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[opensuse-project] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/01/31)
by Rodrigo Moya 07 Feb '08

07 Feb '08

Factory testing: - http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/11.0/Testing - Factory is in good, synced shape atm Bug day: - 70-80 10.2 bugs remaining AI: lakhil and munkii to setup 10.2 bug review day Task review: - Mail JP if you want t-shirts or hats for someone - Automate nightly distro installs delayed because of non-workin factory tree, should be better for next meeting - 10.3 updates are in progress - X people can do a themed meeting AI: review RTM (RememberTheMilk.com) usage at next meeting AI: JP to request Adrian attend next theme meeting AI: Create round robin schedule between jpr, srag, captain_magnus, suseROCKs for http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings#Weekly_Duties 10.3 update: - Scott has submitted patch info to autobuild - Maw submitted a fixed xulrunner for 10.2 and 10.3 - Federico is almost done with the intel driver fix - hpj is poking xdmcp breakage on 10.3 with gdm that mmeeks blogged about 11.0 development update: - GNOME 2.21.90 is in as mentioned, 2.21.91 coming in 11 days - Pulseaudio installed by default now - sreeves is working on PackageKit with the yast team again - rodrigo and hpj to start on improved compiz/xgl config soon - federico is lining up bug fix weeks for multihead and gtk file chooser Patch upstreaming: - Hold down for a bit because of difficulties for external people to help - But patch upstreaming work has started -> http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Projects/PatchUpstreaming - Upstreaming kick start session to happend Friday 8th Feb at 16:00 CET Live CD: - Should help out in making sure the live CDs work great with GNOME - https://forgesvn1.novell.com/svn/opensuse/trunk/distribution/images/kwliveC… AI: rodrigo, captain_magnus to create a wiki page with regards to LiveCD ( instructions, goals, things to test, etc) -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Membership
by Francis Giannaros 07 Feb '08

07 Feb '08

Hi! One of the first things that the openSUSE board have been working on is getting some clear acknowledgment through for all good openSUSE contributors. The result of this can be seen through what we think of as "openSUSE Members"[0]. We are glad to announce that the process for becoming a member has just been approved by the board, and that we are now happy to take any applications. Please have a look at the wiki page for instructions on doing so. We hope that this will further distinguish active and helpful contributors to openSUSE, and in doing so bring the openSUSE community closer together. Have a lot of fun! [0] http://opensuse.org/Members -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE and Amazon's EC2
by Mark Van De Vyver 06 Feb '08

06 Feb '08

Hi, Thanks for the effort put into making opensuse available. I'm a 1 year old linux user/hobbyist and have really enjoyed 'working/playing' with linux, I adopted linux because of a colleagues recommendation that it was a better distribution for moderately IT skilled users with reasonably sophisticated needs, computing, etc. As far as I can tell there is just one opensuse based AMI that is publicly available for Amazon's EC2 service. Of course such efforts are up to the community, I was wondering though if there was any thoughts of distributing 'official' opensuse based LAMP/LAMR images. It also seems natural to make a Condor 'installed/configured' image for compute uses cases. Here I'm not thinking of anything as complicated as RedHat's efforts on messaging, though the seem like they will use Condor. Amyone aware of thoughts/efforts/moves in this direction? Appreciate any thoughts/insights. Regards Mark --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Code of Conduct: adopted!
by Federico Mena Quintero 06 Feb '08

06 Feb '08

Hello, Thanks to everyone who showed support for the proposed Code of Conduct! http://en.opensuse.org/Code_of_Conduct The idea is to follow some common-sense rules of politeness when communicating in the various openSUSE forums: mailing lists, IRC channels, web forums, Bugzilla, etc. These places have seen very rude behavior in the past; what we want to do is to make openSUSE actually a nice project in which to participate. * "But newbies get annoying!" That's because they are not used to asking questions appropriately. We were all newbies at some point: we just saw that we had a problem with our computer, and didn't really know what to ask or whom to contact. We simply need to guide newbies so that they can ask the right questions. This may involve making it easier to *find a way to ask the right questions* --- do we need a basic "how to ask" guide for mailing lists / etc? Maybe there already is one and it needs to be better publicized :) * "Experienced people have a right to get annoyed!" Have you ever been walking down the street when somebody stops you to ask, "excuse me, where's the post office?", and it's in front of them? What did you do? You told them, "why, it's right there". You *didn't* punch them in the face and tell them how dumb they are. openSUSE needs to be polite in the same way. Thanks to everyone who showed their support :) Federico on behalf of the openSUSE Board --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Code of Conduct: adopted!
by Federico Mena Quintero 05 Feb '08

