Greetings, Have been trying for three days now to get the resolution on my 17" Apple Studio Display set properly under X11 and SUSE 10. However, no matter what I do, SUSE/SAX2 seem to take control of my settings and alter them according to what it thinks best. Have tried running Sax2 with the many different switches documented in the man pages, editing the xorg.conf on my own inserting the proper drivers and modelines, and copying working xorg.conf from prior distributions. Nothing works. The best I can get is a 1028x768@60Hz. When I try for the resolution I want (and which has worked fine under YDL, Debian, and Gentoo)--1280x1024@75, that setting is trumped somewhere and I end up with the resolution but at the wrong refresh rate, which results in a 2" black border surrounding the X11 display. How can I tell Sax2 or SUSE to back off and accept the settings that I want, that are appropriate for my monitor, and that have worked fine under other Linux distros? I'd be grateful for your suggestions or pointers. Thanks. Joe -------------------------------------------- http://YDL.net - The online community for Yellow Dog Linux users
On Friday 14 October 2005 09:32 am, jdesalvo@ydl.net wrote:
Greetings,
Have been trying for three days now to get the resolution on my 17" Apple Studio Display set properly under X11 and SUSE 10. However, no matter what I do, SUSE/SAX2 seem to take control of my settings and alter them according to what it thinks best.
Have tried running Sax2 with the many different switches documented in the man pages, editing the xorg.conf on my own inserting the proper drivers and modelines, and copying working xorg.conf from prior distributions. Nothing works. The best I can get is a 1028x768@60Hz.
When I try for the resolution I want (and which has worked fine under YDL, Debian, and Gentoo)--1280x1024@75, that setting is trumped somewhere and I end up with the resolution but at the wrong refresh rate, which results in a 2" black border surrounding the X11 display.
How can I tell Sax2 or SUSE to back off and accept the settings that I want, that are appropriate for my monitor, and that have worked fine under other Linux distros?
I'd be grateful for your suggestions or pointers. Thanks.
Joe
Joe, After starting sax2 to change the settings, did you find your monitor in the database or just choose one closest to yours? If your particular model is not in the database, that's ok, we can walk you through adding it later. For now, let's just see if we can get you going. Choose one of the Apple monitors closest to yours then check the Vertical & Horizontal scan rates to see how closely they match the specs on yours. If they are not right, then change them to match. Once that's done, you should be able to select the 1280x1024 setting that will fall within your specs ok. Be sure to select other sizes also, like the 1024x768, 800x600 & 640x480, so some of the games will find a screen they need. Check all other settings, like graphics card, mouse, keyboard and 3D if you want it on. Now finalize, test, be sure to test, save and quit. That should get you there. Let us know if your monitor is not listed and once you get going, we'll go through adding yours to the database. Lee
Quoting BandiPat
On Friday 14 October 2005 09:32 am, jdesalvo@ydl.net wrote:
Greetings,
Have been trying for three days now to get the resolution on my 17" Apple Studio Display set properly under X11 and SUSE 10.
Joe, After starting sax2 to change the settings, did you find your monitor in the database or just choose one closest to yours? If your particular model is not in the database, that's ok, we can walk you through adding it later. For now, let's just see if we can get you going. Choose one of the Apple monitors closest to yours then check the Vertical & Horizontal scan rates to see how closely they match the specs on yours. If they are not right, then change them to match. Once that's done, you should be able to select the 1280x1024 setting that will fall within your specs ok. Be sure to select other sizes also, like the
1024x768, 800x600 & 640x480, so some of the games will find a screen they need.
Check all other settings, like graphics card, mouse, keyboard and 3D if you want it on. Now finalize, test, be sure to test, save and quit. That should get you there. Let us know if your monitor is not listed and once you get going, we'll go through adding yours to the database.
Lee
Lee, Thanks for your prompt reply. I should clarify that the Studio Display is an old CRT. For a couple of years Apple used the name Studio Display when also referring to LCD displays. Anyway... If memory serves, Sax2 selected the monitor. I tried changing the selection on my own a couple of times from APP to APPLE in the manufacturer list and to Studio Display, but that didn't seem to have an effect. And I think the Studio Display in the monitor list might refer to the LCD version. I tried changing the refresh rates, but when hitting the "Test" button (to test the display) the "test" always came back with a different scan rate. Baffling. For example, I'd select or indicate 75Hz, run Test, and the test screen would have 84Hz or some such setting. WTF? I've tried changing some of the other video settings or options, but frankly I don't understand half of them and there is no help for me to read there. The video card is AGP ATY Radeon 128 w/ 16M of video ram--the original one shipped with this G4 Sawtooth, and I've tried both the r128 driver and the fbdev driver. I'm not at my home machine now so I can't test some of the other things you suggest--the mouse and keyboard appear to function fine-- but will this evening. In the mean time, if you have additional tips/suggestions for me to try, I'd be very grateful. Thanks again for the help. Joe -------------------------------------------- http://YDL.net - The online community for Yellow Dog Linux users
-----Original Message----- From: jdesalvo@ydl.net
If memory serves, Sax2 selected the monitor. I tried changing the selection on my own a couple of times from APP to APPLE in the manufacturer list and to Studio Display, but that didn't seem to have an effect. And I think the Studio Display in the monitor list might refer to the LCD version. I tried changing the refresh rates, but when hitting the "Test" button (to test the display) the "test" always came back with a different scan rate. Baffling. For example, I'd select or indicate 75Hz, run Test, and the test screen would have 84Hz or some such setting. WTF?
I've tried changing some of the other video settings or options, but frankly I don't understand half of them and there is no help for me to read there. The video card is AGP ATY Radeon 128 w/ 16M of video ram--the original one shipped with this G4 Sawtooth, and I've tried both the r128 driver and the fbdev driver.
I was unable to get Sax2 to work properly on my PM7500. The only way it would work would be to start it and save the suggested settings. If I tried to properly setup my Multiple Scan 20 Display to no avail. However, it seems to work ok, so I left it at that. It worked ok on my Beige G3, which has the ATI Rage II on it...... __________________________________________________________________ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/
On Friday 14 October 2005 12:08 pm, jdesalvo@ydl.net wrote: [...]
Lee,
Thanks for your prompt reply. I should clarify that the Studio Display is an old CRT. For a couple of years Apple used the name Studio Display when also referring to LCD displays. Anyway...
If memory serves, Sax2 selected the monitor. I tried changing the selection on my own a couple of times from APP to APPLE in the manufacturer list and to Studio Display, but that didn't seem to have an effect. And I think the Studio Display in the monitor list might refer to the LCD version. I tried changing the refresh rates, but when hitting the "Test" button (to test the display) the "test" always came back with a different scan rate. Baffling. For example, I'd select or indicate 75Hz, run Test, and the test screen would have 84Hz or some such setting. WTF? [...] Thanks again for the help.
Joe --------------------------------------------
Ok, Joe, first of all only send one email to the list please. Since I get that mail hitting the "reply all" or a copy to me is unnecessary. Ok, sounds like your monitor is not feeding a signal back to your video card for it to be properly recognized. I can assume it sees your graphics card correctly? If so, that's a good first step. Since you are choosing a Studio display, which is probably a LCD in the list, then it's not going to set correctly even when you change the H & V scan rates. You need to choose a CRT type from the list that as closely matches your specs as possible. You can then adjust the settings as necessary before testing. Again, I will assume you are sure this video card supports screens that large? You are not trying to run 24 bit that large are you? You should stick with 16bit or check the specs for that card to be sure. good luck Lee
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