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Per Jessen

25 May 2010 25 May '10

14:47

I need to extract text from html for purposes of indexing - implementation language is C or C++. Sofar I've come across html2text which is written in C++ - it looks pretty good, but I will need to make some changes to make it fit my prposes. Does any other library come to mind for extracting text from html? /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-programming+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-programming+help@opensuse.org

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Patrick Shanahan

25 May 25 May

14:56

* Per Jessen [05-25-10 10:49]:

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I need to extract text from html for purposes of indexing - implementation language is C or C++. Sofar I've come across html2text which is written in C++ - it looks pretty good, but I will need to make some changes to make it fit my prposes. Does any other library come to mind for extracting text from html?

w3m -dump <url> lynx has a similar function -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-programming+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-programming+help@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

15:09

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Per Jessen [05-25-10 10:49]:

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I need to extract text from html for purposes of indexing - implementation language is C or C++. Sofar I've come across html2text which is written in C++ - it looks pretty good, but I will need to make some changes to make it fit my prposes. Does any other library come to mind for extracting text from html?

w3m -dump <url>

lynx has a similar function

Yeah, something like that will be the last way out - I'd prefer not having to fork() for such a simple operation. (I'll be indexing millions of documents). Maybe it's worth checking out what those two utilities use for the extraction. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-programming+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-programming+help@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

15:36

New subject: [opensuse-programming] extracting text from html

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

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Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Per Jessen [05-25-10 10:49]:

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I need to extract text from html for purposes of indexing - implementation language is C or C++. Sofar I've come across html2text which is written in C++ - it looks pretty good, but I will need to make some changes to make it fit my prposes. Does any other library come to mind for extracting text from html?

w3m -dump <url>

lynx has a similar function

Yeah, something like that will be the last way out - I'd prefer not having to fork() for such a simple operation. (I'll be indexing millions of documents). Maybe it's worth checking out what those two utilities use for the extraction.

/Per Jessen, Zürich

Per, If you have millions of documents to index/search, you're getting into my world. Indexing and searching is a core part of my day job and we sell that capability as a service. We use an extremely fast, but rather expensive engine that runs on Linux. But unless you have lots of money to spend ($100K+) and are willing to run RH, I won't describe it in detail but the speed is incredible. (~800GB/hr indexing speed has been measured at the vendor's lab. We have a smaller solution, but we see a couple hundred GB/hr routinely.) The hardest part is getting an i/o system fast enough to feed it. (ie. How do you load 800GB/hr on to a computer for indexing? 1 Gbit/lan is way too slow, same for usb / firewire / etc.. In the vendors lab I think they used a high-end NAS with 4x1Gbit ports bonded together to be the data source.) (Use private email if you want to know more. No need to bore everyone here.) Assuming that's way overkill, would you consider a low-cost commercial solution? DTsearch is definitely a market leader and it runs at reasonable speeds. For linux they only offer a library/engine I believe, not a full gui but that may work for you. I have no idea what they charge for the library/engine. http://www.dtsearch.com/PLF_engine_2.html We have DTsearch, but the Windows Desktop version, so I can't say much about the linux engine they sell. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Head of EDD Tape Extraction and Processing team Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer CNN/TruTV Aired Forensic Imaging Demo - http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/23/how-computer-evidence-gets-retriev... The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-programming+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-programming+help@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

16:02

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Greg Freemyer wrote:

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Yeah, something like that will be the last way out - I'd prefer not having to fork() for such a simple operation. (I'll be indexing millions of documents). Maybe it's worth checking out what those two utilities use for the extraction.

/Per Jessen, Zürich

Per,

If you have millions of documents to index/search, you're getting into my world.

Hi Greg - there's no real upper limit, but designwise I'm working on 50-60 million documents per index - I will have many indexes on different collections of documents.

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Indexing and searching is a core part of my day job and we sell that capability as a service. We use an extremely fast, but rather expensive engine that runs on Linux. But unless you have lots of money to spend ($100K+) and are willing to run RH, I won't describe it in detail but the speed is incredible. (~800GB/hr indexing speed has been measured at the vendor's lab. We have a smaller solution, but we see a couple hundred GB/hr routinely.)

