUSE, I have no idea how to check which server it is using for the sourcing of the packages. I am located in Queensland, Australia if it helps. Cheers -- PHOTO RESOLUTIONS - Photo - Graphic - Web C and L Jones - Proprietors ABN: 98 317 740 240 WWW: http://photoresolutions.freehostia.com @: chrisjones(a)comcen.com.au or photoresolutions(a)comcen.com.au Command lines and Linux terminals are my comfort zone! OS: openSUSE 11.4 System: Linux 2.6.37.1-1.2 x86_64 Desktop: KDE 4.6.0 OS: Windows XP System: x86 Desktop: Professional SP3 OS: FreeBSD 7.3 System: i386 Server: Headless-WebUI+putty -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] YaST in G3
by Raul 25 Apr '11

25 Apr '11

Hello friends, I would love to know how they're going to yast gnome3. G3 was incredible in openSUSE, but we can not stay without yast. Cheers, -- Raul Libório http://rauhmaru.blogspot.com/ rauhmarutsªhotmailºcom openSUSE Member | Linux User #4444581 "There are only 10 types of people in the world - Those who understand binary, and those who don't." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Balsam Professional & Balsam Enterprise
by Kim Leyendecker 22 Apr '11

22 Apr '11

Dear all! I read about these two products on Pro-Linux and also th comments there. I see, that there´s a big screaming after a product like the old SuSE Linux Professional line was. The two Balsam products would realize this missed "feature". Are we support these guys at open-SLX who are creating this distro? thanks -- Kim Leyendecker (kimleyendecker(a)hotmail.de) openSUSE Ambassador / openSUSE Wiki Team DE HAVE A LOT OF FUN! http://www.opensuse.org | http://www.suse.de Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] GNOME3 now ready?
by Jim Henderson 22 Apr '11

22 Apr '11

I was just pointed at a blog posting by Frederic Crozat (who I think was working on getting the repository set up) that says GNOME3 is "ready". Since we kinda jumped the gun in the forums with it, I'd like to (a) verify that the project is considering it ready, and (b) find out if we have an announcement that we can use in the forums. Thanks, Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] zypper slow
by Chris Jones 21 Apr '11

21 Apr '11

I have a genuine question for the openSUSE folk. I recently switched from Red Hat to openSUSE 11.4. In a nutshell, I am very happy with the resulting system that I have running with the 2.6.37 Linux kernel. But I just can't understand one thing. What makes zypper so god damn slow when it comes to package management and installation of packages? In comparison to Red Hat's yum and Debian's apt, zypper is shockingly slow at anything it does. I'm curious as to why this is and why it can't be developed to match the speed of yum and apt. Can someone shed some light on this? Cheers -- PHOTO RESOLUTIONS - Photo - Graphic - Web C and L Jones - Proprietors ABN: 98 317 740 240 WWW: http://photoresolutions.freehostia.com @: chrisjones(a)comcen.com.au or photoresolutions(a)comcen.com.au Command lines and Linux terminals are my comfort zone! OS: Windows XP System: x86 Desktop: Professional SP3 OS: openSUSE 11.4 System: Linux 2.6.37.1-1.2 x86_64 Desktop: KDE 4.6.0 OS: FreeBSD 7.3-p3 System: i386 Server: Headless-WebUI+putty -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Balsam Professional & Balsam Enterprise
by Jos Poortvliet 21 Apr '11

21 Apr '11

On 2011-04-21 Kim wrote: > Am 21.04.2011 02:07, schrieb Pascal Bleser: > > So you guys are doing what we've been asked specifically_not_ to > > do because it would harm Novell's business ? > > Please tell me the reasons why it would harm Novell´s business? > > > Well, it wouldn´t harm Novell´s business. Do it harm Red Hat when > there´s a free clone of their RHEL? No, the oposite is the case. Actually, it does harm RH's business to some extend. At least they believe so themselves. > Novell would get a bigger community which supports SLE. Why? Because > I can free download the clone, and get the updates. You can download SLE for free already to test it. > So I can test > the clone how long I wanted to test it and then buy a "real" SLE. > I´m already familiar with SLE and would be more secure to use it. > > That´s the way how the RHEL/CentOS-modell runs. But not because Red Hat wants that but because they can't stop it. > And by the way, there many users who really want some kind of SuSE > Professional for middle companies like SuSE has offered in the past. a SLE Server license costs 290 euro per year, nothing for even a small company. A desktop license starts at 47 euro/year. Not too bad? ;-) > thanks

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[opensuse-project] iChain or iPain?
by Wolfgang Rosenauer 21 Apr '11

21 Apr '11

Hi, I'm suffering from a very disappointing issue with ichain enabled services. Especially build.o.o and en.opensuse.org (wiki). I get basically logged out every two minutes or so. That's not a fixed interval. Editing wiki pages is almost impossibe sind when I try to save I'm already logged out again. This is no fun! Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Come and help!
by Carlos E. R. 20 Apr '11

20 Apr '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, The fact is, there are more people in the openSUSE Forums than there are here in the mail lists. Specially new users. And the sad fact is, that many devs, packagers, maintainers, shun the forums as a place of devils or who knows what - and by doing so, they are missing a huge user and test base. For example, Tumbleweed. Many people are activating Tumbleweed, coming to grief, and subsequently crying for help in the forums - not here. The same is happening with Gnome 3: there are dozens of new threads about G3 there. WE NEED YOU!!! Yes, you knowledgeable person, member, dev, packager, who has worked on your pet project, like Tumbleweed, Gnome 3, or whatever, to go down to the fora and communicate with the huge user base there. What, you do not like the web interface? Neither do I. OpenSUSE forums are very fortunate in that they have a classic text NNTP (News) interface you can use with Mutt, Alpine, Thunderbird... no need to touch a browser with a ten foot pole. <http://forums.opensuse.org/faq.php?faq=novfor#faq_nntp> - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk2mxOgACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VdUQCfQh6NFb21atV4Zdq8xyeDst8H odcAnikoyvVqiXacNjZ8FoA1YZooS+w4 =3YNm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Need some graphics...
by Kim Leyendecker 19 Apr '11

19 Apr '11

article is on preview mode, if I get the okay from you, I will publish: http://news.opensuse.org/?p=8458&preview=true thanks -- Kim Leyendecker (kimleyendecker(a)hotmail.de) openSUSE Ambassador / openSUSE Wiki Team DE HAVE A LOT OF FUN! http://www.opensuse.org | http://www.suse.de Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [reminder] openSUSE Project Meeting tomorrow at 18:00 UTC
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 19 Apr '11

19 Apr '11

Hello all, The biweekly project meeting will be held tomorrow at 18:00 UTC in #opensuse-project on freenode. Everybody is invited to join and participate! Find out what time the meeting will be in your timezone: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=20&month=4&year=2011&h… Agenda of the meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting If you cannot participate and want a specific question to be answered during the meeting, please add your question to: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Questions_Section Minutes and logs of previous meetings can be found at: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/ Thanks, -- openSUSE Meeting Reminder -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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