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August 2017

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[opensuse-programming] Hints on outdated versions of programming tools
by franz-joseph.barthold＠tu-dortmund.de 28 Aug '17

28 Aug '17

Thanks a lot for all comments. I fully agree with them as I am familiar with the openSUSE concepts. I am using and appreciating this distribution from its early days back in 1996. Nevertheless, my intention is a little different as it has been understood. I like to explain it in detail and more carefully. First. I am choosing the list opensuse-programming(a)opensuse.org to submit my ideas due to its official character, i.e. it is mentioned on https:// lists.opensuse.org/ as an official way to get support, see also https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Support. Thus, I assume that this list is managed by openSUSE and that the decision makers of openSUSE are informed (even in some filtered form and delayed in time) about the hints and requests. Second. No software and no distribution is 100% perfect. Thus, all hints should be welcome. Even if once personal viewpoint is not mainstream. Only those spotlight on some rarely investigated branches of software and distribution. Third. I do not advocate to keep track of all latest/greatest versions or even nightly builds. But some software, which is officially distributed via download.opensuse.org/distribution or download.opensuse.org/repository, is simply outdated. I do not blame somebody for this fact but a simple hint should be allowed. Forth. How do I define outdated? I will explain it on an example, i.e. BLAS and LAPACK. Package search for Lapack indicates, that it is officially supported in all versions (Leap 42.3 and tumbleweed) in Version 3.5.0 and the repos for science and Education also contain this version. The official Release History of Lapack see http://www.netlib.org/lapack/#_release_history, indicates, that this version 3.5.0 dates from November 19, 2013 naming other updates up to the current version 3.7.1 as of June 25, 2017. Once some software is chosen to be distributed officially, it should be fairly current. And any new distribution (like openSUSE Leap 42.3) should take the chance to update the packages. I my opinion, openSUSE missed to update BLAS and LAPACK. And the openSUSE team should update in their own interest. As said before, this often happens (not only in case of openSUSE) and nobody can keep fully track of all novel versions. Sometimes, a simple hint may help. Fifth. What do I expect? I just like to get an answer of either kind: a) Thank you for the hint. We will update the version. b.) Thank you for the hint. An official update is not possible due to the following reason .... Please perform a locate update as follows ... That is the way, I like to use this list and to get some support from openSUSE as indicated on https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Support. Once again, I do not blame anybody. It is simply a hint to an improvement of the otherwise great distribution. Wichtiger Hinweis: Die Information in dieser E-Mail ist vertraulich. Sie ist ausschließlich für den Adressaten bestimmt. Sollten Sie nicht der für diese E-Mail bestimmte Adressat sein, unterrichten Sie bitte den Absender und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Vielen Dank. Unbeschadet der Korrespondenz per E-Mail, sind unsere Erklärungen ausschließlich final rechtsverbindlich, wenn sie in herkömmlicher Schriftform (mit eigenhändiger Unterschrift) oder durch Übermittlung eines solchen Schriftstücks per Telefax erfolgen. Important note: The information included in this e-mail is confidential. It is solely intended for the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail please contact the sender and delete this message. Thank you. Without prejudice of e-mail correspondence, our statements are only legally binding when they are made in the conventional written form (with personal signature) or when such documents are sent by fax. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-programming+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-programming+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-programming] Hints on outdated versions of programming tools
by Prof. Dr.-Ing. Franz-Joseph Barthold 28 Aug '17

28 Aug '17

Dear maintainers, I recently installed openSUSE Leap 42.3 on a laptop and customized the software development infrastructure on both laptop and on a HPC server. I observed some outdated packages and other minor inconsistencies. The current versions are mentioned in braces. In general, as far as I would recommend it, a recent software stack should be available without relying on some home: repo. 1. make (4.2.1) 4.0-7.15 on openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Oss (version 5 years old) There is one recent version (4.2.1) available at home:Ledest The same for bison (2.7-11.15 vs. 3.0.4-0.45) 2. doxygen (1.8.13) doxygen and doxywizad (1.8.11) are distributed. In devel:tools, doxygen is current (1.8.13), but the accompanying doxywizard is only (1.8.11). Thus, this particular tool chain is broken. 3. midnight commander (4.8.19) Distribution (4.1.15), but only in home:Ximi1970 the current version (4.19) Some more observations might come if the maintainers feel this kind of feedback as useful. Best regards for fixing Wichtiger Hinweis: Die Information in dieser E-Mail ist vertraulich. Sie ist ausschließlich für den Adressaten bestimmt. Sollten Sie nicht der für diese E-Mail bestimmte Adressat sein, unterrichten Sie bitte den Absender und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Vielen Dank. Unbeschadet der Korrespondenz per E-Mail, sind unsere Erklärungen ausschließlich final rechtsverbindlich, wenn sie in herkömmlicher Schriftform (mit eigenhändiger Unterschrift) oder durch Übermittlung eines solchen Schriftstücks per Telefax erfolgen. Important note: The information included in this e-mail is confidential. It is solely intended for the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail please contact the sender and delete this message. Thank you. Without prejudice of e-mail correspondence, our statements are only legally binding when they are made in the conventional written form (with personal signature) or when such documents are sent by fax. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-programming+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-programming+owner(a)opensuse.org

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