I'm currently aiming at indexing up to 1million new documents per index per day, so about 10/sec on average. Later on, we will also be removing (de-indexing?) the same amount per index per day.

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Assuming that's way overkill, would you consider a low-cost commercial solution? DTsearch is definitely a market leader and it runs at reasonable speeds. For linux they only offer a library/engine I believe, not a full gui but that may work for you. I have no idea what they charge for the library/engine.

http://www.dtsearch.com/PLF_engine_2.html

For the time being we've pretty much decided to use xapian, but if that turns out to have significant performance-issues, products such as dtsearch could well come under consideration - thanks for the link. I stumbled over xapian more or less by accident, but gmane is using it for indexing mmillions of emails, which is exactly what I will be doing too. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-programming+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-programming+help@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

15:11

New subject: [opensuse-programming] extracting text from html

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

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I need to extract text from html for purposes of indexing - implementation language is C or C++. Sofar I've come across html2text which is written in C++ - it looks pretty good, but I will need to make some changes to make it fit my prposes. Does any other library come to mind for extracting text from html?

/Per Jessen, Zürich

One way I've seen to do text extraction in the windows world is to have a printer driver that extracts the text as comes in. (it is not a perfect process with pdfs sometimes because of the way pdfs print part of word, then a command, then more of the word, etc.) Are there linux equivalent text extracting printer drivers? Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-programming+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-programming+help@opensuse.org

justin finnerty

15:33

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I need to extract text from html for purposes of indexing - implementation language is C or C++

I would use a SAX parser that handles HTML (libxml2?). Then all you might need to do is handle the TEXT nodes. Cheers Justin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-programming+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-programming+help@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

15:50

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justin finnerty wrote:

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I need to extract text from html for purposes of indexing - implementation language is C or C++

I would use a SAX parser that handles HTML (libxml2?). Then all you might need to do is handle the TEXT nodes.

Something like that was indeed my first thought, but I'm pretty certain it would require the html to be well-formed, which is far from guaranteed :-( I also took a quick look at beautifulsoup, but I still need a C or C++ interface. Essentially I'm looking for something that will provide a function: int html2text( char *in, char *out ); It might be feasible or even easier to simply write something to strip out html tags, I'm still contemplating that. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-programming+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-programming+help@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

16:41

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Per Jessen wrote:

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justin finnerty wrote:

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I need to extract text from html for purposes of indexing - implementation language is C or C++

I would use a SAX parser that handles HTML (libxml2?). Then all you might need to do is handle the TEXT nodes.

Something like that was indeed my first thought, but I'm pretty certain it would require the html to be well-formed, which is far from guaranteed :-(

Hmm, http://www.xmlsoft.org/html/libxml-HTMLparser.html might just be useful: "this module implements an HTML 4.0 non-verifying parser with API compatible with the XML parser ones. It should be able to parse "real world" HTML, even if severely broken from a specification point of view." /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-programming+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-programming+help@opensuse.org

Thomas Hertweck

17:38

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We have used Apache Lucene for quite some time to index our online HTML manuals. Not sure, though, whether it would be suitable for the particular purpose mentioned in this email thread. Cheers, Th. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-programming+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-programming+help@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

29 May 29 May

08:39

New subject: [opensuse-programming] extracting text from html

Per Jessen wrote:

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Per Jessen wrote:

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http://www.xmlsoft.org/html/libxml-HTMLparser.html

might just be useful:

"this module implements an HTML 4.0 non-verifying parser with API compatible with the XML parser ones. It should be able to parse "real world" HTML, even if severely broken from a specification point of view."