05 Feb '08

On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 12:09 +0100, Stephan Binner wrote: Hi, Stephan, > Why on IRC? Are mailing discussions unwanted? Then I understand why there were > no/so few reactions by the proposer on the mailing list to the concerns about > the signatures, being too vague, mention of users who have non-English mother > tongue and considered uselessness. Summarizing the discussion as unanimous > support for a Code of Conduct is a bit strange... Sorry for jumping the gun on sending out the announcement. I guess I rationalized the mails in the discussion as "there is rough agreement and some concerns which fortunately just need some simple clarifications". That turned out to be not the case :( You know when you are so excited about an idea that you thing everything must be fine and you should go ahead with it? That's exactly what happened to me yesterday. Sorry again. Let's discuss this tomorrow in the project meeting. In the meantime, I've changed the wiki page to acknowledge the moderators (big oops on my part for forgetting about that!) and to mention the board only as a last-resort thing. Federico --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE Welcomes Zonker - The New Community Manager
by Masim "Vavai" Sugianto 05 Feb '08

05 Feb '08

On 2/5/08, Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> wrote: > > FYI - I posted the following on news.opensuse.org and I consider it > important enough to share it with those that don't read news.o.o > regulary (you should anyway ;-): > Hi Aj, Well, I've read this over OpenSUSE News, Planet SUSE, mailing list and another resources, so, I believe that this is a big news to OpenSUSE community :-) "The openSUSE community manager will act as community advocate and ombudsman thus relaying openSUSE community and users needs back to Novell." So, is this means that Joe Zonker will be act as our gateway to the Novell ? Is this possible to invite him to traveling around the World ? Maybe we need to invite him to our events in a few next months. Congratulation to Joe Zonker. Warm regards from Indonesian OpenSUSE fans. -- Best Regards, Masim "Vavai" Sugianto /************************************************************/ Blog (ID) : http://www.vavai.com/blog/index.php Blog (EN) : http://www.vavai.net Community : http://www.opensuse.or.id Email : vavai(a)vavai.com /************************************************************/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE Welcomes Zonker - The New Community Manager
by jdd 05 Feb '08

05 Feb '08

Andreas Jaeger a écrit : > I’d like to give a warm welcome to Joe ‘Zonker’ Brockmeier who joins the > openSUSE project as “openSUSE community manager”. welcome, seems to be the right people in the right place :-)) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Build Service trust/rating system
by Rupert Horstkötter 04 Feb '08

04 Feb '08

Hi everybody. I want to raise your attention on a project I'm currently working on with Adrian: the implementation of a trust/rating system for the OBS. We'd appreciate if everyone interested could communicate his opinions/thoughts/impressions on this. We are very interested to get some input from the whole openSUSE community. Adrian has already posted a wiki entry which gives further information on the subject here... http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/Concepts/Trust Feel free to comment on this - input is highly appreciated! Thanks, Rupert -- Rupert Horstkötter, Product Management Email: rhorstkoetter(a)novell.com Phone: +49 911 74053 649 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Topics for board meeting?
by Andreas Jaeger 04 Feb '08

04 Feb '08

We're having tonight an openSUSE board meeting. Is there anything you like us to discuss? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-project] openSuse upgrade "not supported"-What does that mean?
by Henry Lafleur 04 Feb '08

04 Feb '08

Hello all, What exactly does this mean, "not supported?" (reference http://en.opensuse.org/Updating_SUSE_Linux ) Let me give some background on my question. I ran RH Linux from version 5.0 through 9.0 and upgraded in this sequence (I can include mkLinux here, but I didn't upgrade there): 5.0->5.2->6.0->6.2->7.2 (I reinstalled 9.0 because I had the Ximian Gnome disk on top of 7.2 and that did some weird stuff.) I had problems, one which lost my PPP Internet connection (a real fun one), one where my old printing system went away and I fought to print again to a "special" HP printer, etc. but generally everything ran. So besides the possibility of minor inconveniences such as what I saw with Red Hat, what exactly is so terrible about upgrading Suse to make it not recommended and not supported? If I do a full system backup prior, can't I just do a tar to restore my system back (as I did before when my HD crashed)? Are lawyers making you say this or something? Thanks, Henry. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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