A quick update for those who might be following this thread - I got this to work fairly quickly with libxml. My documents are read from disk, the html is parsed and I then traverse the tree looking for text-elements. I collect the text and feed it to xapian, then I start the next document. I have some work left on getting a status-listing (documents processed, what was indexed etc) as well as getting errors returned properly, but I think this is the right way. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-programming+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-programming+help@opensuse.org

Luna Rodríguez, Raúl

25 May 25 May

16:08

Hello: I do not work normally in Linux, but I run into the same problem time ago and I resolve building a remover in Basic. It works very well filtering html from word (word is one of most dirties html creators). The source code is below, if you want. It is pretty simple to convert it to C++. The problem is that my function doesn't filter well when you write "<", ">" as text of the document: the normal way is to write "<", ">" instead. Greetings. ---------------------------------------------------- ' Strips text from an html text. ' Filter all the HTML code from the in parameter, with the goal ' of presenting only plain text. ' WARNING. The function will assume a an HTML Tag all expressions ' that will start by '<' and ends with '>'. In other words, an expression ' like: ' .... blah, blah 3 < 5 and 5 > 9, it is know that ...." ' ' it will be filtered as: ' ' .... blah, blah 3 9, it is know that ...." Public Function stripHTML_Re(ByVal cIn As String) As String Dim cOut As String Dim nFoundlt As Long ' encontrado < Dim nFoundgt As Long ' encontrado > Dim nCurrent As Long nFoundlt = 0 nFoundgt = 0 nCurrent = 1 cOut = "" Do While nCurrent <= Len(cIn) If Mid(cIn, nCurrent, 1) = "<" Then ' si es el segundo "<" que encontramos, ' copiamos el primero a la salida If nFoundlt <> 0 Then cOut = cOut + Mid(cIn, nFoundlt, nCurrent - nFoundlt) End If nFoundlt = nCurrent End If If Mid(cIn, nCurrent, 1) = ">" And nFoundlt > 0 Then nFoundgt = nCurrent End If If nFoundlt = 0 And nFoundgt = 0 Then cOut = cOut + Mid(cIn, nCurrent, 1) End If If nFoundlt <> 0 And nFoundgt <> 0 Then nCurrent = nFoundgt nFoundlt = 0 nFoundgt = 0 End If nCurrent = nCurrent + 1 Loop ' reemplazamos los caracteres tipo por ' su equivalente en el juego de caracteres de windows Dim aHtmlCh() As String Dim nCount As Long Dim cTemp As String aHtmlCh = ArrayCaracteres For nCount = LBound(aHtmlCh) To UBound(aHtmlCh) cOut = Replace(cOut, aHtmlCh(nCount, 0), aHtmlCh(nCount, 1)) ' algunos editores de HTML en lugar de ponen ' se tiene en cuenta este caso también cTemp = Replace(aHtmlCh(nCount, 0), ";", "") cOut = Replace(cOut, cTemp, aHtmlCh(nCount, 1)) Next stripHTML_Re = cOut End Function ' return an array with the correspondence between ' the HTML entities ( ) and the corresponding ' "real" character " " Private Function ArrayCaracteres() As String() Static aHtmlCh(119, 1) As String If IsEmpty(aHtmlCh(0, 0)) Or aHtmlCh(0, 0) = "" Then aHtmlCh(0, 0) = "!" aHtmlCh(1, 0) = "#" aHtmlCh(2, 0) = "$" aHtmlCh(3, 0) = "%" aHtmlCh(4, 0) = "&" aHtmlCh(5, 0) = """ aHtmlCh(6, 0) = "(" aHtmlCh(7, 0) = ")" aHtmlCh(8, 0) = "*" aHtmlCh(9, 0) = "+" aHtmlCh(10, 0) = "," aHtmlCh(11, 0) = "‐" aHtmlCh(12, 0) = "." aHtmlCh(13, 0) = "/" aHtmlCh(14, 0) = ":" aHtmlCh(15, 0) = ";" aHtmlCh(16, 0) = "<" aHtmlCh(17, 0) = "=" aHtmlCh(18, 0) = ">" aHtmlCh(19, 0) = "?" aHtmlCh(20, 0) = "@" aHtmlCh(21, 0) = "[" aHtmlCh(22, 0) = "\" aHtmlCh(23, 0) = "]" aHtmlCh(24, 0) = "ˆ" aHtmlCh(25, 0) = "_" aHtmlCh(26, 0) = "`" aHtmlCh(27, 0) = "{" aHtmlCh(28, 0) = "|" aHtmlCh(29, 0) = "}" aHtmlCh(30, 0) = "˜" aHtmlCh(31, 0) = " " aHtmlCh(32, 0) = "¡" aHtmlCh(33, 0) = "¢" aHtmlCh(34, 0) = "£" aHtmlCh(35, 0) = "¤" aHtmlCh(36, 0) = "¥" aHtmlCh(37, 0) = "¦" aHtmlCh(38, 0) = "§" aHtmlCh(39, 0) = "¨" aHtmlCh(40, 0) = "©" aHtmlCh(41, 0) = "ª" aHtmlCh(42, 0) = "«" aHtmlCh(43, 0) = "¬" aHtmlCh(44, 0) = "" aHtmlCh(45, 0) = "®" aHtmlCh(46, 0) = "¯" aHtmlCh(47, 0) = "°" aHtmlCh(48, 0) = "±" aHtmlCh(49, 0) = "²" aHtmlCh(50, 0) = "³" aHtmlCh(51, 0) = "´" aHtmlCh(52, 0) = "µ" aHtmlCh(53, 0) = "¶" aHtmlCh(54, 0) = "·" aHtmlCh(55, 0) = "¸" aHtmlCh(56, 0) = "¹" aHtmlCh(57, 0) = "º" aHtmlCh(58, 0) = "»" aHtmlCh(59, 0) = "&fr;" aHtmlCh(60, 0) = "&fr;" aHtmlCh(61, 0) = "&fr;" aHtmlCh(62, 0) = "¿" aHtmlCh(63, 0) = "À" aHtmlCh(64, 0) = "Á" aHtmlCh(65, 0) = "Â" aHtmlCh(66, 0) = "Ã" aHtmlCh(67, 0) = "Ä" aHtmlCh(68, 0) = "Å" aHtmlCh(69, 0) = "Æ" aHtmlCh(70, 0) = "&il;" aHtmlCh(71, 0) = "È" aHtmlCh(72, 0) = "É" aHtmlCh(73, 0) = "Ê" aHtmlCh(74, 0) = "Ë" aHtmlCh(75, 0) = "Ì" aHtmlCh(76, 0) = "Í" aHtmlCh(77, 0) = "Î" aHtmlCh(78, 0) = "Ï" aHtmlCh(79, 0) = "Ð" aHtmlCh(80, 0) = "Ñ" aHtmlCh(81, 0) = "Ò" aHtmlCh(82, 0) = "Ó" aHtmlCh(83, 0) = "Ô" aHtmlCh(84, 0) = "Õ" aHtmlCh(85, 0) = "Ö" aHtmlCh(86, 0) = "×" aHtmlCh(87, 0) = "Ø" aHtmlCh(88, 0) = "Ù" aHtmlCh(89, 0) = "Ú" aHtmlCh(90, 0) = "Û" aHtmlCh(91, 0) = "Ü" aHtmlCh(92, 0) = "Ý" aHtmlCh(93, 0) = "Þ" aHtmlCh(94, 0) = "ß" aHtmlCh(95, 0) = "à" aHtmlCh(96, 0) = "á" aHtmlCh(97, 0) = "â" aHtmlCh(98, 0) = "ã" aHtmlCh(99, 0) = "ä" aHtmlCh(100, 0) = "è" aHtmlCh(101, 0) = "é" aHtmlCh(102, 0) = "ê" aHtmlCh(103, 0) = "&etilde;" aHtmlCh(104, 0) = "ë" aHtmlCh(105, 0) = "ì" aHtmlCh(106, 0) = "í" aHtmlCh(107, 0) = "î" aHtmlCh(108, 0) = "ĩ" aHtmlCh(109, 0) = "ï" aHtmlCh(110, 0) = "ò" aHtmlCh(111, 0) = "ó" aHtmlCh(112, 0) = "ô" aHtmlCh(113, 0) = "õ" aHtmlCh(114, 0) = "ö" aHtmlCh(115, 0) = "ù" aHtmlCh(116, 0) = "ú" aHtmlCh(117, 0) = "û" aHtmlCh(118, 0) = "ũ" aHtmlCh(119, 0) = "ü" aHtmlCh(0, 1) = "¡" aHtmlCh(1, 1) = "º" aHtmlCh(2, 1) = "$" aHtmlCh(3, 1) = "%" aHtmlCh(4, 1) = "&" aHtmlCh(5, 1) = """" aHtmlCh(6, 1) = "(" aHtmlCh(7, 1) = ")" aHtmlCh(8, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(9, 1) = "+" aHtmlCh(10, 1) = "," aHtmlCh(11, 1) = "-" aHtmlCh(12, 1) = "." aHtmlCh(13, 1) = "Sol" aHtmlCh(14, 1) = "Colon" aHtmlCh(15, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(16, 1) = "<" aHtmlCh(17, 1) = "=" aHtmlCh(18, 1) = ">" aHtmlCh(19, 1) = "?" aHtmlCh(20, 1) = "," aHtmlCh(21, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(22, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(23, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(24, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(25, 1) = "_" aHtmlCh(26, 1) = "'" aHtmlCh(27, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(28, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(29, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(30, 1) = "'" aHtmlCh(31, 1) = " " aHtmlCh(32, 1) = "¡" aHtmlCh(33, 1) = "cent" aHtmlCh(34, 1) = "L" aHtmlCh(35, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(36, 1) = "Y" aHtmlCh(37, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(38, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(39, 1) = "." aHtmlCh(40, 1) = "(c)" aHtmlCh(41, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(42, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(43, 1) = "!" aHtmlCh(44, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(45, 1) = "(r)" aHtmlCh(46, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(47, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(48, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(49, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(50, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(51, 1) = "á" aHtmlCh(52, 1) = "u" aHtmlCh(53, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(54, 1) = "·" aHtmlCh(55, 1) = "ç" aHtmlCh(56, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(57, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(58, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(59, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(60, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(61, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(62, 1) = "¿" aHtmlCh(63, 1) = "È" aHtmlCh(64, 1) = "Á" aHtmlCh(65, 1) = "Ä" aHtmlCh(66, 1) = "Á" aHtmlCh(67, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(68, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(69, 1) = "AE" aHtmlCh(70, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(71, 1) = "È" aHtmlCh(72, 1) = "É" aHtmlCh(73, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(74, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(75, 1) = "Ì" aHtmlCh(76, 1) = "Í" aHtmlCh(77, 1) = "Î" aHtmlCh(78, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(79, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(80, 1) = "N'" aHtmlCh(81, 1) = "Ò" aHtmlCh(82, 1) = "Ó" aHtmlCh(83, 1) = "Ô" aHtmlCh(84, 1) = "O'" aHtmlCh(85, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(86, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(87, 1) = "O/" aHtmlCh(88, 1) = "Ù" aHtmlCh(89, 1) = "Ú" aHtmlCh(90, 1) = "Û" aHtmlCh(91, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(92, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(93, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(94, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(95, 1) = "à" aHtmlCh(96, 1) = "á" aHtmlCh(97, 1) = "â" aHtmlCh(98, 1) = "a'" aHtmlCh(99, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(100, 1) = "è" aHtmlCh(101, 1) = "é" aHtmlCh(102, 1) = "ê" aHtmlCh(103, 1) = "e'" aHtmlCh(104, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(105, 1) = "ì" aHtmlCh(106, 1) = "í" aHtmlCh(107, 1) = "î" aHtmlCh(108, 1) = "i'" aHtmlCh(109, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(110, 1) = "ò" aHtmlCh(111, 1) = "ó" aHtmlCh(112, 1) = "ô" aHtmlCh(113, 1) = "o'" aHtmlCh(114, 1) = "*" aHtmlCh(115, 1) = "ù" aHtmlCh(116, 1) = "ú" aHtmlCh(117, 1) = "û" aHtmlCh(118, 1) = "u'" aHtmlCh(119, 1) = "*" End If ArrayCaracteres = aHtmlCh End Function ---------------------------------------------------- -----Mensaje original----- De: Per Jessen [mailto:per@computer.org] Enviado el: martes, 25 de mayo de 2010 16:48 Para: opensuse-programming@opensuse.org Asunto: [opensuse-programming] extracting text from html I need to extract text from html for purposes of indexing - implementation language is C or C++. Sofar I've come across html2text which is written in C++ - it looks pretty good, but I will need to make some changes to make it fit my prposes. Does any other library come to mind for extracting text from html? /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-programming+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-programming+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-programming+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-programming+help@opensuse.org

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